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PART ONE.
Jesus was promised a throne to rule upon.
Luke 1:31-32
> And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.
> He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest, and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David.David's throne is the throne God has promised to His Son.
David's throne.
and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David.David's throne was never in heaven, but on earth, and it was found within a kingdom here on earth.
2 Chronicles 13:8 And now ye think to withstand the kingdom of the LORD in the hand of the sons of David; and ye be a great multitude, and there are with you golden calves, which Jeroboam made you for gods.
The Lords kingdom in the hands of men who did sit on this throne also, like Solomon did too…
1 Chronicles 29:23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of the LORD as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israel obeyed him.
Whose throne?
1 Chronicles 29:23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of the LORD as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israel obeyed him.
The Lords throne.
David and Solomon sat on the Lords throne.
This is the throne Jesus was promised.
Davids throne where Solomon sat too.
The Lords throne.
And on this throne within this kingdom…
Isaiah 16:5
And in mercy shall the throne be established, and He shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.In the tabernacle of David, where David once sat in the kingdom of the Lord on the Lords throne in Jerusalem.
Luke 1:33 > And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever, and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
The house of Jacob was there too.
The soles of their feet trod those lands also, the very same ground the Lord Himself will one day again soon tread upon…Ezekiel 43:7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.
Because when the Lord returns to rule from Jerusalem, He will never ever again leave Israel where the seat of his power will be…
1 Chronicles 17:9-14
> Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,> And since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel. Moreover I will subdue all thine enemies. Furthermore I tell thee that the LORD will build thee an house.
> And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom.
> He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.
> I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee:
> But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore.
God disguises often His mysteries in plain sight, in dualities, because this was on the surface about David's reign & Solomon's reign…
1 Chronicles 22:9-10
> Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest, and i will give him rest from all his enemies round about, for his name shall be Solomon, and i will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.
> He shall build an house for my name, and he shall be my son, and i will be his father, and i will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.but search deeper in and we realise it is about Jesus too, the true message God is secretly conveying…remember…Solomon had the 10 tribes of Israel rent from his rule by Gods command and is now dead, so it is impossible for him to fulfill this prophecy, only another can now…Jesus.
Acts 2:30-35
> Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;> He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
> This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
> Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
> For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
> Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Again, Christ will sit on Davids throne.
At the moment Christ sits in his fathers throne room in heaven.
Davids throne was never in heaven, neither did the souls of Davids feet ever walk there in heaven.
But they walked in Jerusalem on earth.
This is where the kingdom will be restored to Israel, where Davids throne once was, where the Lord will sit one day soon, when he comes to set up his kingdom which will never end.Daniel 2:44-45
> And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.> Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
When exactly?
Matthew 25:31
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:The 2nd coming.
From here will the resurrected saints begin their reign also…ruling over flesh JewsMatthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Because the Lord is going to choose Israel again, Israel has to be in a state of rejection, as they are today, for to be needing to be chosen again, one must be unchosen first…like they were when they rejected Christ, God likewise rejected them…
Isaiah 14:1
For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.And this kingdom will increase and spread
Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government
and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.This is when Jesus will be glorified on the earth.
Jesus was already glorified in heaven (rev ch5) and received his heavenly inheritance by the will of the Father (Hebrews), but of his earthly inheritance in the world, he has not yet received directly, nor has he been officially glorified on earth yet either.
Here is part of that glorification to be fulfilled…2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
When will he be glorified?
“In that day”
What day?
“When he shall COME”
That day…
The 2nd coming period..But first the kingdom needs to be cleaned out before being restored…
Matthew 13:41
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;At the moment, the place where his kingdom shall be, within those borders and in those lands, those lands the kingdom area will cover (hence, “His kingdom”), evil men and nations dwell.
The kingdom will be restored to Israel after this cleaning up, and purging out…
And they will be gathered once again and placed in their land and never again will they be removed.end part 1
PART 2
And they (Israel) will be gathered once again and placed in their land and never again will they be removed.
Now before this gathering of flesh Israel begins, resurrected spirit saints will have duties to perform.
Don't forget, this will be taking place after the wrath and the total destruction of Babylon the great and her armies.The resurrected saints are already with Christ, He already gathered them first in the clouds at His coming, the Jews (on a national level) come to Christ last.
One can speculate on the many tasks the resurrected saints will be appointed, but some tasks we can be sure of through scripture.One task has to do with all of this group:
Revelation 6:16-17
>And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens, and in the rocks of the mountains,>And said unto the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb.
Here is the example:
Psalm 149:5-9
>Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.> Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two edged sword in their hand;
> To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
> To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
> To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.
Notice no armies are mentioned for the saints to deal with?
That's because Christ destroyed all 200 million of them in Megiddo at His coming.We also know that the resurrected saints will be teaching the flesh Jews about Christ and accompanying & advising them wheresoever they sojourn.
This doesn't mean that the resurrected saints will always be visible when accompanying their human brethren, as this scripture implies:Isaiah 30:20
And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:One could say, no, that just means that the teachers wont be in a corner anymore (out of mind out of sight), and that they will take heed and obey the teachings, hence they will 'see'.
Well, on the surface one could sympathise with that argument, however when we read on, it gets a little clearer…just a small example:
Isaiah 30:21
And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.They will hear a word behind them, that is, a voice.
Whose voice?
Who is following them?
Why, the resurrected saints, their teachers.
Imagine a human teacher following you wherever you went, bet you'd 'accidently lose him' at the first opportunity, not so if it were an angel (resurrected saint)…Regardless, we continue on…
Now the Christians were taken up to Christ in the clouds at His coming.
They didn't have to catch a plane to the clouds, or travel to a departure point, or sail over to Israel, or walk miles and miles, or go horseback or ride camels or donkeys, they were all of them, just taken from where they stood or lay or were buried, in the blink of an eye were they taken to Christ.So what is this then? :
to be continued…
Isaiah ch66:
15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.So the Lords coming will be heralded by an attack, as we see in revelation ch19, Jesus comes with His heavenly army for war.
16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
All flesh, that means everybody, remember the mark of the beast…all flesh (except those following Christ) will have this mark by this stage, this group is being spoken of…and the wrath of God (trumps & vials) will affect every person on the planet who has the mark, this is the pleading, like how God pleaded often with Israel with sword and pestilence…same concept.
And the sword (the war) is aimed at….armies.17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Remember we are told to eat Christs flesh, well look at the flesh this group is eating, it is not Christs flesh, but strange flesh, this would be about the shepherds and followers of many faiths, and the proud and arrogant ones amongst them (not all of them will be proud/arrogant, many will be just deceived, but their leaders will be proud for sure)
18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
See His GLORY…all nations and tongues will he gathered.
How will He gather all peoples to witness His Glory?
It can not be the sign of His coming in the sky, that light which every eye shall see, because they don't get gathered, they all see the sign from their neighbourhoods/countries/backyards etc etc, no this is specific, a gathering of all peoples to witness something one has to be gathered to, someplace, for to see.Can all of mankind be literally gathered in one spot?
Or does He mean a percentage of mankind from every nation will be gathered…maybe something like 200 million of them perhaps?
We need more information before discerning what is going on here, so we read on…19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.
Now we can understand better. Remember, these are those gathered to witness His glory, and look what is happening to them…something is happening that causes them to seek to escape…
one usually seeks to escape something that is unpleasant…like war perhaps?Now look where they escape to, and what they do when they get there…they declare His glory!!
Seeing they must declare what they have seen, then those being declared to, did not see it, so then, they were not there, thus, not all men were gathered there to see this glory after all.
Now we can be sure then that a percentage of peoples from all nations will be gathered by God, thus all nations will be represented in this gathering, and something happens to that gathering where they seek to escape from…yet only some of them escape, which God is letting them escape for a purpose…to declare his GLORY
We should have worked it out by now yes…the armies of Armageddon gathered in Megiddo.
Again for clarity now…
Isaiah ch66:
15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.So God allows a percentage of them to escape to declare His glory amongst the nations…remember, by the time these witnesses get back to their lands to declare His Glory, Babylon the great will be destroyed.
That means no more phones, men will need to declare it personally, no more TV, men will need to declare it personally, no more postal agencies to send letters through, men will need to declare it personally etc etc.Now look what happens after ARMAGEDDON…
But first, Imagine the survivors of the heathen hearing that Jesus has come, how He destroyed all the armies of man, and is right now in Jerusalem, that He is real after all, and we attacked His land!!
What could they possibly do to entreat this Jesus?
Then an idea will come, the only possible present these heathen could provide…to be continued…
Good post Devo:
Ezekiel 21:25 And thou, profane wicked prince *OF ISRAEL*, whose day is come, **WHEN INIQUITY SHALL HAVE AN END**,
Ezekiel 21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: **exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high**.
Ezekiel 21:27 I will *OVERTURN, OVERTURN, OVERTURN*, IT: **and it shall be no more**, until *HE* *COME* whose right it is; and *I WILL GIVE IT HIM*.
3X OVERTURN; **THEN HE** WILL SIT IN HIS THRONE.
NOT BEFORE BABYLON IS OVERTURNED FOR THE 3RD TIME.
wakeup.
Hey Guys,
As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDevolution,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
PART 3Now that we've seen the coming in the previous scriptures, remember I said this:
Now the Christians were taken up to Christ in the clouds at His coming.
They didn't have to catch a plane to the clouds, or travel to a departure point, or sail over to Israel, or walk miles and miles, or go horseback or ride camels or donkeys, they were all of them, just taken from where they stood or lay or were buried, in the blink of an eye were they taken to Christ….So what is this then? :Remember, this is after Armageddon…
20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.
There is the answer…after Armageddon, all the nations, meaning the survivors of all nationalities, will BRING Israelites to Jerusalem as a peace offering!!
What else could they possibly offer?
Now what should all this tell us?
It tells us that this group was NOT TAKEN UP IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET CHRIST AT HIS COMING…so they were NOT Christians when Christ returned!!
But they are being gathered to Christ using ANIMALS to transport them..so they are STILL FLESH!!
This should also prove that the earth is NOT melted down at the coming, but those prophecies are still future.
Because here we see HEATHEN still alive even after Armageddon!!This also tells us that Christ is going to gather this other group, who did not believe on Him, to the land of Israel, who are FLESH, to meet the Lord and SERVE Him in Jerusalem!!
And this group are His brethren!!…Israelites!!Remember, the first will be last and the last will be first?
Well the last to hear & accept Gods word were the Gentiles, and they embraced Christ and therefore were gathered first, in the clouds…Last these Israelites will accept Christ, who were first to hear God in the world, but rejected His Son, so the Gentiles came in first instead.
But now their (Israel's) gathering in Christ will be fulfilled as promised through the prophets.
But they are not changed into spirit yet like the Christians were, because no man is changed into spirit until after the Holy Spirit has grafted to their mortal souls as Romans 8:11 declares.
This is why flesh must carry on for another 1000 years…it is the grafting back into the olive tree by that Holy Spirit placed within men that is taking place here.
They need to go through the same growth experiences we did, and after they finish their days on earth, they too will become spirit like the Christians before them.
Remember…These are those who did not labour all day in the heat thereof, yet they are being paid by Christ nevertheless…so don't grumble that Israel WILL get mercy, be glad instead, Christ ordained it this way…
Please don't fall victim to the curse and hate this idea of mercy on Israel, purge that out from your hearts, because it in no way threatens your salvation having mercy shown to Israel…whom God has blinded for this very purpose…
So they, Israel, all Israel, will finally know that Jesus IS Lord.
And in their shame they will bow down to the ground before Him, and He WILL accept them, and turn their shame to glory and make them a praise within the earth before all the heathen wheresoever they go.
And they will be famous in every land they visit, something that has never happened before.This is the Lords will, this will be done whether Christians like it or not.
Can one be a true Christian and not like this plan?
MERCY on Israel?
To whom the oracles of God were first given?Mercy means undeserved grace.
Should we deny this grace shown to us when we were unbelievers to be denied upon others besides?
God forbid!!
Or is it because it is Israel that this mercy is being extended to?
Israel?
Anyone else but Israel maybe?
Isn't this part of that curse?
Hate for Israel?Is there hate for Israel in our hearts too?
Is that why so many fight against this message?
I sincerely hope not brothers and sisters.
Please let it not be so amongst you…
As it is in the hearts of Christs enemies…
That Israel will be shown mercy and the kingdom restored to them.May the Lord come speedily, Amen.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,23:53) Hey Guys, As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi guys.EdJ cant seem to understand that
Christ is siting next to his father UNTILL ALL HIS ENEMIES ARE PUT UNDER HIS FEET.
That would be when he comes in the clouds
with a sword in his mouth.
Then God will give him his crown to rule in his own throne.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,23:53) Hey Guys, As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thanks Ed,Jesus is giving an example.
He is promising those who overcome that they will get to sit down with Him in His throne, obviously during the millennium, to have power in His Royal pavilion, just as He has power whilst sitting in His Fathers throne room.
He is showing a comparison.God did promise Christ a kingdom, with His own throne (room), where the tabernacle of David was, that is where those who overcome will 'sit' in power as kings and priests.
God did say, Sit at My right hand **UNTIL**…
Well with the end of mans rule, they would be His footstool, broken and defeated.
Thus, **UNTIL** has arrived at that time, now He has left His Fathers throne room and entered into His vineyard, His inheritance…Israel…on whose soil the soles of His feet will tread.
And that has not yet happened.
Read the parables of the vineyard, of the kingdom, they all speak of Israel being the inheritance for Christ…and the Heathen also, to rule with a rod of iron.
This also hasn't happened yet.
Cheers Ed.
Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 16 2013,01:09) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,23:53) Hey Guys, As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J
Thanks Ed,Jesus is giving an example.
Cheers Ed.
Hi Devo, yes he sure did!“[The LORD JEHOVAH] said unto my Lord (Jesus Christ), Sit thou at my right hand,
until I (JEHOVAH) make thine enemies thy footstool. The Lord shall send the rod of thy
strength out of Zion: rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies.” (Ps.110:1-2)THE ROD OF JESUS STRENGTH IS THE HOLYSPIRIT
“The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together,
against [The LORD JEHOVAH], and against [YHVH's] anointed (Jesus Christ),
saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
Yet have I(YHVH) set my king(Jesus Christ) upon my holy hill of Zion.” (Psalms 2:2-6)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,06:57) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 16 2013,01:09) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,23:53) Hey Guys, As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J
Thanks Ed,Jesus is giving an example.
Cheers Ed.
Hi Devo, yes he sure did!“[The LORD JEHOVAH] said unto my Lord (Jesus Christ), Sit thou at my right hand,
until I (JEHOVAH) make thine enemies thy footstool. The Lord shall send the rod of thy
strength out of Zion: rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies.” (Ps.110:1-2)THE ROD OF JESUS STRENGTH IS THE HOLYSPIRIT
“The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together,
against [The LORD JEHOVAH], and against [YHVH's] anointed (Jesus Christ),
saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
Yet have I(YHVH) set my king(Jesus Christ) upon my holy hill of Zion.” (Psalms 2:2-6)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgThe rod of the Lord is wielded by those that The Lord uses to punish.
Like the Assyrian, he wielded The Lords rod to punish Israel, though he knew it not.
Isaiah 10:5
O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.David was the rod also, a man of war, The Lords will being wrought through him.
Isaiah 11:1
And there shall come forth a rod (David) out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch (Jesus) shall grow out of his roots:There are many more examples Ed, but when speaking of the rod of His inheritance, Israel is meant.
THE ROD OF HIS INHERITANCE
Jeremiah 10:16
The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the ROD of his inheritance: Whose inheritance? The LORD of hosts is his name.(Israel is His Inheritance just as all the parables declare)Israel will be given rule over all their oppressors when Christ sets up in Jerusalem, they will pillage those who pillaged them, and take them for servants and maids, whose servants they became when the false prophet conquers & scatters Israel in the near future…and they will come forth out of the Holy Mount Zion when The Lord finally begins to make them a praise and a blessing in the world
Psalm 74
1 (Maschil of Asaph.) O God, why hast thou cast us off for ever? why doth thine anger smoke against the sheep of thy pasture?2 Remember thy congregation, which thou hast purchased of old; the rod of thine inheritance, which thou hast redeemed; this mount Zion, wherein thou hast dwelt.
The rod of His inheritance = Israel.
So there we have it, we don't have to guess what the rod of His inheritance means because scripture already reveals it.
Nowhere in scripture does it say that the Holy Spirit is the rod of His inheritance Ed.
And since it is not in the scriptures, then it is a guess, a personal interpretation.
But now you don't have to guess what the rod is anymore, behold, I have shown you.Thanks EdJ.
Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 16 2013,13:41) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,06:57) Hi Devo, THE ROD OF JESUS STRENGTH IS THE HOLYSPIRIT
Your brother
in Christ,
Ed JNowhere in scripture does it say that the Holy Spirit is the rod of His inheritance Ed.
Thanks EdJ.
The sword of the Spirit is the word of God“And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword (“The Word” of God), that with it he should smite the nations: and he(The HolySpirit)
shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And
he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Rev 19:16).”Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,14:32) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 16 2013,13:41) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,06:57) Hi Devo, THE ROD OF JESUS STRENGTH IS THE HOLYSPIRIT
Your brother
in Christ,
Ed JNowhere in scripture does it say that the Holy Spirit is the rod of His inheritance Ed.
Thanks EdJ.
The sword of the Spirit is the word of God“And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword (“The Word” of God), that with it he should smite the nations: and he(The HolySpirit)
shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And
he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Rev 19:16).”
“They rebelled, and vexed his HolySpirit: therefore he (the HolySpirit)
was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.” (Isa 63:10)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,14:36) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,14:32) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 16 2013,13:41) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,06:57) Hi Devo, THE ROD OF JESUS STRENGTH IS THE HOLYSPIRIT
Your brother
in Christ,
Ed JNowhere in scripture does it say that the Holy Spirit is the rod of His inheritance Ed.
Thanks EdJ.
The sword of the Spirit is the word of God“And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword (“The Word” of God), that with it he should smite the nations: and he(The HolySpirit)
shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And
he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Rev 19:16).”
“They rebelled, and vexed his HolySpirit: therefore he (the HolySpirit)
was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.” (Isa 63:10)
“[The LORD JEHOVAH] shall send the rod of thy(Jesus') strength (the HolySpirit)
out of Zion: rule thou(HolySpirit) in the midst of thine enemies.” (Psalm 110:1-2)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,14:32) Quote The sword of the Spirit is the word of God Yes it is Ed, but we were speaking of the rod of His inheritance remember.
Quote “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword (“The Word” of God), that with it he should smite the nations: and he(The HolySpirit)
shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And
he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Rev 19:16).”Again, we were speaking of the rod of His inheritance remember?
His inheritance is not Himself, how do you inherit yourself?“And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword ,
The Word within Him, we agree
that with it he should smite the nations:
the Word, we agree
and he shall rule them with a rod of iron:
Jesus rules with a rod of iron, not the Holy Spirit rules with a rod of iron.
To rule with a rod of iron is for swift and harsh punishments, there are many examples of the rod being used by God, but these are not the same as the rod of His inheritance which we were speaking of, Jesus did not inherit Himself as a inheritance, which is where your explanation leads, and that makes no sense.and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Jesus treads the winepress not the Holy Spirit!!The Holy Spirit is IN Jesus, not independent of Jesus
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”
Jesus does, not the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is IN Jesus, like it is IN His servants, are His servants now also the Holy Spirit? Your method demands that they are too when examined closely.
Ed, the Holy Spirit is not a person, that's trinity doctrine, the Holy Spirit is the eternal life force proceeding out of the Father, the essence of that living Spirit within the Father…that does not make the Father the Holy Spirit, it makes Him the source of the Holy Spirit.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,14:36) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,14:32) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 16 2013,13:41) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,06:57) Hi Devo, THE ROD OF JESUS STRENGTH IS THE HOLYSPIRIT
Your brother
in Christ,
Ed JNowhere in scripture does it say that the Holy Spirit is the rod of His inheritance Ed.
Thanks EdJ.
The sword of the Spirit is the word of God“And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword (“The Word” of God), that with it he should smite the nations: and he(The HolySpirit)
shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And
he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Rev 19:16).”
“They rebelled, and vexed his HolySpirit: therefore he (the HolySpirit)
was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.” (Isa 63:10)
They rebelled and vexed EdJ's spirit, therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.The spirit within EdJ was vexed.
So EdJ with his vexed inner spirit, went out and became their enemy.EdJ went out, and within EdJ's body is his spirit.
So who went out?
EdJ did.
And what was IN EdJ?
Why, his spirit.
Did his spirit go out and leave EdJ at home?
Of course not, for how could EdJ trample the winepress if he were at home?
It would need be explained that EdJ sent his spirit out but he himself stayed home.
THEN we could say that the spirit trod the winepress independent of EdJ who wasn't personally there, but stayed home observing.
Doesn't gel EdJ.But thanks anyway for your input.
Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 16 2013,15:20) Quote
“And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword (“The Word” of God), that with it he should smite the nations: and he(The HolySpirit)
shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And
he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Rev 19:16).”Again, we were speaking of the rod of His inheritance remember?
His inheritance is not Himself, how do you inherit yourself?
Hi Devo,I wasn't; I instead was speaking of the rod of Jesus strength, which is the HolySpirit.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,18:53) Hey Guys, As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThe one who OVERCOME ,what
Then he can sit with him on his throne ,what does it mean to sit with him on the throne Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2013,13:53) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,18:53) Hey Guys, As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J
Edj(1)The one who OVERCOME ,what
(2)Then he can sit with him on his throne ,(3)what does it mean to sit with him on the throne
Hi Pierre, Good questions!1) 'The World'
2) Yes
3) To sit in the place of powerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 17 2013,11:25) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2013,13:53) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,18:53) Hey Guys, As the Scripture saith: “He who has ears to here”
LET HIM HEAR! Christ is sitting with GOD on the throne.“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)God bless
Ed J
Edj(1)The one who OVERCOME ,what
(2)Then he can sit with him on his throne ,(3)what does it mean to sit with him on the throne
Hi Pierre, Good questions!1) 'The World'
2) Yes
3) To sit in the place of powerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJI agree with you but then their are only 144k that will be chosen among all ,
but the #1 ;overcome the world ;what is that implicate
We are not technically considered to have overcome the world until we have finished the race.
And that will only happen at either our deaths, or at the 2nd coming gathering.
So we can not be 'sitting' in his throne just yet with power.
Do we have the sort of power promised we will have in the kingdom right now?
Of course not.When did Jesus sit in His Fathers throne?
When His earthly ministry came to an end at crucifixion.
He finished the race so to speak, He inherited when He ascended.I do understand where you are coming from though…
1 John 5:5
Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?But declarations like these must be tempered with ones like these:
Revelation 2:26
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:You see, unto the end, then we inherit and 'sit in His throne'.
We do not decide if we have overcome, and we do not officially overcome until the end of our days on earth.
Do we have power over the nations right now?
Do we judge ourselves as having overcome already?
Are we judges of our own salvation now?We do not have the right to declare ourselves as having overcome, that will be revealed by Christ and not we ourselves.
Cheers.
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