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Mohamed taught in the 7th Century, well after Trinitarianism
Yes, and it is another error he made, as he doesn’t even know what they teach.
They teach: Father, Son and HolySpirit
…………NOT
‘al-Lah’, his consort Mary, and their boyHe didn’t know that Mary (Jesus’ mother) wasn’t the sister of Arron either.
the quran is riddled with errors
EDJ
Why do quote the bible in an attempt to prove the bible wrong?
Do you not realize that is retarded?2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
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and training in righteousness,
You actually are the one who refuses to accept the truth that God is The Most Merciful and Most Compassionate so your heart just hardens:
Then, after that, your hearts were hardened and became as stones or even worse in hardness. And indeed, there are stones out of which rivers gush forth, and indeed, there are of them (stones) which split asunder so that water flows from them, and indeed, there are of them (stones) which fall down for fear of Allah. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #74)
And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: “Now I repent;” nor of those who die while they are disbelievers. For them We have prepared a painful torment.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #18)
so which of the two told Muhammad that Jesus wasn’t killed or Crucified? Who told Muhammad that?
I told you already, the fallen angel Lucifer who is called satan the devil
He got the kaaba from the pagans, Jesus talking as an infant from the fraudulent infancy gospel.
He didn’t know that Arron’s sister Mary was a different Mary than Jesus mother.He said Alexander the great was prophet of ‘al-Lah’.
Muhammad is the false prophet of Revelation.2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
Scripture does not rebuke Scripture, it instead rebukes false teachings like those found in the quran.
The Most Merciful and Most Compassionate
For them We have prepared a painful tormentyour god is bipolar and a liar.
Here are Jesus words – this is how Scripture is used to teach and rebuke…
“Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.” (John 8:43-45)EDJ, Are you so dense as to not realize I can see what you post and many of these things you say have been already soundly refuted but you are like those who think repetition makes it truth.
Calling Mary “Oh Sister of Arron” because she is chaste is an expression equal to calling Jesus “son of David” these are pious expressions just as “son of God” is and you have already been taught this(Have you ever seen the Leonardo DiCaprio film shutter Island?)
O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah ‘Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, (“Be!” – and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh ) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: “three (trinity)!” Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) one Ilah (God), glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)Surely, disbelievers are those who said: “Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity).” But there is no Ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but one Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #73)
EDJ has Mary ever been called Mother of God? Is the birth of Jesus a creation or was it procreation as humans do?
Yes, and it is another error he made, as he doesn’t even know what they teach.
They teach: Father, Son and HolySpirit
…………NOT
‘al-Lah’, his consort Mary, and their boyHe didn’t know that Mary (Jesus’ mother) wasn’t the sister of Arron either.
the quran is riddled with errors
Collyridianism was an obscure Early Christian heretical movement whose adherents apparently worshipped the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus, as a goddess.
Most Roman Catholic adherents cheerfully refer to the Virgin Mary as the Queen of Heaven and understand this term to one of endearment, love, and adoration.
hi BD,
Why do you quote the absurd teachings of the false church as if they were relevant?
They are about equivalent to the value of the teacher you follow.
EDJ, Are you so dense as to not realize I can see what you post and many of these things you say have been already soundly refuted but you are like those who think repetition makes it truth.
Calling Mary “Oh Sister of Arron” because she is chaste is an expression equal to calling Jesus “son of David” these are pious expressions just as “son of God” is and you have already been taught this(Have you ever seen the Leonardo DiCaprio film shutter Island?)
Hi BD,
You’re right you try the same ploy over and over to try to justify a clear error in YOUR prophet’s book of fraud.
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YUSUFALI: And Mary the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit;
and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).is “daughter of Imran” just a cliche too? …NO, Muhammad clearly got the two Mary’s confused.
“And the name of Amram’s wife was Jochebed, the daughter of Levi, whom her mother bare to Levi in Egypt:
and she bare unto Amram Aaron and Moses, and Miriam their sister.” (Num 26:59)Muhammad is the false prophet of Rev.
Muhammad got the trinitarians view of “The Trinity” WRONG!
Wake-up! …and stop following the false prophet.
Hi BD,
I can see why you enjoy your teachings.
They are so carnal, so down to earth and full of strife and hatred and judgement.
No indication that our God of love had any involvement in their formation.
Muhammad clearly stated that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was the sister of Arron.
Aisha, Muhammad’s child bride, believed what Muhammad said; why don’t you?It was narrated from Ibn Jarir, narrated from Yaqub, narrated from Ibn U’laya, narrated from Sa’id Ibn Abi Sadaqa, narrated from Muhammad Ibn Sireen who stated that he was told that Ka’b said the verse that reads, “O sister of Harun (Aaron)!” (of Sura 19:28) does not refer to Aaron the brother of Moses. Aisha replied to Ka’b, “YOU HAVE LIED.” Ka’b responded, “O Mother of the believers! If the prophet, may Allah’s prayers be upon him, has said it, and he is more knowledgeable, then this is what he related. Besides, I find the difference in time between them (Jesus and Moses) to be 600 years.” He said that she remained silent
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Ed,
At least some messengers of Islam claim Mary is Aaron’s sister by faith and I cannot disagree with them. If they claim Aaron was the son of the her parents, as of the flesh, then I could dispute them but I cannot choose to interpret their words as I choose.
Their claim is that Jesus is not the son of God, as of the body. That is true.
You should know Jesus is the chief son of God, as of the Spirit. He is conceived of God’s Spirit and not of his body.
I do not agree with those that claim God has a body because I believe he created all the dimensions of space and time.
Bodhitharta,
Jesus is the son of David by lineage as well as by faith. Mary is David’s descendant through his son Nathan. She may well have been an only child who then married in her tribe to keep her inheritance within it. Joseph is David’s descendant via his son Solomon. Joseph claimed Jesus as his son, given to him by God.
Hi EDJ
you wrote:
is “daughter of Imran” just a cliche too? …NO, Muhammad clearly got the two Mary’s confused.
“And the name of Amram’s wife was Jochebed, the daughter of Levi, whom her mother bare to Levi in Egypt:
and she bare unto Amram Aaron and Moses, and Miriam their sister.” (Num 26:59)There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
Just filling you in on how things are done
33-34. Allah did choose Adam and Noah the family of Abraham, and the family of Imran above all people. Offspring, one of the other; and Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
A Daughter of Aaron is a daughter of Imran the same way Son of David is Son of Abraham but still further
35. Behold! a woman of Imran said: “O my Lord! I do dedicate into Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service so accept this of me! for Thou hearest and knowest all things.”
If you notice Mary’s mother’s name is not mentioned so your point has failed. Many people in the Bible have the same names because names had a meaning.
Mary was the name of six women of the Bible, including the mother of Jesus, Mary Magdalene, the sister of Lazarus, the wife of Cleopas, the mother of John Mark, and a Christian in Rome. there is no doubt that if you were attacking Christianity using your method of misinformation you would claim that the Bible writers were confused about the Mary’s or the two Johns multiple Judas’s…etc. Don’t play the name game EDJ I can get very thorough with it.
It seems EdJ that it is you that are confused and it’s because you have no appreciation of culture and I will prove it
Matthew 1:16and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
Luke 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli,
Now, using your own judgement you are saying that the bible writers are confused and thereby completely false, I do this to you all the time EDJ…create a valid argument. If you do not know a culture you will obsess on things you simply cannot comprehend.
Matthew 7:2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Hi BD,
Ps 12 .6
” The words of the Lord are pure words;as silver refined in the furnace on the earth, refined seven times.
You O lord will keep them.”
By contrast what you offer is harsh, inconsistent and it contains no life.
Hi Nick
I notice that when it was EDJ playing the game you falsely accused me, I showed him to be wrong with scripture and instead of you saying “God’s will be done” you thought it best to disparage me therefore for 3 days God will not communicate with you.
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