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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,07:31)

YOU MUST BELIEVE

EDJ.

You muat be that man with great lying wonders and miracles.

wakeup.

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THE NATURE OF GOD

2:0.1 INASMUCH AS MAN'S highest possible concept of God is embraced within the human idea and ideal of a primal and infinite personality, it is permissible, and may prove helpful, to study certain characteristics of the divine nature which constitute the character of Deity. The nature of God can best be understood by the revelation of the Father which Michael of Nebadon unfolded in his manifold teachings and in his superb mortal life in the flesh. The divine nature can also be better understood by man if he regards himself as a child of God and looks up to the Paradise Creator as a true spiritual Father.

2:0.2 The nature of God can be studied in a revelation of supreme ideas, the divine character can be envisaged as a portrayal of supernal ideals, but the most enlightening and spiritually edifying of all revelations of the divine nature is to be found in the comprehension of the religious life of Jesus of Nazareth, both before and after his attainment of full consciousness of divinity. If the incarnated life of Michael is taken as the background of the revelation of God to man, we may attempt to put in human word symbols certain ideas and ideals concerning the divine nature which may possibly contribute to a further illumination and unification of the human concept of the nature and the character of the personality of the Universal Father

2:0.3 In all our efforts to enlarge and spiritualize the human concept of God, we are tremendously handicapped by the limited capacity of the mortal mind. We are also seriously handicapped in the execution of our assignment by the limitations of language and by the poverty of material which can be utilized for purposes of illustration or comparison in our efforts to portray divine values and to present spiritual meanings to the finite, mortal mind of man. All our efforts to enlarge the human concept of God would be well-nigh futile except for the fact that the mortal mind is indwelt by the bestowed Adjuster of the Universal Father and is pervaded by the Truth Spirit of the Creator Son. Depending, therefore, on the presence of these divine spirits within the heart of man for assistance in the enlargement of the concept of God, I cheerfully undertake the execution of my mandate to attempt the further portrayal of the nature of God to the mind of man.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 30 2012,00:25)

EDJ. You muat be that man with great lying wonders and miracles. wakeup.

Huh?

[Ed J]

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,07:31) YOU MUST BELIEVE EdJ. Dont you think you are doing the same thing with your links? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

No; why, are my links hypnotizing you?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie?

this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front ,

but this shows that the UB is crap and men made ,

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:44)

ed Quote Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie? this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front , but this shows that the UB is crap and men made ,

(1143.6) 104:1.3 The third presentation of the Trinity was made by Machiventa Melchizedek, and this doctrine was symbolized by the three concentric circles which the sage of Salem wore on his breast plate. But Machiventa found it very difficult to teach the Palestinian Bedouins about the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. Most of his disciples thought that the Trinity consisted of the three Most Highs of Norlatiadek; a few conceived of the Trinity as the System Sovereign, the Constellation Father, and the local universe Creator Deity; still fewer even remotely grasped the idea of the Paradise association of the Father, Son, and Spirit.

Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,11:52)

Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter

Hi Colter,

Jesus said that because – though those men were responsible,
still his crucifixion was necessary for their salvation; and those
men didn't know that they were helping fulfill the father's will.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,18:52)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:44) ed Quote Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie? this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front , but this shows that the UB is crap and men made , (1143.6) 104:1.3 The third presentation of the Trinity was made by Machiventa Melchizedek, and this doctrine was symbolized by the three concentric circles which the sage of Salem wore on his breast plate. But Machiventa found it very difficult to teach the Palestinian Bedouins about the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. Most of his disciples thought that the Trinity consisted of the three Most Highs of Norlatiadek; a few conceived of the Trinity as the System Sovereign, the Constellation Father, and the local universe Creator Deity; still fewer even remotely grasped the idea of the Paradise association of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter

Colter

any symbol in your Christian faith and it is not Christian any longer,

your UB is as far from the truth that could be ,it is because you have another reason to believe that stuff ,but it does not change the fact that it is men made religion .

Koran,the book of Mormon the same thing all false ,men made

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,12:09)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,11:52) Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Hi Colter, Jesus said that because – though those men were responsible, still his crucifixion was necessary for their salvation; and those men didn't know that they were helping fulfill the father's will. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org

Jesus was, even on the torturous cross, extending forgiveness to his persecutors.

The voluntary death of Jesus wasn't necessary for the salvation of man, he had already been preaching salvation via faith based spiritual rebirth already.

The voluntary death experience of Jesus on the cross was the will of the Father for his creator Son to achieve final sovereign authority over his own co-created universe; “all power and authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me”.

Jesus passed through all that man is asked to pass through, and he did it perfectly.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,13:45)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,12:09) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,11:52) Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Hi Colter, Jesus said that because – though those men were responsible, still his crucifixion was necessary for their salvation; and those men didn't know that they were helping fulfill the father's will. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org Jesus was, even on the torturous cross, extending forgiveness to his persecutors. The voluntary death of Jesus wasn't necessary for the salvation of man, he had already been preaching salvation via faith based spiritual rebirth already. The voluntary death experience of Jesus on the cross was the will of the Father for his creator Son to achieve final sovereign authority over his own co-created universe; “all power and authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me”. Jesus passed through all that man is asked to pass through, and he did it perfectly. Colter

Without the shedding of blood – there is no remission of sins. (see Heb 9:22)

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,18:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:44) ed Quote Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie? this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front , but this shows that the UB is crap and men made , (1143.6) 104:1.3 The third presentation of the Trinity was made by Machiventa Melchizedek, and this doctrine was symbolized by the three concentric circles which the sage of Salem wore on his breast plate. But Machiventa found it very difficult to teach the Palestinian Bedouins about the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. Most of his disciples thought that the Trinity consisted of the three Most Highs of Norlatiadek; a few conceived of the Trinity as the System Sovereign, the Constellation Father, and the local universe Creator Deity; still fewer even remotely grasped the idea of the Paradise association of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Colter any symbol in your Christian faith and it is not Christian any longer, your UB is as far from the truth that could be ,it is because you have another reason to believe that stuff ,but it does not change the fact that it is men made religion . Koran,the book of Mormon the same thing all false ,men made

I'm not a Christian, I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. I follow the religion that he preached and practised.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,13:51)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,13:45) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,12:09) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,11:52) Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Hi Colter, Jesus said that because – though those men were responsible, still his crucifixion was necessary for their salvation; and those men didn't know that they were helping fulfill the father's will. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org Jesus was, even on the torturous cross, extending forgiveness to his persecutors. The voluntary death of Jesus wasn't necessary for the salvation of man, he had already been preaching salvation via faith based spiritual rebirth already. The voluntary death experience of Jesus on the cross was the will of the Father for his creator Son to achieve final sovereign authority over his own co-created universe; “all power and authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me”. Jesus passed through all that man is asked to pass through, and he did it perfectly. Colter Without the shedding of blood – there is no remission of sins. (see Heb 9:22)

“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son,
much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.” (Romans 5:8-10)

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,13:51)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,13:45) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,12:09) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,11:52) Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Hi Colter, Jesus said that because – though those men were responsible, still his crucifixion was necessary for their salvation; and those men didn't know that they were helping fulfill the father's will. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org Jesus was, even on the torturous cross, extending forgiveness to his persecutors. The voluntary death of Jesus wasn't necessary for the salvation of man, he had already been preaching salvation via faith based spiritual rebirth already. The voluntary death experience of Jesus on the cross was the will of the Father for his creator Son to achieve final sovereign authority over his own co-created universe; “all power and authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me”. Jesus passed through all that man is asked to pass through, and he did it perfectly. Colter Without the shedding of blood – there is no remission of sins. (see Heb 9:22)

Pagan remix, not taught by Jesus. Jesus taught forgiveness by faith. Self centred man, who finds the original gospel to difficult, prefers theoretical salvation based on human sacrifice.

Colter

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,13:54)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,13:51) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,13:45) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,12:09) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,11:52) Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Hi Colter, Jesus said that because – though those men were responsible, still his crucifixion was necessary for their salvation; and those men didn't know that they were helping fulfill the father's will. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org Jesus was, even on the torturous cross, extending forgiveness to his persecutors. The voluntary death of Jesus wasn't necessary for the salvation of man, he had already been preaching salvation via faith based spiritual rebirth already. The voluntary death experience of Jesus on the cross was the will of the Father for his creator Son to achieve final sovereign authority over his own co-created universe; “all power and authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me”. Jesus passed through all that man is asked to pass through, and he did it perfectly. Colter Without the shedding of blood – there is no remission of sins. (see Heb 9:22) “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.” (Romans 5:8-10)

Paul brought those Pagan ideas into his new Christian religion about Jesus. Paul barged in an set the tone for evolving Christian theology. You can follow Paul that is your choice, I will follow Jesus; Christ Michael.

Colter

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,12:14) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,18:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:44) ed Quote Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie? this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front , but this shows that the UB is crap and men made , (1143.6) 104:1.3 The third presentation of the Trinity was made by Machiventa Melchizedek, and this doctrine was symbolized by the three concentric circles which the sage of Salem wore on his breast plate. But Machiventa found it very difficult to teach the Palestinian Bedouins about the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. Most of his disciples thought that the Trinity consisted of the three Most Highs of Norlatiadek; a few conceived of the Trinity as the System Sovereign, the Constellation Father, and the local universe Creator Deity; still fewer even remotely grasped the idea of the Paradise association of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Colter any symbol in your Christian faith and it is not Christian any longer, your UB is as far from the truth that could be ,it is because you have another reason to believe that stuff ,but it does not change the fact that it is men made religion . Koran,the book of Mormon the same thing all false ,men made I'm not a Christian, I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. I follow the religion that he preached and practised. Colter

Colter

How can you follow Jesus Chrit ,wen he teaches the worship in and by the spirit ,and you using symbols this is a contradictions

And a symbol made by men,no sense at all

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,13:54)

I'm not a Christian, I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. I follow the religion that he preached and practised. Colter

Hi Colter,

Which is spelled out in the Urantia book; right?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,16:05)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,13:54) I'm not a Christian, I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. I follow the religion that he preached and practised. Colter Hi Colter, Which is spelled out in the Urantia book; right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Actually , you can see it in the Bible, Jesus preached a gospel of salvation 3+ years before the cross, before even his apostles knew he was leaving. That gospel wasn't sacrificial salvation. Jesus didn't go to the temple and kill small animals as a sin offering. He didn't define his death as a sin offering, he taught forgiveness and salvation by fait, personal ongoing transformation, not theoretical substitution theory.

Jesus left the assumptions of primitive men in that day to serve as a bridge to an age where men could more fully comprehend the spiritual nature of his life mission on earth.

Many enlightened Christians have also repudiated blood sacrifice.

But certainly the UB revelation greatly illuminates where the contradictions and contaminations came from; the new wine was put into the old wine skins.

Colter

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,14:02)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,20:54) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,12:14) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,18:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:44) ed Quote Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie? this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front , but this shows that the UB is crap and men made , (1143.6) 104:1.3 The third presentation of the Trinity was made by Machiventa Melchizedek, and this doctrine was symbolized by the three concentric circles which the sage of Salem wore on his breast plate. But Machiventa found it very difficult to teach the Palestinian Bedouins about the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. Most of his disciples thought that the Trinity consisted of the three Most Highs of Norlatiadek; a few conceived of the Trinity as the System Sovereign, the Constellation Father, and the local universe Creator Deity; still fewer even remotely grasped the idea of the Paradise association of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Colter any symbol in your Christian faith and it is not Christian any longer, your UB is as far from the truth that could be ,it is because you have another reason to believe that stuff ,but it does not change the fact that it is men made religion . Koran,the book of Mormon the same thing all false ,men made I'm not a Christian, I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. I follow the religion that he preached and practised. Colter Colter   How can you follow Jesus Chrit ,wen he teaches the worship in and by the spirit ,and you using symbols this is a contradictions And a symbol made by men,no sense at all

I'm not using symbols, Ed made that as a childish ridicule of the UB.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 31 2012,05:36)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,14:02) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,20:54) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,12:14) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,18:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:44) ed Quote Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie? this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front , but this shows that the UB is crap and men made , (1143.6) 104:1.3 The third presentation of the Trinity was made by Machiventa Melchizedek, and this doctrine was symbolized by the three concentric circles which the sage of Salem wore on his breast plate. But Machiventa found it very difficult to teach the Palestinian Bedouins about the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. Most of his disciples thought that the Trinity consisted of the three Most Highs of Norlatiadek; a few conceived of the Trinity as the System Sovereign, the Constellation Father, and the local universe Creator Deity; still fewer even remotely grasped the idea of the Paradise association of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Colter any symbol in your Christian faith and it is not Christian any longer, your UB is as far from the truth that could be ,it is because you have another reason to believe that stuff ,but it does not change the fact that it is men made religion . Koran,the book of Mormon the same thing all false ,men made I'm not a Christian, I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. I follow the religion that he preached and practised. Colter Colter   How can you follow Jesus Chrit ,wen he teaches the worship in and by the spirit ,and you using symbols this is a contradictions And a symbol made by men,no sense at all I'm not using symbols, Ed made that as a childish ridicule of the UB. Colter

colter

so you do not use that blue ring

and it is edj confusion that shows up

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,22:53)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 31 2012,05:36) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,14:02) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,20:54) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,12:14) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 30 2012,18:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:44) ed Quote Do they have this UB symbol in the jungle book movie? this is the symbol of hypnotism except I believe the color is not blue and it turns rather than going from back to front , but this shows that the UB is crap and men made , (1143.6) 104:1.3 The third presentation of the Trinity was made by Machiventa Melchizedek, and this doctrine was symbolized by the three concentric circles which the sage of Salem wore on his breast plate. But Machiventa found it very difficult to teach the Palestinian Bedouins about the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. Most of his disciples thought that the Trinity consisted of the three Most Highs of Norlatiadek; a few conceived of the Trinity as the System Sovereign, the Constellation Father, and the local universe Creator Deity; still fewer even remotely grasped the idea of the Paradise association of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. Colter Colter any symbol in your Christian faith and it is not Christian any longer, your UB is as far from the truth that could be ,it is because you have another reason to believe that stuff ,but it does not change the fact that it is men made religion . Koran,the book of Mormon the same thing all false ,men made I'm not a Christian, I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. I follow the religion that he preached and practised. Colter Colter   How can you follow Jesus Chrit ,wen he teaches the worship in and by the spirit ,and you using symbols this is a contradictions And a symbol made by men,no sense at all I'm not using symbols, Ed made that as a childish ridicule of the UB. Colter colter so you do not use that blue ring and it is edj  confusion that shows up

yep! It's just Christ Michael's flag. It dosn't “do” anything.

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