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Hi,
My understanding is that the wedding feast will be that which is commonly called the rapture which I believe is also the first resurrection.
“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household to give them meat in due season? (This meat is the word of God) Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, that he shall make him ruler over all his goods”. (Matt. 24:45-47) (This would parallel the five wise virgins. The oil in their lamps is the anointed word of God)
“But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, my lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to smite his fellow-servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; the lord of that servant whall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, and shall appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matt.. 24:48-51) (These last parallel the five foolish virgins or the man without the wedding garment in Matt. 22:11-14)
Hi,
I believe it is an actual event, as described so often by Jesus and also in Revelation, a celebration of the wedding of the Lamb to his church, a reunion worth all of heaven rejoicing. Perhaps it is after the rapture while the earth and the godless dregs of humanity suffer the final wrath of God.Hi,
We are told that some will be surprised to be thrown out of the wedding feast because they were not properly clothed.
We are told in Galatians that we are clothed in Christ through baptism.
Seek ye first the kingdomHi,
This feast is shown just before the return of Christ to earth as shown in Rev 19
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
It makes me wonder if the feast is of the raptured ones with Christ while the great tribulation, the wrath of God, rages on earth.
Much is said by Christ about the feast including the correct wedding clothes.
Mt22
8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14For many are called, but few are chosen.
Paul told us what the clothing was that we should wear.
Gal 3
26For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
Quote Hi, My understanding is that the wedding feast will be that which is commonly called the rapture which I believe is also the first resurrection.
“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household to give them meat in due season? (This meat is the word of God) Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, that he shall make him ruler over all his goods”. (Matt. 24:45-47) (This would parallel the five wise virgins. The oil in their lamps is the anointed word of God)
“But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, my lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to smite his fellow-servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; the lord of that servant whall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, and shall appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matt.. 24:48-51) (These last parallel the five foolish virgins or the man without the wedding garment in Matt. 22:11-14)
These parables to parallel but the resurrection does not occur until after the tribulation of those days at the last trump. A very common error is a view that the resurrection and the rapture are the same event, they are not. The resurrection occurs at the last trump as shown in I Thes. 4. Incidentally, Paul follows the same order as Christ, first he gives a prelude in 1 Thes 4 and then in chapter 5 explains how the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night and warns us not to be sleeping.
Nearly all the churches today believe that the rapture is a guaranteed escape, it is not. Jesus taught to be ready with more parables than any other to communicate this truth. Paul also said how shall we escape if we neglect to great of salvation. Spiritual negligence is rampid in the church. It's not that what is being ministered in necessarily wrong, it is the failure to preach what is a more important truth of being ready. That truth is central to John the Baptist, Christ, and the Apostles. Unfortunately today the church is sound asleep focusing on a natural Israel and how to receive natural blessings.
I challenge you to find a ministry that preaches to be ready for the imminent coming of the Lord. As far as I can see, those churches are almost extinct. I wish I knew of just one.
Steven
Hi Steve,
I believe we shall see the results of first six trumpets of God.
Rev 10
7But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.I believe this is the promised Rapture.
Then follows the woes of the wrath of God.We are not to know that wrath being safe in the Son.
John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,1 Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.Ephesians 2:3
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.Ephesians 5:6
Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.Colossians 3:6
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
Some too will be saved from this great tribulation era too.Rev7
9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Hi,
Some enter through the door to the feast before the shutting of the door.
Matt 25
10″And while they were going away to make the purchase, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding feast; and the door was shut.Some have to suffer the tribulation and greet Christ on his return.
Lk 12
36″Be like men who are waiting for their master when he returns from the wedding feast, so that they may immediately open the door to him when he comes and knocks.Hi,
Mt 22.
11And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
So perhaps this refers to those who are put back out of the wedding feast door again into the darkness and suffering of the great tribulation?
Hi,
Guess who serves the guests at the wedding.
The bridegroom.
Luke 12:37
“Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will gird himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and will come up and wait on them.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2006,14:44) All were waiting for the bridegroom with lamps [the word is a lamp to my feet]so all were believers.
Some expected to be able to use the Lamp[the Word] without the necessary oil [The Spirit].
All were asleep and unaware of the time of the return of the Groom.
Only those who have both the lamp and the oil will be able to see the return of the Groom in the darkness of the world.
This is good stuff. It's well worth the “bump” to bring these thoughts forward.I've never thought of the Lamp being the bible and the oil being the Spirit of God. Makes sense. It's also curious that there are those who believe they can use their lamp (the bible) without oil (the Spirit of God). Interesting….
Quote Hi,
Mt 22.
11And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
So perhaps this refers to those who are put back out of the wedding feast door again into the darkness and suffering of the great tribulation?
Nick;
Very Good. This is so exciting and sobering. Peter said that judgment must begin at the house of God.
Jesus said that the servant who knew to do his Lord's will and did it not would be beaten with many stripes. Proverbs says that stripes are prepared for the back of fools. The five virgins that did not enter in were termed to be foolish. These go through the tribulation.
Jesus said no man having put his hand to the plow and looking back is worthy of the kingdom of God. In that hour the foolish virgins will have to obey God in the time of testing. Lot and his daughters looked forward and were saved. His wife could not control her eyes and was lost.
Jesus said when you see the abomination of desolation, let he that is on the house top not come down and he that is in the field not return. The abomination of desolation is the anti-christ. Jesus said when you see it, to be especially aware because absolute obedience will be necessary to be saved.
The prophets are filled with these truths. Jeremiah 25 talks about good and evil figs. The good figs would be carried away captive in Babylon but would still be preserved. The evil figs would be driven by the sword and wander about for their lives (I'm paraphrasing). What is going to happen to the church is seen in the depictions of what happened to natural Israel as seen in Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel. You'll find that God said they were filled with covetousness and were following the imaginations of their own hearts. It's a perfect picture of today's church.
God doesn't appoint us to wrath, we appoint ourselves if we draw back and become fruitless. Hebrews chapter 6 talks about those who have tasted of the good word of God and the powers of the world to come how if they turn back they become thorns that will be destroyed. Jesus described the thorns in the parable of the sower. He also said that figs are not gathered from thorns. Avoid thorn ministries. Paul said that some believe that gain is godliness and from such you should withdraw.
Thorn ministries tickle the ears. It's all about you creating your own destiny and beautify your life in the name of God. According to Paul it is perversion. They take the scriptures and twist them to fulfill their own desires as if that is the goal. You were rarely hear a thorn minister warn christians of the day of the Lord, or to pray to be worthy to escape. It's not an issue to them because they reject the truth in the name of grace.
This Laodicean church believes that they are rich spiritually but know not that they are naked, poor, blind, wretched, and miserable. These are foolish virgins. Their entire message is void of the major message that Christ preached of being ready for the kingdom of God is at hand.
Take Care
Steven
Hi,
There are empty seats at the feast so the good and the bad are brought in to fill them by the mercy of God.Matt 22
8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
Good. Pray that your flight be not on the sabbath or in the winter for then shall be great tribulation.
Steven
Hi Steve,
Mt 243And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Compare Rev 14
1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. “
Since the worldwide preaching as shown in Rev 14 occurs during the tribulation, after the rapture, and it is a warning to those in Israel, then perhaps it is specific to the Jewish people? Some are saved through that time of the great tribulation.
Quote Since the worldwide preaching as shown in Rev 14 occurs during the tribulation, after the rapture, and it is a warning to those in Israel, then perhaps it is specific to the Jewish people? Some are saved through that time of the great tribulation. Nick;
After the woman is caught away the devil makes war with the remnant of her seed which have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The proposal of natural Israel is false doctrine. It is a lie which has caused the church to fall asleep. Moreover, it contradicts all the parables Christ taught his disciples in Mathew 24:36 through Mathew 25:30.
Jesus made it clear what the status of the natural Jews was in Mathew 23:1-39.
Steven
Hi Steve,
Since it is the second half of the tribulation those in Christ will not be here but with him.Hi Steve,
Since it is the second half of the tribulation those in Christ will not be here but with him.Nick;
Jesus never spoke of a first and second half of the tribulation. This is man's doctrine.
Steven
Hi Steve,
I am not teaching but wanting to learn when it comes to prophecy so all options are always on the table.How often does three and a half years,
1260 days/ 1280 days,
Three and a half days,
time, time and time and a half,
appear in Revelation?I believe they all relate to the same time and we need to use them as a tool to understand Revelation.
Nick;
I agree that we should not be dogmatic with respect to much that is written in Revelation due to how it is written.
Another place is Chapter 11. Where it is said do not measure the temple that is without because it is given unto the gentiles to trod under foot for forty two months. He tells him to measure the temple and the altar where those which are therein are worshipping. The temple that is without are those in the outercourt. They are in the temple but in the outercourt, which represents Christians that proclaim they are believers but are not entering in to the holy place and worshipping God, probably lukewarm. I believe the two witnesses and the 144,000 and the manchild represents the same company of believers.
Steven
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