The two witnesses of revelation

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  • #373838
    journey42
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,13:11)
    Hi j42,
    Indeed Moses died and Elijah was taken up.
    Why we were never told but should you not consider Enoch too?


    Nick

    Yes I have considered Enoch, but did he stop the rain?

    #373839
    journey42
    Participant

    Malachi 4:5   Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

    Nick

    It was a toss up between Enoch and Elijah, but this scripture confirmed my choice.

    #373841
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi j42,
    Elijah's Spirit came in John the Baptist.

    But you CHOSE. Should not scripture tell us?

    #373866
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,14:11)
    Hi j42,
    Elijah's Spirit came in John the Baptist.

    But you CHOSE. Should not scripture tell us?


    Nick.

    Scripture did tell us.
    They can turn water into blood,
    and they can stop the rain.
    Those are the two hints given.
    Also at the transfiguration.

    wakeup.

    #373873
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU
    Only by implication to you
    Inference is not proof though

    #373875
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Inference certainly is not proof, but it can be correct. On this subject I think that is all we have.

    #373879
    journey42
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,14:11)
    Hi j42,
    Elijah's Spirit came in John the Baptist.

    But you CHOSE. Should not scripture tell us?


    Hi Nick

    The spirit of Elijah did indeed come regarding John the Baptist,
    The spirit of “a prophet ”   “of God”
    same spirit.

    Malachi 4:5   Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

    The Jews were expecting Elijah, but they got John the Baptist and Jesus.
    Jesus told them that Elijah had already come.
    John the baptist proclaimed that Christ was coming and for all to prepare & repent,….John paved the way
    It will be the same in the last days,
    Elijah will announce and pave the way for the return of Christ.
    He will warn them to repent.
    Elijah comes, and the scripture is clear that he does.
    The second coming is going to be dreadful for all dwelling in Babylon the Great.
    Elijah is definate – and one of the two prophets.

    #373884
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    It is speculation about Elijah too

    #373885
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,19:41)
    Hi J42,
    It is speculation about Elijah too


    Nick

    How can you call scripture speculation?

    #373887
    Wakeup
    Participant

    The sun and the moon being the two witnesses; I call
    speculation.
    You need to read and decern the scriptures.

    wakeup.

    #373904
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    Scripture does not say Elijah will be one of the witnesses
    That is speculation

    #373905
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Exactly but we need to keep an open mind.
    It is not specified and there are other options.

    The Sun and moon are called witnesses

    #373907
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    Revelation is written in the language of symbolism. It is spiritual and obvious options can be traps for the unwary.
    The time period relates to the tribulation-3and a half years

    Note that in the same chapter there is
    42 months
    1260 days and
    3 and a half days occurs twice.

    Next chapter
    has 1260 days
    A year and two and a half years more

    Next chapter
    42 months
    and this continues
    That is why I think each chapter refers to the same time period from different perspectives

    #373915
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Compare too the 1290 and 1335 days of Dan 12 12

    #373916
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Compare also
    Rev 9.17-18
    Rev 11.5
    Rev 13.13

    All to do with fire , two from the mouth and one from heaven[?the heavens].
    Any connection here?

    #373926
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,05:08)
    Hi J42,
    Revelation is written in the language of symbolism. It is spiritual and obvious options can be traps for the unwary.
    The time period relates to the tribulation-3and a half years

    Note that in the same chapter there is
    42 months
    1260 days and
    3 and a half days occurs twice.

    Next chapter
    has 1260 days
    A year and two and a half years more

    Next chapter
    42 months
    and this continues
    That is why I think each chapter refers to the same time period from different perspectives


    Hi,

    Can you give me verses please so I know what you are reffering to.

    #373928
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,07:06)
    Hi,
    Compare too the 1290 and 1335 days of Dan 12 12


    Do you understand what this means Nick?

    #373929
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi j42,
    For your own benefit I suggest you should search rev 11,12,13
    It is not hard

    #373930
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,07:15)
    Hi,
    Compare also
    Rev 9.17-18
    Rev 11.5
    Rev 13.13

    All to do with fire , two from the mouth and one from heaven[?the heavens].
    Any connection here?


    Revelation 9:17   And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
    These are war machines.  Tanks etc.  The smoke comes when they fire.

    Revelation 9:18   By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
    This is when all the armies come into Israel.  
    Rev 16:16   And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    Revelation 11:5    And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
    These are the two witnessess, who are the two prophets.  They are not war machines, but are given power by God to harm by their WORD.

    Revelation 13:13  And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    This is the false prophet

    No, they are not related.
    You are looking at the word fire, and confused.
    If you know the prophesies, you can tell where everything fits.

    There's death coming from the armies gathering into Israel. They kill with war machines. A third of men are killed.
    There's death coming from the two witnesses, they are sent by God and displaying God's power in them, they are tormenting the beasts kingdom, which killed and persecuted all the saints,
    and there's miracles coming from the false prophet, he is displaying his powers from Satan.

    #373931
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,09:53)
    Hi j42,
    For your own benefit I suggest you should search rev 11,12,13
    It is not hard


    Nick

    That's not an answer. If you don't understand what the 1335 days mean, I can show you?

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