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- June 16, 2008 at 3:09 pm#93015ShaniaParticipant
So the steward did this for others and that was his way back?
June 16, 2008 at 5:44 pm#93026NickHassanParticipantHi shania,
He had been given authority over the goods that belonged to his Master.
He used that authority to be generous with those goods.June 16, 2008 at 8:41 pm#93049ShaniaParticipantHow was he generous with those goods? [thank you for being patient with me]
June 16, 2008 at 8:58 pm#93052NickHassanParticipantHi shania,
3Then the steward said within himself, What shall I do? for my lord taketh away from me the stewardship: I cannot dig; to beg I am ashamed.4I am resolved what to do, that, when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses.
5So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first, How much owest thou unto my lord?
6And he said, An hundred measures of oil. And he said unto him, Take thy bill, and sit down quickly, and write fifty.
7Then said he to another, And how much owest thou? And he said, An hundred measures of wheat. And he said unto him, Take thy bill, and write fourscore.
8And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
If releasing debt is as forgiveness of sin then it can be read as spreading the gospel.
But is it related to almsgiving in the context given us?June 16, 2008 at 8:59 pm#93054JPRParticipantHi all, what I got out of that parrable is based on two assumptions:
1.Reducing debt was not contrary to the job description of the steward at the time. My impression came from old testament scripture on the concept of “redemption” (Stongs number: H1350 gaw-al גּאל gâ'al) It is confirmed by the fact that the master in the story, as well as Christ, commended the steward.
2.Money (Mamon) is an “unfair” system; by that I believe Christ meant a system based on merit instead of grace. Money reflects the “root of all evil” and is based on conditional earning whilst Christ’ message is founded in the principle of giving from love. (Undeservedly)
Therefor my message from Chist on this parable was:
1.By writing off debt (being faithfull with unrighteous mammon), He will entrust me with forgiving of sin. (He will entrust me with writing off sin which ≈ true riches) I duly wrote off all debt owed to me from that point onwards and hasn’t “handed any debtors over” for debt collection since receiving this message from my Master.
2.I must be quick to add; I don’t think Christians in the corporate world of today, should write of their masters debt now as this is not part of modern day policies and it would clash with other Godly instructions e.g. obeying of your masters.June 17, 2008 at 5:04 am#93112ShaniaParticipantOk JPR, so you are saying that this practice was normal and ok in the time and culture? That makes a bit more sense…
Nick, I am still having trouble grasping the concepts that you are bringing forth. Again, I appreiciate your patience. I am not trying to force you to go around in circles.
June 17, 2008 at 5:06 am#93113NickHassanParticipantHi shania,
Just a fellow searcher.July 17, 2008 at 7:04 pm#98001NickHassanParticipantHi,
Perhaps this is the true meaning of the parable?1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.July 18, 2008 at 12:21 am#98043ShaniaParticipantMatt 9:6
6 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. .
NIVMatt 9:8
8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to men.
NIVJohn 20:22-23
22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”
NIV2 Cor 2:9-11
10 If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And what I have forgiven — if there was anything to forgive — I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, 11 in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.
NIVDo these verses fit?
July 18, 2008 at 1:14 am#98047NickHassanParticipantAmen,
What we are given we give.April 16, 2012 at 7:34 pm#292802NickHassanParticipantHi,
Here is another blessing and a warning for the stewards of the Lord.
Lk 12 42And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
43Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
44Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
45But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
May 6, 2014 at 8:07 am#380793NickHassanParticipantHi,
If you have failed in your mission to be an overcomer bring others to the wedding feast
Then you will be welcomed there - AuthorPosts
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