The woman in rev.12. clarified.

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  • #785356
    Wakeup
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    Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

    Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

    Remember; God’s doctrine is His Woman; She was adopted by the 12 tribes of islael.(The 12 stars On her Crown).
    But She was not practised in truth; She was corrupted by Israel.
    Israel also killed all the prophets; God has send to them.

    Now God brought forth His anointed one through His spiritual Woman, that has been rejected by Israel.
    He was born of God’s Woman spiritually.
    He was Born of Mary fleshly. He has a job to finish.
    He came to teached jews and gentiles about God’s Woman. God’s doctrine. The jews gave Him up. God closed the door to the jews.
    The gentiles accepted Her; and multilplied. The good seed was sown. But the enemy has also been doing some sowing,
    sowing the tares. I stop here because, this topic is about the Woman.

    God’s son was taken up and sits next to His Father. He is to rule all nations with a rod of iron.
    After God has put all His enemies under His feet.

    Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand,
    until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
    Meaning: He will not rule until all his enemies are put under him.

    In detail; The relationship between Jesus And God’s Woman.
    1. God’s doctrine consists of His Word.
    2. God’s anointed was God’s Word. Then made flesh.
    3. He became God’s only begotten Son, in the flesh; born by the will of God.
    4. Jesus sowed God’s doctrine on earth; He did the sowing. Therefore the doctrine is called the Daughter of Zion.
    The Daughter of God’s Woman, He is the Son Of God. The corner stone of the 12 foundations.

    5. When The Daughter of Zion has been made perfect, clean and righteous, (This will only happen during the 1000years.)
    The two will be united to one flesh.(the wedding); He will meet His bride.(symbolically).
    And all clothed in righteousness will be invited to the uniting. Then What? Then the Groom and his Bride and all the
    children will be accepted by God; that He(the groom) has done well. All will be in the one spirit in God.
    ( the children in Christ And Christ in God, and God in all).

    wakeup.

    #785359
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    GOD”S DOCTRINE IS HIS WOMAN?

    Why should we remember your own personal interpretations?

    We have a TEACHER and he is not FALSE

     

    #785395
    princess
    Participant

    wakeup

    The woman that is described in the passage  can represent ISIS the Egyptian goddess or from the Chaotic Church Mother Mary.

    Not saying I have anything against a female deities, you cannot tell me I am made in HIS image then set me to the side and say…just sit there and look pretty. Not saying that I can’t sit there and look pretty but it is easily mastered then gets boring. My mind can’t handle it, so off I go…..which leads me to most deities were always represented by the zodiac, sun, moon stars. Common beliefs for the ancients. Where do you think the sun surrounding the head in paintings came from?

    and by the by ……the son is much different in his disciplinary tactics then his father in your roman bible.

    Your continuous chant on matters is quite a repetitive habit.  May I ask why?

    Just curious….reminds of the verse in the roman Bible about the long winded speeches, make a big show ……..a Pharisee that’s it, a Pharisee.

    You wouldn’t happen to be one of those now would you?

     

     

     

     

    #785401
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Princess.

    You seem to be confused in your comment.
    It is more about Me, than about my posts.
    Anyone can have an opinion about me, but are speechless re’ my post.
    The woman in rev 12:
    The Lord Jesus is not born out of isis; if that is what you are saying.
    God does not copy men; but men copies God.

    wakeup.

    #785408
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Speechless about your presentation?

    You teach as if you know about spiritual things, but you know little.

    #785435
    princess
    Participant

    Dear wake up,

    Truly if your teachings had some meat to them, then perhaps a conversation can proceed. How did you say it, the milk isn’t even warmed. What you preach against is what you are professing. Man telling man what god is, how he is, why he is and when he is coming. With your added bonus of don’t shot the messenger, I’m just doing god’s will.

    Each one has their own with their deity. The breaking of bones to each other is what gets me. Ones that profess that their god is the true god and there is no other and this is what god says and to go against is a heretic, what difference is there when one religion does it by physical force to another that using physiological force or even worse when they take lives.

    It seems that it has come that physical now over powers the spirit, there is an ancient teaching that warns of this. Much more ancient then the teachings you represent. The spirit does not age does not change. It has been man that has changed this,  using physical attributes to explain the awe of the spirit.

    One can read, write and speak of their deity, give their lives, take lives for it. These actions show what the individual thinks his/her deity wants from them. Are you most confident in how you represent your deity.

    Do you do what you do in purity and love? Or do you do it because you are instructed to? Is it true desire of your heart?

    Your teachings represent what I am familiar with and that is listening to the Pharisee pounding his chest and making a big ta-do, give me the humble whose tears cleanse, that is where the true teachings are.

     

     

     

     

    #785478
    Wakeup
    Participant

    HI PRINCESS.

    One can shout as loud as he wants; but with no scriptural backing, it is all just wind.
    I have posted a list of failures of the churches teachings, a few weeks back. Titled The test.
    I don’t just make empty accusing. I have backed it up in all my posts.
    Is it not time to hear what Jesus says.

    wakeup.

    #785483
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Yes we know you believe everything you say

    But most is just wind.

    #785484
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Indeed it is time to hear of the Lord.

     

    You do not speak for him

    Your words do not align with his.

    Time to sit down and hear from his mouth.

    #785492
    princess
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    Hum…my words are pneuma; yours are Pharisee. Let me know if you need a back up for that one.

    Wonder how all those before us, that had no back up were touched by the spirit? Felt the presence, change their hearts and minds. In this day and age, they would be considered what? Agonistic, pagan. The ones that could not place a name, the ones that could not explain, the ones that just knew and they just lived it. Poor bastards would never have a chance with religion in this day and age.

    Still left with the question: Why do you do what you do?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #785494
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    The kingdom of heaven is like a woman who is giving birth …

    #785496
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Princess.

    Wakeup,

    Hum…my words are pneuma; yours are Pharisee. Let me know if you need a back up for that one.
    Wonder how all those before us, that had no back up were touched by the spirit? Felt the presence, change their hearts and minds. In this day and age, they would be considered what? Agonistic, pagan. The ones that could not place a name, the ones that could not explain, the ones that just knew and they just lived it. Poor bastards would never have a chance with religion in this day and age.
    Still left with the question: Why do you do what you do?

    Your word is pneuma? do you mean haauummmmmm. what is it saying?

    That is the reason for the second resurrection ;so they can be judged by the books.
    How is it that I don’t see you quoting any scriptures?
    You need to bring forth scriptures to contradict my comments.

    Why I do what I do is to come up with scriptural evidence, to proof that the land is indeed desolate.

    wakeup.

    #785497
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    But your words add to the desolation.

    turn back

    #785498
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Kerwin.

    Before She can give birth; she must be with child.
    And Her child must grow mature before She gives birth to a healthy child.

    wakeup.

    #785499
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    So when Jesus was saying that “you must be born again” he was not speaking to you.

    You prefer your own ideas.

    #785500
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    So you want those who are reborn to already be as “educated” adults taught by you and not infants utterly dependant and in need of mother’s milk?

    #785501
    NickHassan
    Participant

    HI WU,

    Everything you say seems to point to your own importance in the plan.

    It never was about you.

    #785502
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Princess.

    The Holy bible is the word of God for your information.
    Not the words of the pharisees.
    Don’t know what flesh you have been eating?

    wakeup.

    #785504
    kerwin
    Participant

    To whomever may be concerned;

    This is Revelations 12 turned a parable.

    The kingdom of heaven is like a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: and she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

    And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    #785519
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    God uses the stars to teach and reflect scripture

    Those who are interested should learn more about VIRGO [the virgin]and DRACO[the dragon] and compare their relationship with rev 12.

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