The Urantia Book The Bible

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Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,21:20)

Hi Colter, I remember reading that part. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

So it seems that what atheist argue is mans natural reaction to the unknown is actually an ingrained mechanism to carry man to a place where he can begin to receive genuine revelation.

BTW, I've debated “Stu” for years, all over the net, he's deaf and blind.

In your discussion of a source of energy for creation, for a beginning, science has recently drawn mathematical conclusions that validate the UB's assertion that the universe “respirates” as apposed to just expands from a “big bang”. Further, these scientist now speculate that there was an “ultraverse” from which the material universe originated.

If you recall the UB teaches that the created universe that we know came from the eternal isle of paradise which is the incubator pattern for the reset of the universe; the source of energy.

Colter

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 25 2012,06:02)

Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,15:45) Quote (Wakeup @ July 24 2012,22:24) Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2012,13:05) Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,20:03) He claimed divinity while on earth in the Bible. I don't know of that scripture off hand, but how would a divine being BECOMING flesh prohibit him from being divine? Like I said, neither of our understandings make a distinction on this matter, so I'm not sure why you would ask that question. MikeB. Jesus was without sin;you can say that he is the chief saint, on earth,he is our big brother saint. Saints are the ones sanctified; made clean,Holy. We also ; if we walk with Christ,we are saints. There are saints here on earth today; when the false prophet comes to rule,he will make war with the saints,and kill some. Rev20:6. —-they shall be priests of God and Christ,and shall reign with him a1000yrs. Re' the soul: We have the light bulb; and the electricity(power). The soul is the light it gives out. When the bulb is finished;the power goes back to the power station, but the light it gives during the life of the bulb is preserved,and in the resurrection it will be given power it self. Some bulbs shines brighter than others,all according to measure.The 24 elders in rev,4:4. are our chief saints,under Christ,with crowns on their heads. wakeup. wakeup Quote Jesus was without sin;you can say that he is the chief saint, on earth,he is our big brother saint. Saints are the ones sanctified; made clean,Holy. the first few words are true ;Jesus was without sin;but the only reason for it is that he is born through the will of God and was the first creation of God he changed him into a man to pay the prize of our sins ,if he would not be this ;then he could not save us because he would have been born under the curse of dead by Adam ,: all die in Adam and all are brought a live through Christ for this Christ at to be some thing more than a man he was a spirit of live,HE HIS THE WORD OF GOD AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON Terra. Which of my words are not true?state your case. wakeup.

wakeup

I have already answered you

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Revelation 4:4

“Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.”

THE FOUR AND TWENTY COUNSELORS

45:4.1 At the center of the seven angelic residential circles on Jerusem is located the headquarters of the Urantia advisory council, the four and twenty counselors. John the Revelator called them the four and twenty elders: “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats, and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment.” The throne in the center of this group is the judgment seat of the presiding archangel, the throne of the resurrection roll call of mercy and justice for all Satania. This judgment seat has always been on Jerusem, but the twenty-four surrounding seats were placed in position no more than nineteen hundred years ago, soon after Christ Michael was elevated to the full sovereignty of Nebadon. These four and twenty counselors are his personal agents on Jerusem, and they have authority to represent the Master Son in all matters concerning the roll calls of Satania and in many other phases of the scheme of mortal ascension on the isolated worlds of the system. They are the designated agents for executing the special requests of Gabriel and the unusual mandates of Michael.

45:4.2 These twenty-four counselors have been recruited from the eight Urantia races, and the last of this group were assembled at the time of the resurrection roll call of Michael, nineteen hundred years ago. This Urantia advisory council is made up of the following members:

45:4.3 1. Onagar, the master mind of the pre-Planetary Prince age, who directed his fellows in the worship of “The Breath Giver.”

45:4.4 2. Mansant, the great teacher of the post-Planetary Prince age on Urantia, who pointed his fellows to the veneration of “The Great Light.”

45:4.5 3. Onamonalonton, a far-distant leader of the red man and the one who directed this race from the worship of many gods to the veneration of “The Great Spirit.”

45:4.6 4. Orlandof, a prince of the blue men and their leader in the recognition of the divinity of “The Supreme Chief.”

45:4.7 5. Porshunta, the oracle of the extinct orange race and the leader of this people in the worship of “The Great Teacher.”

45:4.8 6. Singlangton, the first of the yellow men to teach and lead his people in the worship of “One Truth” instead of many. Thousands of years ago the yellow man knew of the one God.

45:4.9 7. Fantad, the deliverer of the green men from darkness and their leader in the worship of “The One Source of Life.”

45:4.10 8. Orvonon, the enlightener of the indigo races and their leader in the onetime service of “The God of Gods.”

45:4.11 9. Adam, the discredited but rehabilitated planetary father of Urantia, a Material Son of God who was relegated to the likeness of mortal flesh, but who survived and was subsequently elevated to this position by the decree of Michael.

45:4.12 10. Eve, the mother of the violet race of Urantia, who suffered the penalty of default with her mate and was also rehabilitated with him and assigned to serve with this group of mortal survivors.

45:4.13 11. Enoch, the first of the mortals of Urantia to fuse with the Thought Adjuster during the mortal life in the flesh.

45:4.14 12. Moses, the emancipator of a remnant of the submerged violet race and the instigator of the revival of the worship of the Universal Father under the name of “The God of Israel.”

45:4.15 13. Elijah, a translated soul of brilliant spiritual achievement during the post-Material Son age.

45:4.16 14. Machiventa Melchizedek, the only Son of this order to bestow himself upon the Urantia races. While still numbered as a Melchizedek, he has become “forever a minister of the Most Highs,” eternally assuming the assignment of service as a mortal ascender, having sojourned on Urantia in the likeness of mortal flesh at Salem in the days of Abraham. This Melchizedek has latterly been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia with headquarters on Jerusem and authority to act in behalf of Michael, who is actually the Planetary Prince of the world whereon he experienced his terminal bestowal in human form. Notwithstanding this, Urantia is still supervised by successive resident governors general, members of the four and twenty counselors.

45:4.17 15. John the Baptist, the forerunner of Michael’s mission on Urantia and, in the flesh, distant cousin of the Son of Man.

45:4.18 16. 1-2-3 the first, the leader of the loyal midway creatures in the service of Gabriel at the time of the Caligastia betrayal, elevated to this position by Michael soon after his entrance upon unconditioned sovereignty.

45:4.19 These selected personalities are exempt from the ascension regime for the time being, on Gabriel’s request, and we have no idea how long they may serve in this capacity.

45:4.20 Seats numbers 17, 18, 19, and 20 are not permanently occupied. They are temporarily filled by the unanimous consent of the sixteen permanent members, being kept open for later assignment to ascending mortals from the present postbestowal Son age on Urantia.

45:4.21 Numbers 21, 22, 23, and 24 are likewise temporarily filled while being held in reserve for the great teachers of other and subsequent ages which undoubtedly will follow the present age. Eras of the Magisterial Sons and Teacher Sons and the ages of light and life are to be anticipated on Urantia, regardless of unexpected visitations of divine Sons which may or may not occur.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,23:10)

Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,21:20) Hi Colter, I remember reading that part. God bless Ed J Hi Ed, So it seems that what atheist argue is mans natural reaction to the unknown is actually an ingrained mechanism to carry man to a place where he can begin to receive genuine revelation. BTW, I've debated “Stu” for years, all over the net, he's deaf and blind. In your discussion of a source of energy for creation, for a beginning, science has recently drawn mathematical conclusions that validate the UB's assertion that the universe “respirates” as apposed to just expands from a “big bang”. Further, these scientist now speculate that there was an “ultraverse” from which the material universe originated. If you recall the UB teaches that the created universe that we know came from the eternal isle of paradise which is the incubator pattern for the reset of the universe; the source of energy. Colter

Hi Colter,

I remember reading that as well.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,05:07)

Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,23:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,21:20) Hi Colter, I remember reading that part. God bless Ed J Hi Ed, So it seems that what atheist argue is mans natural reaction to the unknown is actually an ingrained mechanism to carry man to a place where he can begin to receive genuine revelation. BTW, I've debated “Stu” for years, all over the net, he's deaf and blind. In your discussion of a source of energy for creation, for a beginning, science has recently drawn mathematical conclusions that validate the UB's assertion that the universe “respirates” as apposed to just expands from a “big bang”. Further, these scientist now speculate that there was an “ultraverse” from which the material universe originated. If you recall the UB teaches that the created universe that we know came from the eternal isle of paradise which is the incubator pattern for the reset of the universe; the source of energy. Colter Hi Colter, I remember reading that as well. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

Did you read this?

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ July 25 2012,01:12)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 25 2012,06:02) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,15:45) Quote (Wakeup @ July 24 2012,22:24) Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2012,13:05) Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,20:03) He claimed divinity while on earth in the Bible. I don't know of that scripture off hand, but how would a divine being BECOMING flesh prohibit him from being divine? Like I said, neither of our understandings make a distinction on this matter, so I'm not sure why you would ask that question. MikeB. Jesus was without sin;you can say that he is the chief saint, on earth,he is our big brother saint. Saints are the ones sanctified; made clean,Holy. We also ; if we walk with Christ,we are saints. There are saints here on earth today; when the false prophet comes to rule,he will make war with the saints,and kill some. Rev20:6. —-they shall be priests of God and Christ,and shall reign with him a1000yrs. Re' the soul: We have the light bulb; and the electricity(power). The soul is the light it gives out. When the bulb is finished;the power goes back to the power station, but the light it gives during the life of the bulb is preserved,and in the resurrection it will be given power it self. Some bulbs shines brighter than others,all according to measure.The 24 elders in rev,4:4. are our chief saints,under Christ,with crowns on their heads. wakeup. wakeup Quote Jesus was without sin;you can say that he is the chief saint, on earth,he is our big brother saint. Saints are the ones sanctified; made clean,Holy. the first few words are true ;Jesus was without sin;but the only reason for it is that he is born through the will of God and was the first creation of God he changed him into a man to pay the prize of our sins ,if he would not be this ;then he could not save us because he would have been born under the curse of dead by Adam ,: all die in Adam and all are brought a live through Christ for this Christ at to be some thing more than a man he was a spirit of live,HE HIS THE WORD OF GOD AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON Terra. Which of my words are not true?state your case. wakeup. wakeup I have already answered you

Terra.

Are you hiding your light under bushel?
Are you keeping all your knowledge that is given to you freely;and keeping it to yourself?

wakeup.

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wakeup
my answer;

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the first few words are true ;Jesus was without sin;but the only reason for it is that he is born through the will of God and was the first creation of God he changed him into a man to pay the prize of our sins ,if he would not be this ;then he could not save us because he would have been born under the curse of dead by Adam ,: all die in Adam and all are brought a live through Christ for this Christ at to be some thing more than a man he was a spirit of live,HE HIS THE WORD OF GOD AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON

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you can say that he is the chief saint, on earth,he is our big brother saint. Saints are the ones sanctified; made clean,Holy.

how vague is this is Christ a SAINT is Christ our big brother or only the brother of the 144k,??? so not of the great crowed in Revelation,

yes Saints are specially called by Christ ,and yes they have been cleaned by him through his sacrifice ,BUT THEY HAVE BEEN CALLED

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,05:17)

Hi Ed, Did you read this? Colter

Hi Colter,

No, but reading it reminded me of this verse…

1 John 4:20-21 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,08:42)

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,05:17) Hi Ed, Did you read this? Colter Hi Colter, No, but reading it reminded me of this verse… 1 John 4:20-21 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Not sure what provoked that comparison, there isn't anything about hating your brother in the link.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,08:55)

Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,08:42) Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,05:17) Hi Ed, Did you read this? Colter Hi Colter, No, but reading it reminded me of this verse… 1 John 4:20-21 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. God bless Ed J Not sure what provoked  that comparison, there isn't anything about hating your brother in the link. Colter

Hi Colter,

Does not discontinuity not effect hostility within the body of Christ?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:28)

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,08:55) Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,08:42) Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,05:17) Hi Ed, Did you read this? Colter Hi Colter, No, but reading it reminded me of this verse… 1 John 4:20-21 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. God bless Ed J Not sure what provoked  that comparison, there isn't anything about hating your brother in the link. Colter Hi Colter, Does not discontinuity not effect hostility within the body of Christ? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

The body of Christ is a false contract, Jesus never used such a term as that, he established the “kingdom of heaven”.

But discontinuity doesn’t mean hostility, at least not in the same way that the Christians treat each other on this forum or those they don't agree with.

103:5.12 When a member of a social religious group has complied with the requirements of such a group, he should be encouraged to enjoy religious liberty in the full expression of his own personal interpretation of the truths of religious belief and the facts of religious experience. The security of a religious group depends on spiritual unity, not on theological uniformity. A religious group should be able to enjoy the liberty of freethinking without having to become “freethinkers.” There is great hope for any church that worships the living God, validates the brotherhood of man, and dares to remove all creedal pressure from its members.

155:6.9 The religions of authority can only divide men and set them in conscientious array against each other; the religion of the spirit will progressively draw men together and cause them to become understandingly sympathetic with one another. The religions of authority require of men uniformity in belief, but this is impossible of realization in the present state of the world. The religion of the spirit requires only unity of experience — uniformity of destiny — making full allowance for diversity of belief. The religion of the spirit requires only uniformity of insight, not uniformity of viewpoint and outlook. The religion of the spirit does not demand uniformity of intellectual views, only unity of spirit feeling. The religions of authority crystallize into lifeless creeds; the religion of the spirit grows into the increasing joy and liberty of ennobling deeds of loving service and merciful ministration.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,09:45)

The body of Christ is a false contract

Hi Colter,

What do YOU mean?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:55)

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,09:45) The body of Christ is a false contract Hi Colter, What do YOU mean? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

That should read “a false construct”, the social, authoritative organization of the church became a substitute for the “kingdom of heaven” concept that Jesus had sought to establish.

As for discontinuity, Jesus did not desire that we all think alike or see alike. Doctrine formation is of the same flavour of evil that beset the legalistic Jews.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,09:45)

The body of Christ is a false contract

Hi Colter,

“Ye are the body of Christ” (1 Cor 12:27)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,12:37)

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,09:45) The body of Christ is a false contract Hi Colter, “Ye are the body of Christ” (1 Cor 12:27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

That's from a letter written by Paul, not Jesus. But even Paul's letters were made into a fetish.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,21:08)

Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,12:37) Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,09:45) The body of Christ is a false contract Hi Colter, “Ye are the body of Christ” (1 Cor 12:27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That's from a letter written by Paul, not Jesus. But even Paul's letters were made into a fetish. Colter

Hi Colter,

You don't consider God's word to be sacred?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,21:25)

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,21:08) Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,12:37) Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,09:45) The body of Christ is a false contract Hi Colter, “Ye are the body of Christ” (1 Cor 12:27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That's from a letter written by Paul, not Jesus. But even Paul's letters were made into a fetish. Colter Hi Colter, You don't consider God's word to be sacred? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Gods Word is living, those were Paul's words, is he now a God also?

Colter

[Ed J]

Hi Colter,

Where is God's word living at?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,22:04)

Hi Colter, Where is God's word living at? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

In his will.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ July 25 2012,22:47)

Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,22:04) Hi Colter, Where is God's word living at? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org In his will. Colter

And where is his will located?

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