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Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire
Rev 17:17 For God has put it in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of god shall be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Jeremiah 51:6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompense.
Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
The woman represents Babylon, and Babylon is that unholy city (the world) and we know that Babylon exists today……
So how can the 10 horns eat the whores flesh, make her desolate and naked, and also burn her with fire when the 10 horns belong to her and are a part of her (babylon) ?
REV 17:14 “These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”
REV 17:8 “ The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come.
answer these verse first; who is the beast
wen was the beast alive who is the whore that sits on it when did the beast wage war against the Lamb???, and when did the Lamb over come them,????and why is the book of live mention and a few moreQuote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2012,00:22) Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire Rev 17:17 For God has put it in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of god shall be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Jeremiah 51:6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompense.
Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
The woman represents Babylon, and Babylon is that unholy city (the world) and we know that Babylon exists today……
So how can the 10 horns eat the whores flesh, make her desolate and naked, and also burn her with fire when the 10 horns belong to her and are a part of her (babylon) ?
Hi Georgie,According to Malachi Martin's Prophecy,
the next Pope after Ratzinger will be the last.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,06:44) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2012,00:22) Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire Rev 17:17 For God has put it in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of god shall be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Jeremiah 51:6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompense.
Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
The woman represents Babylon, and Babylon is that unholy city (the world) and we know that Babylon exists today……
So how can the 10 horns eat the whores flesh, make her desolate and naked, and also burn her with fire when the 10 horns belong to her and are a part of her (babylon) ?
Hi Georgie,According to Malachi Martin's Prophecy,
the next Pope after Ratzinger will be the last.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.According to the scriptures,is what counts.(not some persons doctrine).
The scriptures clearly says; the little horn is the one that is going to wage war against God.
Rev. 17:14. and these shall make war with the lamb—-
the 10 kings and the little horn.(the big boss).The pope will never wage war with the Lamb.It does not compute.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,
It is possible that the mulims might attack Vatican city.
This might be how the next Pope is the last Pope.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,11:00) Hi Wake-up, It is possible that the mulims might attack Vatican city.
This might be how the next Pope is the last Pope.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Please,no maybe,s.
The 10 horns are going to make the whore naked, eat her flesh,and burn her with fire.(rev.17:16.).
How come?
The 10 horns are doing it right now; bankrupting the whole system, to make way for a new system. And is going to close down all places of worship to make way for the false prophet,to be worshipped.
THE MAN IS DIFFERENT.
Dan.8:23. he will have a fierce countenance,and understanding dark sentences.
he will have the power of satan.Dan.11:36. he will exalt himself above every God.
dan11;37. He will have no desire of women (any religion).
Just worship him and his image.(like daniels friends was forced to worship the image,but they refused.).Dan. 7:24. He shall be diverse from the first(the 10).
We will have no propblem recognising him.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 29 2012,12:32) Dan.11:36. he will exalt himself above every God.
dan11;37. He will have no desire of women (any religion).
Just worship him and his image.(like daniels friends was forced to worship the image,but they refused.).wakeup.
The evidence is quite clear, islam is the spirit of antichrist…Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
(3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.This can only be about islam (Rev.13:11,18)
and his god 'al-Lah'; wakeup! (Eph.5:14)1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
6. When were the prophets over with?
7. Who do they say has no Son?1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)(7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
with our spirit, that we are the children of God.B'shem
YHVHQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2012,11:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 29 2012,12:32) Dan.11:36. he will exalt himself above every God.
dan11;37. He will have no desire of women (any religion).
Just worship him and his image.(like daniels friends was forced to worship the image,but they refused.).wakeup.
The evidence is quite clear, islam is the spirit of antichrist…Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
(3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.This can only be about islam (Rev.13:11,18)
and his god 'al-Lah'; wakeup! (Eph.5:14)1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
6. When were the prophets over with?
7. Who do they say has no Son?1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)(7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
with our spirit, that we are the children of God.B'shem
YHVH
EDJ.Please, the scripture says that he will disregard all the gods of his fathers,and that includes al-lah.
HE HIMSELF IS GOD,AND HIS POWER AND RICHES.We are not discussing anti christs here,but THE FALSE PROPHET.For anti Christs are many.
wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2012,05:54)
Excuse me Pierre…Tell me, are those two verses above that you quoted from revelation ch 17….are they taken from the NIV bible?
Quote (Devolution @ April 01 2012,12:57) terraricca,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Excuse me Pierre…Tell me, are those two verses above that you quoted from revelation ch 17….are they taken from the NIV bible?
yesQuote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,05:58)
Thank you Pierre,I want to bring something to your attention if you will bear with me…
Can you please quote all of revelation 13:1
i am not going to mock you, i just want to share with you, in the spirit of peace, something alarming within that verse…
Something i think you should be made aware of…that you might not have picked up on yet…
Quote (Devolution @ April 01 2012,13:06) terraricca,April wrote:[/quote]
Thank you Pierre,I want to bring something to your attention if you will bear with me…
Can you please quote all of revelation 13:1
i am not going to mock you, i just want to share with you, in the spirit of peace, something alarming within that verse…
Something i think you should be made aware of…that you might not have picked up on yet…
devAnd I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,06:13)
Thanks Pierre,The reason i asked is this…
When i read those two verses you quoted from revelation ch 17, i saw something that contradicted.
So, on a hunch, i did an online search in the New international NIV concerning rev 17:8.
And what you quoted almost matches it perfectly…enough so, as for me to conclude you were using the same version…maybe just the one prior the new international?So that being the case, i asked you to quote rev 13:1 out of curiosity…but your 13:1, at least, is different to what i'm about to quote..
Yet your NIV 17:8 quote does has a problem i just noticed tonight…But for now, in the New international NIV…this is what it says for Rev 13:1…
1 The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name
See it Pierre?
It was John that stood on the sand of the sea…not the dragon!!
The dragon rose up out of the sea whilst John observed from on the sand…which means that John was on the shore…not the dragon.Odd.
Quote (Devolution @ April 01 2012,13:33) terraricca,April wrote:[/quote]
Thanks Pierre,The reason i asked is this…
When i read those two verses you quoted from revelation ch 17, i saw something that contradicted.
So, on a hunch, i did an online search in the New international NIV concerning rev 17:8.
And what you quoted almost matches it perfectly…enough so, as for me to conclude you were using the same version…maybe just the one prior the new international?So that being the case, i asked you to quote rev 13:1 out of curiosity…but your 13:1, at least, is different to what i'm about to quote..
Yet your NIV 17:8 quote does has a problem i just noticed tonight…But for now, in the New international NIV…this is what it says for Rev 13:1…
1 The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name
See it Pierre?
It was John that stood on the sand of the sea…not the dragon!!
The dragon rose up out of the sea whilst John observed from on the sand…which means that John was on the shore…not the dragon.Odd.
dev13:1 Then 1 I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It 2 had ten horns and seven heads, and on its horns were ten diadem crowns, 3 and on its heads a blasphemous name. 4NET BIBLE
Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.NIV 1984
Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.KJV
yes,i can see that ,but it seems that the dragon part is from Rev 12; 18 and some bibles have it flip to Rev 13;1,
I assume that the dragon as nothing to do with the beast coming out of the sea ,so the I just let it at that .
Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,07:10)
Only problem is Pierre…There is no Rev 12:18.
There is no mention anywhere in chapter 12 of a dragon standing on the shore of the sea..on the shore of any sea.I must go to bed now…it's 4:50am over here!!!!!
Tomorrow…I want to show the problem i have noticed in the two NIV translations of Rev 17:8 … the way they write that verse just can not work when scrutinized!!!
It just can't.
See if you can pick it?
If not….no prob….i'll explain tomorrow sometime…Must crash.
Quote (Devolution @ April 01 2012,14:53) terraricca,April wrote:[/quote]
Only problem is Pierre…There is no Rev 12:18.
There is no mention anywhere in chapter 12 of a dragon standing on the shore of the sea..on the shore of any sea.I must go to bed now…it's 4:50am over here!!!!!
Tomorrow…I want to show the problem i have noticed in the two NIV translations of Rev 17:8 … the way they write that verse just can not work when scrutinized!!!
It just can't.
See if you can pick it?
If not….no prob….i'll explain tomorrow sometime…Must crash.
devsweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman; it opened its mouth and swallowed the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her children, those who keep the commandments of God and hold the testimony of Jesus.
Rev 12:18 The First Beast
Then the dragon took his stand on the sand of the seashore. 1 And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads; and on its horns were ten diadems, and on its heads were blasphemous names. 2 And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And the dragon gave it his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of its heads seemed to have received a death-blow, but its mortal wound had been healed. In amazement the whole earth followed the beast. 4 They worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?”
the NSV
Pierre
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was (world ruling government, Rome), and is not (not after 565 AD); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit (shall suddenly appear, the League of Nation 1918), and go into perdition (1946): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was (world ruling government), and is not, and yet is (the UN).
Rev 17:14 These (the ten kings, UN) shall make war with the Lamb (fight against Christianity), and the Lamb (Jesus) shall overcome them (in the end): for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful (the saints).
Georg
Quote (Pastry @ April 01 2012,13:22) Pierre Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was (world ruling government, Rome), and is not (not after 565 AD); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit (shall suddenly appear, the League of Nation 1918), and go into perdition (1946): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was (world ruling government), and is not, and yet is (the UN).
Rev 17:14 These (the ten kings, UN) shall make war with the Lamb (fight against Christianity), and the Lamb (Jesus) shall overcome them (in the end): for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful (the saints).
Georg
Pastry.georg said: the the league of nations went into PERDITION in 1946.
The scriptures says: 2thess 2:3.– THE –MAN– OF SIN BE REVEALED,THE SON OF PERDITION.–(league of nations??)
VERSE 4. Who opposeth and exalted himself above ALL THAT IS CALLETH GOD,OR THAT IS WORSHIPPED; SO HE AS GOD SITTETH IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD, SHEWING HIM SELF THAT HE IS GOD.
(so the league of nations is that MAN of sin?? ( the league of nations sits as God,in the temple of God)? Where is this in history? (error).But wait; there is more.
Georg said: the UN is the revived beast(league of nations revived).
The league of nations went into perdition,but revived??The scripture says:
VERSE8. and then shall THAT WICKED be revealed,WHOM THE LORD SHALL CONSUME WITH THE SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH.
(gone into perdition).(no Revival here).But georg said: he will be revived??and another will come up; the U.N.?? (error).
Who is going to consume this one georg?? (the U.N).
will there be a 3th coming??Georg also said: The league of nations is the one coming afer the working of satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,and will go into PERDITION.(what wonders)??
(Perdition means damnation; how come revived again?).Georg said: but he will come up again;and will be called the united nations.(error).
The U.N is with us for many years now.
(scripture says ; the last beast will only last a very short time).(another error).But wait; there is more.
Georg said: The revived league of nations, and now the U.N, will make war with the LAMB.So it will go into perdition AGAIN the 2nd time.? (error).But wait,there is more:
Georg also said:
when the league of nations went into perdition;the WHOLE WORLD wonder, who,s names are not written in the book of life.
This has happened in 1946.??( the muslems were wondering too georg)??(and the hindus).?You are going deeper into the mire,and there is no rescue.
But wiat, there is more:
georg said: The lamb is christianity; and the lamb is also Jesus.(error)
Did christians open the 7 seals??There is some more:
Georg said the beast that was, is the roman empire:(error).The word WAS means past.John lived during the roman empire,so it can not be the roman empire,for the roman empire is in existence in Johns day.
The beast that was has to be one before the roman empire.
(another nail in the coffin).How are you going to come out of this bondage?
wakeup.
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