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- June 15, 2006 at 9:29 pm#19225He’s Coming in the CloudsParticipant
In Genesis verse one, God created the heaven and the earth. This is
the first heaven or as we know it, outer space. In verse 14, God
said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide
the day from night. and let them be for signs and for seasons, and
for days. Verse 14 thru 18 are are speaking of the heaven we know as
space.In verse six, God said, let there be a firmament in the mist of the
waters, and let devide the waters from the waters. This is the second
heaven or as we know it today, our atmosphere. In verse 7, It says
God made the firmament and devided the waters which were under the
firmanent from the waters from the waters that were above the
firmament, and it was so. In verse eight, God called the firmament
heaven. This is the second heaven. In verse 20, it says God created
foul to fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.The scripture is speaking of two heavens in Genesis, for it is
impossible for foul to fly in the heaven we know as outer space.
Proof that this is speaking of more then one heaven is found in the
first verse of Genesis two, thus the heavens and the earth were
finished. Notice, the word heaven is plurul, meaning more then one
heaven. This is not a translation error. Now if we were to put them
is the correct order, naturally, spiritual heaven would be first,
outer space second, and them the atmosphere third.3rd) 2Cr 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I
cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third
heaven.June 15, 2006 at 9:58 pm#19230NickHassanParticipantHi H,
Of course the real heaven, the throne of God was in existence with the angels and the sons of God, before the creation of visible matter and earthly beings and other things.June 15, 2006 at 10:49 pm#19241He’s Coming in the CloudsParticipantNick, can I ask you why the comment? I posted this article as a learning piece. It is just a fact. Something provable in scripture. Many people look at heaven as just space period.
June 15, 2006 at 10:54 pm#19242NickHassanParticipantHi H,
We are an open forum and all are invited to add or explain or enlarge any scriptural presentations so we can all learn from the light God sheds among us.
Often a comment brings another aspect to look into or something we have never considered before.
As much as is possible we work together. This is a shared task of delving for precious truth and we will never be finished.June 15, 2006 at 11:07 pm#19288He’s Coming in the CloudsParticipantJesus, was the beginning of creation.
June 15, 2006 at 11:24 pm#19619NickHassanParticipantHi H,
What does that verse mean to you?
Do you have others as witnesses?June 15, 2006 at 11:41 pm#19636He’s Coming in the CloudsParticipantIn the beginning was the Word.
June 15, 2006 at 11:50 pm#19638NickHassanParticipantHi H,
Yes and the Word was with God and everything that came into being thence was created through the only begotten Son of God.June 16, 2006 at 12:11 am#19641He’s Coming in the CloudsParticipantThe Father created all things through the Son and by the Son through the ministry of the Holy Spirit.
July 19, 2006 at 4:55 pm#22408He’s Coming in the CloudsParticipantI am responding to the question on heaven. Although there is more reference in scripture to the heavens, this will help in understanding the differences God willing.
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