The two witnesses of revelation

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    Elizabeth
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,07:34)
    Hi Georg,
    We only have you word for these interpretations.
    Can you not find supportive scriptures?
    If not then drop them


    What's the point, you ignore them any way.
    Why not try with the once I did give.

    Georg

    #187980
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 20 2010,23:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 20 2010,15:35)

    Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 27 2010,18:06)
    The two witnesses are the Old and the New Testament. The 1260 days are years, the time of the Antichrist reign.

    Georg


    georg

    books do not have bodys,and are not called to heaven, i think.

    Rev 11:5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.
    Rev 11:6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.
    Rev 11:7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.
    Rev 11:8 Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
    Rev 11:9 For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial


    Terraricca, think about it, would God turn a human being into a fire breathing dragon? you have to admit that this is not to be taken literal.
    Verse 6, who was it that shut up heaven that it rain not for three and a half years? and who was it that turned water into blood; during the time of “their” prophecy?
    Verse 7, who was the “beast” that came out of the bottomless pit, out of no where? THE LEAGUE OF NATION, in 1918.
    Verse 8, what is the great city which is “figuratively” called Sodom and Egypt?
    What does Sodom symbolize? perversion.
    What does Egypt symbolize? sin.
    In other words, this great city is Satan's world, that is where Jesus was crucified, outside Jerusalem, Satan's great city.
    And are not these two witnesses treated as dead? look at the world, what condition it is in, did these two witnesses do any good?
    Has the world gotten any better since these two witnesses began to witness?
    Look what these two witnesses had accomplished in our founding fathers, and have we not slowly killed them of over the last half Century? But nobody wants to get rid of them all together, bury them, why? because some people do think there is something to these two witnesses, and they are right.
    There is a time, fast approaching, when God will call these two witnesses home, meaning, no more witnessing.

    Amo 8:11 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:  

    Amo 8:12   And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.  

    Georg


    georg

    you think this is not accomplished after the dead of the last apostle?Amo 8:11 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

    Amo 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

    #188048
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    terraricca

    Of course not, how did you hear about the gospel?

    Georg

    #188056
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 21 2010,16:06)
    terraricca

    Of course not, how did you hear about the gospel?

    Georg


    georg

    why have we left the churches?? is not because there was no food,

    so we went back to the word of God and find new nourishment
    to sustain are needs and look other places.

    #188057
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2010,16:16)

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 21 2010,16:06)
    terraricca

    Of course not, how did you hear about the gospel?

    Georg


    georg

    why have we left the churches?? is not because there was no food,

    so we went back to the word of God and find new nourishment
    to sustain are needs and look other places.


    I agree, churches do not teach the truth of the Bible, but nevertheless, the gospel “IS” being preached; and as you and I did, it is our responsibility to prove all things.

    Georg

    #188060
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 21 2010,16:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 21 2010,16:16)

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 21 2010,16:06)
    terraricca

    Of course not, how did you hear about the gospel?

    Georg


    georg

    why have we left the churches?? is not because there was no food,

    so we went back to the word of God and find new nourishment
    to sustain are needs and look other places.


    I agree, churches do not teach the truth of the Bible, but nevertheless, the gospel “IS” being preached; and as you and I did, it is our responsibility to prove all things.

    Georg


    georg

    AGREED

    #188061
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Georg,
    Scriptural witnesses establish truth.[2cor13.1]

    #188067
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Topical

    #188071
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,16:26)
    Hi Georg,
    Scriptural witnesses establish truth.[2cor13.1]


    nick

    the spirit of Christ gives truth

    #188123
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,16:26)
    Hi Georg,
    Scriptural witnesses establish truth.[2cor13.1]


    So you admit that by ignoring , or rejecting scripture, you reject or ignore truth.

    Georg

    #188183
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,16:26)
    Hi Georg,
    Scriptural witnesses establish truth.[2cor13.1]


    nick

    you start to be good at taking scriptures out of context;2Co 12:20 For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder.
    2Co 12:21 I am afraid that when I come again my God will humble me before you, and I will be grieved over many who have sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual sin and debauchery in which they have indulged.

    Final Warnings

    2Co 13:1 This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
    2Co 13:2 I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others,

    were do you fit your comment???

    #188189
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Every fact is established in the mouth of witnesses.
    Yet folk preach foolish stuff here based on their own understanding of one verse.

    #188203
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2010,08:35)
    Hi T,
    Every fact is established in the mouth of witnesses.
    Yet folk preach foolish stuff here based on their own understanding of one verse.


    nick

    is that not what you have been doing??all along

    #188212
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Suddenly I am your enemy?
    Why?
    For showing you what is written?

    #188220
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2010,09:41)
    Hi T,
    Suddenly I am your enemy?
    Why?
    For showing you what is written?


    nick

    do not tink you are my enemy ,but sometimes truth as to be said,

    you have showed me nothing ,in scriptures beside your own misunderstanding.

    if you are so weak that it is so important to you that i should be baptise for your own sake i will be.

    #188226
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    We preach the gospel here in all circumstances-to friendly or hostile audiences.
    Those who obey God can then see the kingdom.[Jn3]

    #188227
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    The two witnesses are unlikely to be men IMO.
    Sun and moon are said to be witnesses too.[Ps89 36.37]
    Then there are the three witnesses of 1 Jn5

    #188232
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2010,10:27)
    Hi T,
    We preach the gospel here in all circumstances-to friendly or hostile audiences.
    Those who obey God can then see the kingdom.[Jn3]


    nick
    yes to your first question.
    i would not use the word obey,but search for the kingdom of God,you have to find it first before you can obey to it.

    and find it is understand it with the heart.

    #188234
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Yes we know you designed another way.
    But understanding follows obedience.
    Wisdom is justified by her children

    #188235
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2010,10:29)
    Hi,
    The two witnesses are unlikely to be men IMO.
    Sun and moon are said to be witnesses too.[Ps89 36.37]
    Then there are the three witnesses of 1 Jn5


    nick

    on that ,i still not inlighted as its understanding,so may be later.

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