The wedding feast of the lamb

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Nick;

Exactly.

Steven

February 12, 2008 at 7:45 pm#81248

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Hi Steve,
When do you believe the rapture occurs in relationship to the Tribulation?

February 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm#81252

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Hi,
Luke 4:25
But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

Could this scripture also symbolise the taking of the body of Christ, with the Spirit of God, from earth for the same length of time?

February 12, 2008 at 9:46 pm#81262

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Exactly

February 13, 2008 at 7:38 pm#81325

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 13 2008,07:09)

Hi,
Luke 4:25
But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

Could this scripture also symbolise the taking of the body of Christ, with the Spirit of God, from earth for the same length of time?

Hi,
Compare Rev11

3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

3 and a half years

February 13, 2008 at 9:34 pm#81334

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Very Good

March 17, 2008 at 9:36 am#84119

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Hi,
Those who will be at the feast include the “great men of old”.

11And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

12But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

March 17, 2008 at 8:09 pm#84136

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Nick;

The term children is referring to the spiritually immature. The unwise servants and virgins who have been negligent and reckless in their walk with the Lord. The terms “outer darkness” is referring to the court that is without, the outer court of the temple, which shall be trodden under foot of the Gentiles for three and one half years. The day of the Lord which commences as a thief in the night before the tribulation is said to be a very dark day. Jesus tells us to pray that our flight is not on the winter or Sabbath because then shall be great tribulation. It is the only time where Christ fills in the blanks for us and tells us what to pray for for ourselves specifically.

March 17, 2008 at 8:24 pm#84137

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Hi Steve,
Yes.
Except that the warning about fleeing is to those in Judaea, a specific warning to the Jews.

Lk 21
20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Mk 13
13And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

15And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

Mt 24
16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

July 3, 2008 at 4:24 am#95657

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topical

October 5, 2008 at 6:37 pm#109803

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4 94

October 5, 2008 at 8:14 pm#109812

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Well, I have read through all of the comments that were made, and some were very good. My understanding is that the wedding feast will occur when the Lord comes for his bride the church or the body of Christ, and that occurs here:

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1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

October 5, 2008 at 8:28 pm#109814

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Hi 94,
The AIR.
The prince of the power of the air is cast down by the lifting up of the lamb.

October 5, 2008 at 9:31 pm#109821

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2008,08:28)

Hi 94,
The AIR.
The prince of the power of the air is cast down by the lifting up of the lamb.

Hi Nick:

True, but he will be cast out of the church and in his rage he will persecute the children of God in the last 3 1/2 years of the present world.

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Rev 12:7 ¶ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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Rev 12:13 ¶ And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man [child].
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

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Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

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Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 ¶ But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy [it] unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom [is] an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him

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Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

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2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

October 5, 2008 at 9:37 pm#109822

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Hi 94,
Rev 12 seems to suggest he is cast out of heaven with one third of the angels.
Satan has no role in the true church and his seed, the tares, will be removed at the end.
He will go after the children of the WOMAN, [Israel] which brought forth the church.

October 5, 2008 at 9:44 pm#109823

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Hi 94,
It all ties in with the bridesmaids too.

October 5, 2008 at 10:05 pm#109827

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2008,09:37)

Hi Nick:

My understanding is that these who are cast out of heaven(not literal heaven but the kingdom of God or heaven) are those who profess to be Christians who will be deceived by the Satan and will fall away from the church, and those who are alive at the coming of the Lord will have worshipped the Anti-Christ.

Yes, those who are cast out will persecute the woman(Israel) as they did in the Roman Empire era (not the nation of Israel) but Christians(from the nation of Israel) and they will also persecute the Israel of God from the gentile nations.

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Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

October 5, 2008 at 10:10 pm#109828

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2008,09:44)

Hi 94,
It all ties in with the bridesmaids too.

This is true. It does.

October 5, 2008 at 10:16 pm#109830

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Quote (942767 @ Oct. 06 2008,10:05)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2008,09:37)

Hi Nick:

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Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

Hi 94,
I do not think the Kingdom of God\ Heaven
is a synonym for heaven or should be interpreted in that light.

Satan has access to heaven as Job1-2 shows and it is the home of angels so heaven doing housekeeping precedes the cleanup of earth

October 5, 2008 at 10:32 pm#109832