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- NickHassan wrote:
Hi KW,
Yes the religion of the false prophet may well be kin to the whore.
But there is no relationship with the Body of Christ.
Nothing else matters
Hi Nick,
Glad to see my work here is paying off!
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God bless
Ed J005.047 YUSUFALI:
Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein.
If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed,
they are (no better than) those who rebel.Hi BD,
We therefore judge islam to be false based on the Gospel.
B’shem
YHVHEDJ, The one thing you can count on is Kerwin is not foolish or gullible if he disagrees there is a reason but I will tell you he won’t just make up any garbage that comes to mind to try to alter the opinion of others, that my friend is a distinction you do share with a few here but Kerwin is simply not like that, every thing you say is so bitter and filled with a bad spirit, you engage in the divination of numbers because you do not trust God, with the same energy you use to add up numbers for your schemes you could actually study and know what the Quran says. You keep saying that Muhammad is a false prophet but this is the same saying the Jews say about Christ Jesus.
Nay, they charge with falsehood that whose knowledge they cannot compass, even before the elucidation thereof hath reached them: thus did those before them make charges of falsehood: but see what was the end of those who did wrong!
( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #39)
Hi Kerwin,
“al” in Arabic is “the”
‘al-Lah’ means ‘the LAH’
‘the LAH’ does not exist“Satan himself is transformed into (Jibreel) an angel of light” (2 Cor 11:14)
It is those who believe not in the Signs of Allah, that forge falsehood: it is they who lie!
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #105)
Hi EDJ
Hi BD,
We therefore judge islam to be false based on the Gospel.
Jesus was right: “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.”
I guess you still cannot bear it
Jesus was right: “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.”
I guess you still cannot bear it
Are you looking in the mirror as you say those words?
Because it is you who cannot bear what the spirit reveals.EDJ wrote:
Hi Nick,
Glad to see my work here is paying off!
so not the work of God?
Hi BD,
“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall
be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.” (1 Cor 3:13)My work will not be burned in the fire!
“If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss:
but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” (1 Cor 3:15)B’shem
YHVHEd,
ilāh means either god or deity.
Allah is used by Arab speaking Christians and Jews as well.
It seems I was wrong and Islam does not deny the miraculous conception of Jesus.
Trinitarians claim that under certain circumstances God can be tempted by evil.
The God of the Trinitarians is not the God of Jesus. I have no evidence to reveal the God of Islam is not the God of Jesus though their teaching reveals they do not understand the new covenant.
EDJ
You believe that Jesus already returned , correct?
No,
I keep saying Muhammad is ‘the false prophet’
So is the false Prophet supposed to arrive after the return of Jesus? Is Jesus returning a 3rd time? How does that work with you? Also you believe that the arrival of “the false prophet is post mortem or is Muhammad returning as well?
Let’s say for the sake of argument I wanted to buy into your theology put it together for me where it makes sense…or is it like the trinity where I just have to believe you have some secret knowledge that God has not shared with anyone else?
EDJ
you wrote:
Are you looking in the mirror as you say those words?
Because it is you who cannot bear what the spirit reveals.Can you tell me what Christians could not bear when Christians claim all things have already been revealed to them unless Jesus was talking about the trinity which most of you cannot bear it must be something else, what is it?
I have no evidence to reveal the God of Islam is not the God of Jesus
Hi Kerwin,
WHAT ???
Are you that unfamiliar with that islam teaches?009.030
SHAKIR: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and
the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are
the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before;
may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!Wake-up!
So is the false Prophet supposed to arrive after the return of Jesus?
Hi BD,
The spirit of Christ returned on Pentecost. (ref. John 14:23, Isa 64:4-5, Heb.9:28)“the prince of this world (Lucifer/satan) cometh, and hath nothing in me” (John 14:30)
“Satan himself is transformed into (Jibreel) an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing
if his ministers (Muhammad) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.” (2 Corinthians 11:14-15)Wake-up!
Also you believe that the arrival of “the false prophet is post mortem or is Muhammad returning as well?
Hi BD,
The false prophet and the beast (islam) is cast into the lake of fire.
Let’s say for the sake of argument I wanted to buy into your theology put it together for me where it makes sense…or is it like the trinity where I just have to believe you have some secret knowledge that God has not shared with anyone else?
Hi BD,
2 Cor 11:14 shows that the angel Jibreel was really ‘satan’ the fallen angel
Lucifer (ref. Isa 14:12-15) who came to Muhammad in the cave as Jibreel…“though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:8)
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light” (2 Cor 11:14)Rev.13:13 is about the false prophet and his strange fire (the quran) he claimed was from Jibreel…
And he (Muhammad) doeth great wonders, so that he maketh (strange) fire come down from heaven
on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of
those miracles (recitals) which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;” (Rev 13:13-14)Compare Rev.13:13 to:
“Is not my word like as a fire? saith YHVH; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
Therefore, behold, I against the prophets, saith YHVH, that steal my words every one from his neighbor.
Behold, I against the prophets, saith YHVH, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.” (Jer 23:29-31)Muhammad stole many words from his neighbors and said “He saith” Muhammad also spoke many lies about God
Certainly this is not to complicated for you to grasp?
Ed JEDJ, Jews also say the same thing, do the Jews believe in the same God….oh wait a minute, Don’t Christians believe in the God of the Jews and the Jews reject Christ? So we do know that Jews reject Jesus but Jesus believes in the God of The Jews just like The Muslims, apparently rejection has nothing to do with facts.
I have no evidence to reveal the God of Islam is not the God of Jesus
Hi Kerwin,
WHAT ???
Are you that unfamiliar with that islam teaches?009.030
SHAKIR: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and
the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are
the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before;
may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!All the pagans called different people “son of God even before the Jews started saying it and the Jews said it about a ton of beings according to the Old Testament God has sons by the tons it gets so confusing that Paul even asks “to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become
your Father”? as if he didn’t realize it is written: “Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD”The fact is simple God has no sons other than allegory or metaphor. God is not a man He does not produce children and when we say that we are children of God we should understand that as “being like children of God” not actual children.
The well informed can understand the distinction but those who depend on being taught easily get misled believing allegory and metaphor is literal. There are churches today called Mother Mary Queen of Heaven if she is Queen who is King of Heaven the whole idea is blasphemous Jesus was the result of a Miracle not a fling with Mary, therefore the creation is called: And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
NOTICE it DOES NOT SAY “IS” it says CLEARLY “will be called” but most have perverted the concept and invented evil blasphemies such as the trinity and Jesus worshiped as God, do you have any idea how many have been led astray because of this?
Why do you continually call Jesus a liar?
“Dost thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.” (John 9:35-38)The false prophet is a liar and an antichrist. (see 1John 2:22)
Wake-up!
Ed,
Son of God is a vague title but from what I have heard they belie Jesus is the son of God just as any other believer is. It sounds more like they are opposed to the Trinitarian use of the title Son of God.
Mohamed taught in the 7th Century, well after Trinitarianism and its nonsense came to be. It was able to survive because the Eastern Roman Empire has grown weak and the related Catholic Church was not as independently power as its western counterpart. It sounds like a protest against the Catholic Church and its teaching that Jesus is God as well as the teaching that Jesus sacrificed himself. I am sure their are Christians that agree with those teachings as well.
Hi EDJ
Hi BD,
2 Cor 11:14 shows that the angel Jibreel was really ‘satan’ the fallen angel
Lucifer (ref. Isa 14:12-15) who came to Muhammad in the cave as Jibreel…“though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:8)
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light” (2 Cor 11:14)Do you even bother to read anything?
2 corinthians 11
4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
5I do not think I am in the least inferior to those “super-apostles.”a 6I may indeed be untrained as a speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way.
…….16I repeat: Let no one take me for a fool. But if you do, then tolerate me just as you would a fool, so that I may do a little boasting. 17In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool.
That sounds about right for you ED, you don’t speak for the Lord but I just tolerate you.
Rev.13:13 is about the false prophet and his strange fire (the quran) he claimed was from Jibreel…
And he (Muhammad) doeth great wonders, so that he maketh (strange) fire come down from heaven
on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of
those miracles (recitals) which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;” (Rev 13:13-14)Who is the beast in your story? The only part you got right so far is the Quran is truly a miracle and there is nothing like it.
Compare Rev.13:13 to:
“Is not my word like as a fire? saith YHVH; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
Therefore, behold, I against the prophets, saith YHVH, that steal my words every one from his neighbor.
Behold, I against the prophets, saith YHVH, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.” (Jer 23:29-31)Muhammad stole many words from his neighbors and said “He saith” Muhammad also spoke many lies about God
Certainly this is not to complicated for you to grasp?
Ed JYou actually didn’t answer my question and what’s more important you say Muhammad got the Quran from Christians and Jews but the problem is Jews don’t accept Jesus and Christians don’t accept that the Jews didn’t Kill or Crucify Jesus so which of the two told Muhammad that Jesus wasn’t killed or Crucified? Who told Muhammad that? Who of the two told Muhammad God has no son but Jesus is the word of God, what neighbor told him that EDJ, tell us if you now
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