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  • #376272
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,
    1 Timothy 6:18
    That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

    1cor 3
    11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

    13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    #376289
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,14:19)
    Hi WU
    Rev 3
    17 Because you say, β€œI am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. 19 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.

    Need makes us ask and seek and knock.
    Suffering brings grace.

    Securing ourselves and our futures with money stops us beseeching our God for grace in time of need.
    We lack the gold that endures, grace and gifts that strengthen and enable us to serve,and the works done in him,

    Our clothes of salvation can become uncared for, soiled or moth eaten and we are again naked before our God


    Nick.

    So how can onehave white robes on?
    read John 6:48–58.

    John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

    John 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

    John 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

    John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

    John 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

    John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

    John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

    John 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

    John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

    John 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

    John 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

    wakeup.

    #376295
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    White robes are not knowledge.
    The Word is food but not clothing.

    #376302
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,20:33)
    Hi WU,
    White robes are not knowledge.
    The Word is food but not clothing.


    Nick.

    You obviously dont bother to read.

    Eating the flesh of Christ is taking knowledge in.
    By indulging yourself with scriptures,and have some knowledge. Knowing Jesus and God.
    Knowledge shall cover the earth as the sea cover the earth,
    and they will know that I am the Lord.

    wakeup.

    #376304
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Man admires head knowledge but wisdom is more valuable.
    Knowing God and His son is as mutual love

    #376307
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,20:43)
    Hi WU,
    Man admires head knowledge but wisdom is more valuable.
    Knowing God and His son is as mutual love


    Nick.

    You claim that you love Jesus,
    but you are ignoring His words.
    This is clear to see.

    wakeup.

    #376309
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Eph 5
    25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church [q]in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. 28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body. 31 For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. 32 This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless, each individual among you also is to love his own wife even as himself, and the wife must see to it that she [r]respects her husband.

    #376328
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,20:51)
    Hi WU,
    Eph 5
    25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church [q]in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. 28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body. 31 For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. 32 This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless, each individual among you also is to love his own wife even as himself, and the wife must see to it that she [r]respects her husband.


    Nick.

    25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water
    ***with the word***,
    27 that He might present to Himself the church [q]in all her glory, having no—-

    Understand what you are reading.
    Washing Her with the word. As you wash the dirt of the body with water. Her=the church.
    You can not wash the church with water.

    wakeup.

    #376366
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    The Word is spiritual and essential for the brothers who are reborn of water and the Spirit.
    Knowledge in the biblical sense is not just understanding but transformation of the mind by this power.

    #376407
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,05:08)
    Hi WU,
    The Word is spiritual and essential for the brothers who are reborn of water and the Spirit.
    Knowledge in the biblical sense is not just understanding but transformation of the mind by this power.


    Nick.

    You have been washed with water.
    The cup is washed on the outside only.
    Only the HS can wash you from the insode.
    1.Reborn of the mind. renewing of the mind.But the body is
    still flesh.
    2.Born again; born once more in a spirit body.

    wakeup.

    #376410
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    God does not refer to the first resurrection as rebirth.

    #376413
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,07:05)
    Hi WU,
    God does not refer to the first resurrection as rebirth.


    Nick.

    Isaiah 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation ***be born*** at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

    Isaiah 66:9 ***Shall I bring to the birth***, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

    This is the true born again.This is the second birth.
    This is the resurrection of all the saints.
    This is also the bringing back of the jews chosen.(remnant).
    The returning;reviving.

    wakeup.

    #376421
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Reborn of the Spirit.
    Rebirth

    #376443
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,08:33)
    Hi WU,
    Reborn of the Spirit.
    Rebirth


    Nick.

    Reborn IN spirit;like the angels.
    No more marriages no more kfc and burgers.

    wakeup.

    #376447
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    This is not Ez 37

    1.Matthew 22:30
    For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

    2.Mark 12:25
    For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

    3.Luke 20:36
    for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

    #376453
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,09:33)
    Hi WU,
    This is not Ez 37

    1.Matthew 22:30
    For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

    2.Mark 12:25
    For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

    3.Luke 20:36
    for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.


    Nick.

    These are for the resurrected saints,not for the jews that have been brought back in the flesh.They will live a long life
    and die. And wil be resurrected in the second resurrection.

    wakeup.

    #376552
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,09:29)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,08:33)
    Hi WU,
    Reborn of the Spirit.
    Rebirth


    Nick.

    Reborn IN spirit;like the angels.
    No more marriages no more kfc and burgers.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting the Angels were not capable
    of having sexual relations with the daughters of men?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #376561
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    I think you meant becoming like the angels.
    That is what scripture says

    #376595
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,18:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,09:29)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,08:33)
    Hi WU,
    Reborn of the Spirit.
    Rebirth


    Nick.

    Reborn IN spirit;like the angels.
    No more marriages no more kfc and burgers.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting the Angels were not capable
    of having sexual relations with the daughters of men?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    They can materialise and have sex;which they did,
    in the days of Noah.
    But strictly forbidden.

    wakeup.

    #376629
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 07 2014,01:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,18:03)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting the Angels were not capable
    of having sexual relations with the daughters of men?


    Edj.

    They can materialise and have sex;which they did,
    in the days of Noah.
    But strictly forbidden.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    When they are unmaterialized – they are somewhere else.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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