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- January 29, 2013 at 12:16 pm#330594DevolutionParticipant2besee,Jan. wrote:
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Quote Q: Why is Jesus coming IF His kingdom is already set up? A: His Kingdom is in heaven ATM, not on this earth.
He rules from Heaven and in the heart of all of his begotten on earth, until the day of the end. (Matthew 13:24-30)[/b]Q: When Christ comes, will this be the new heaven & earth period where all sinners are destroyed?
Q: Who is ruling in the hearts of the unbelievers ATM?
Quote Q: When was Satan locked up? A: Most likely around 70AD.
The world was no longer deceived, they came to know the God of Israel!
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.Q: “Most likely 70ad”? Do you have any scriptures to back this assumption?
Quote Q: When was Satan let loose? A: I do not want to make assumptions on dates.
Q: Since you just assumed 70 ad, is making two assumptions in a row on the same subject against your policy?
Cheers.
January 29, 2013 at 12:46 pm#3305962beseeParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Jan. 30 2013,00:16) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 29 2013,21:50) Quote Q: Why is Jesus coming IF His kingdom is already set up? A: His Kingdom is in heaven ATM, not on this earth.
He rules from Heaven and in the heart of all of his begotten on earth, until the day of the end. (Matthew 13:24-30)[/b]Q: When Christ comes, will this be the new heaven & earth period where all sinners are destroyed?
Q: Who is ruling in the hearts of the unbelievers ATM?
Quote Q: When was Satan locked up? A: Most likely around 70AD.
The world was no longer deceived, they came to know the God of Israel!
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.Q: “Most likely 70ad”? Do you have any scriptures to back this assumption?
Quote Q: When was Satan let loose? A: I do not want to make assumptions on dates.
Q: Since you just assumed 70 ad, is making two assumptions in a row on the same subject against your policy?
Cheers.
HI Devolution.Quote
Q: When Christ comes, will this be the new heaven & earth period where all sinners are destroyed?Yes.
That is what scriptures tell us (for example 2nd Peter chapter 3)Quote Q: Who is ruling in the hearts of the unbelievers ATM? I am no the judge of unbelievers. God is (1Cor 5:12) so I cannot comment!
Quote Q: Since you just assumed 70 ad, is making two assumptions in a row on the same subject against your policy Yes because nobody but God knows the date of His return, so if I said a date then you could add onto that and come up with a date, so, NO, I cannot do that!!
January 29, 2013 at 1:54 pm#330599DevolutionParticipantQuote (2besee @ Jan. 29 2013,22:46) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 30 2013,00:16) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 29 2013,21:50) Quote Q: Why is Jesus coming IF His kingdom is already set up? A: His Kingdom is in heaven ATM, not on this earth.
He rules from Heaven and in the heart of all of his begotten on earth, until the day of the end. (Matthew 13:24-30)[/b]Q: When Christ comes, will this be the new heaven & earth period where all sinners are destroyed?
Q: Who is ruling in the hearts of the unbelievers ATM?
Quote Q: When was Satan locked up? A: Most likely around 70AD.
The world was no longer deceived, they came to know the God of Israel!
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.Q: “Most likely 70ad”? Do you have any scriptures to back this assumption?
Quote Q: When was Satan let loose? A: I do not want to make assumptions on dates.
Q: Since you just assumed 70 ad, is making two assumptions in a row on the same subject against your policy?
Cheers.
HI Devolution.Quote
Q: When Christ comes, will this be the new heaven & earth period where all sinners are destroyed?Yes.
That is what scriptures tell us (for example 2nd Peter chapter 3)Quote Q: Who is ruling in the hearts of the unbelievers ATM? I am no the judge of unbelievers. God is (1Cor 5:12) so I cannot comment!
Quote Q: Since you just assumed 70 ad, is making two assumptions in a row on the same subject against your policy Yes because nobody but God knows the date of His return, so if I said a date then you could add onto that and come up with a date, so, NO, I cannot do that!!
Hi 2besee,Quote Q: When Christ comes, will this be the new heaven & earth period where all sinners are destroyed? A:Yes.
That is what scriptures tell us (for example 2nd Peter chapter 3)Q: Clarify one last time please…So ALL heathen (non believers) are no more?
Quote Q: Who is ruling in the hearts of the unbelievers ATM? A: I am no the judge of unbelievers. God is (1Cor 5:12) so I cannot comment!
I remind you:
Quote Satan rules over those who are still in the world practicing sin, and those in his kingdom have the opportunity of come into the kingdom of God, but if they do not, they will die in their sins or they will receive the mark of the beast and they will be judged by the seven last plagues when Jesus comes for the church Q: When a man has no pleasure in God, what does scripture tell us he has pleasure in?
Q: Clarify please…So Satan rules in their hearts?
Quote Q: Since you just assumed 70 ad, is making two assumptions in a row on the same subject against your policy Yes because nobody but God knows the date of His return, so if I said a date then you could add onto that and come up with a date, so, NO, I cannot do that!!
Q: Clarify please…So Satan wasn't really locked up in 70ad then?
Cheers.
January 29, 2013 at 11:12 pm#3306082beseeParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Jan. 30 2013,01:54) Q: Clarify please…So Satan rules in their hearts? 1Cor 5:9-13
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with immoral men; not at all meaning the immoral of this world, or the greedy and robbers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
But rather I wrote to you not to associate with any one who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber — not even to eat with such a one.
For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?
God judges those outside. “Drive out the wicked person from among you.”Quote ..So ALL heathen (non believers) are no more? Rev 20:12-15
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire; and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.Revelations 22:14-15
Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.
Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood.————
God is the judge of what a man has done.
According to scripture, “dogs, sorcerers, fornicators, murderers, idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood, will be thrown into the lake of fire which is the second death (eternal death). The sentence (death) is eternal.NOW is the day of salvation, now is the day when we should be bringing in fruit and being witnesses to the good news of the coming kingdom, not some time future like you teach.
Matthew 24:45-51
“Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time?
Blessed is that servant whom his master when he comes will find so doing.
Quote Q: Clarify please…So Satan wasn't really locked up in 70ad then? Most likely around this time going by a few scriptures.
If Satan was in complete power, how do you think that the good news of the coming kingdom was taken around the world?
The world never knew YHVH, then the world did. This is being no longer deceived.
But, according to scripture, He comes out to deceive the nations at the four corners of the earth (Gog and Magog) one last time — before the end.
—————
Also, regarding my last post, did you not see how the temple is the body?
What was in the body?
The Holy Spirit.
What was then taken away?What took it's place?
Sin.
Kundalini is also called the inner serpent. People who have this tell their experiences.That is only the beginning.
Watch that you are not deceived.And also, your view is now becoming a majority view.
Do not think that you are alone in what you teach.January 29, 2013 at 11:27 pm#3306112beseeParticipantOn saying that, I agree (from what I have skim read) on the OPs of this thread.
I disagree with other views that God's kingdom is here now. It is not.
It is to come. It is in heaven at the momentJesus has not returned He is in heaven , and in the hearts of true believers through the Holy Spirit.
January 31, 2013 at 2:05 am#330696WakeupParticipant2bESEE.
Why would the kingdom on earth be ruled from heaven?
And then come down to put them through tribulation,and then set up his kingdom again on earth?
Then rule on earth?This is mumbo jumbo.Too many holes.The fact is that he had left the preaching to men,while he is next to his father. And he will come back to do the harvest,for the weed has grown amongst the corn.(corruption).
His angels will harvest the corn,and the weed will be burned. He will set up his kingdom on earth ,and he will rule with the corn as kings and priests.
Rule over what?
Rule over the jews that have been brought back out of their graves also in the flesh. Them that have been chosen.
They will go through Christ also and after the 1000yrs they also will be changed,at the 2nd resurrection.And also them gentiles that have been put on the right.
They also will be changed. All the bad will be cast in the lake of fire where satan is,and also where the false prophet was put in one thousand years ago,at the second coming.Now all bad is no more,only the good,but the earth itself is still bad; it needs cleansing. It will be done by melting.
The new earth will be as heaven,and God will be with us. HEAVEN ON EARTH.wakeup.
January 31, 2013 at 1:02 pm#330719DevolutionParticipant2besee,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Hi 2besee,Quote Q: Clarify please…So Satan rules in their hearts? A: 1Cor 5:9-13
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with immoral men; not at all meaning the immoral of this world, or the greedy and robbers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
But rather I wrote to you not to associate with any one who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber — not even to eat with such a one.
For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?
God judges those outside. “Drive out the wicked person from among you.”I take that as a yes.
Quote ..Q: So ALL heathen (non believers) are no more? Rev 20:12-15
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire; and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.Revelations 22:14-15
Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.
Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood.————
God is the judge of what a man has done.
According to scripture, “dogs, sorcerers, fornicators, murderers, idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood, will be thrown into the lake of fire which is the second death (eternal death). The sentence (death) is eternal.I take that as another yes.
Quote NOW is the day of salvation, now is the day when we should be bringing in fruit and being witnesses to the good news of the coming kingdom, not some time future like you teach. Matthew 24:45-51
“Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time?Blessed is that servant whom his master when he comes will find so doing.
Quote Q: Clarify please…So Satan wasn't really locked up in 70ad then? Most likely around this time going by a few scriptures.
If Satan was in complete power, how do you think that the good news of the coming kingdom was taken around the world?
The world never knew YHVH, then the world did. This is being no longer deceived.
But, according to scripture, He comes out to deceive the nations at the four corners of the earth (Gog and Magog) one last time — before the end.
So you are guessing & assuming…and what of those scriptures you mention?
Can you provide them?So far:
You say Christ has set up His kingdom & that it is in heaven.
That Satan was already locked up in the past and only “recently” released.
That Satan ruled with limited power during the spreading of the gospels during his imprisonment.
That Christ is ruling earth from heaven right now & that Satan no longer rules the kingdom of men (Satans kingdom)
That at the 2nd coming, ALL heathen (non believers) will be destroyed and only the resurrected will remain in the new heaven & earth.Right so far?
January 31, 2013 at 1:31 pm#3307202beseeParticipantQuote
You say Christ has set up His kingdom & that it is in heaven.
That Satan was already locked up in the past and only “recently” released.
That Satan ruled with limited power during the spreading of the gospels during his imprisonment.
That Christ is ruling earth from heaven right now & that Satan no longer rules the kingdom of men (Satans kingdom)
That at the 2nd coming, ALL heathen (non believers) will be destroyed and only the resurrected will remain in the new heaven & earth.No, that is only partly true, see, there you go again, it's what you three do, you twist what others say,
and you think that only you three have the truth. REALLY??
So God does not work with anyone else??
Quote That Christ is ruling earth from heaven right now & that Satan no longer rules the kingdom of men (Satans kingdom) That is a false statement.
Quote That at the 2nd coming, ALL heathen (non believers) will be destroyed and only the resurrected will remain in the new heaven & earth. And that is a false statement.
I don't have time for this right now, it will have to wait.
Please don't reply to this, yet, because you may make more false statements and I do not have the time.January 31, 2013 at 2:58 pm#330721DevolutionParticipant2besee,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
2besee,Quote No, that is only partly true, see, there you go again, it's what you three do, you twist what others say, and you think that only you three have the truth. REALLY??
So God does not work with anyone else??
Dude, where did that come from??
How am I twisting your words?
Did I not ask you if these were correct?
Quote You say Christ has set up His kingdom & that it is in heaven.
That Satan was already locked up in the past and only “recently” released.
That Satan ruled with limited power during the spreading of the gospels during his imprisonment.
That Christ is ruling earth from heaven right now & that Satan no longer rules the kingdom of men (Satans kingdom)
That at the 2nd coming, ALL heathen (non believers) will be destroyed and only the resurrected will remain in the new heaven & earthLet me give my questions again this time using your statements to show you why I came to these conclusions…
“You say Christ has set up His kingdom & that it is in heaven”
Quote His Kingdom is in heaven ATM, not on this earth.
He rules from Heaven and in the heart of all of his begotten on earth, until the day of the end. (Matthew 13:24-30)[/b]“That Satan was already locked up in the past and only “recently” released.”
Quote Q: When was Satan locked up? A: Most likely around 70AD.
The world was no longer deceived, they came to know the God of Israel!
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.Because Satan has now been let lose to DECEIVE the nations, and He knows that His time is short.
“That Satan ruled with limited power during the spreading of the gospels during his imprisonment.”
Quote If Satan was in complete power, how do you think that the good news of the coming kingdom was taken around the world? “That at the 2nd coming, ALL heathen (non believers) will be destroyed and only the resurrected will remain in the new heaven & earth”
Quote ..Q: So ALL heathen (non believers) are no more? Rev 20:12-15
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire; and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.God is the judge of what a man has done.
According to scripture, “dogs, sorcerers, fornicators, murderers, idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood, will be thrown into the lake of fire which is the second death (eternal death). The sentence (death) is eternal.Q: When Christ comes, will this be the new heaven & earth period where all sinners are destroyed?
A:Yes.
That is what scriptures tell us (for example 2nd Peter chapter 3)
“That Christ is ruling earth from heaven right now & that Satan no longer rules the kingdom of men (Satans kingdom)”
I ASKED you this one because you said that Christ is ruling the earth in the hearts of those who follow Him, ruling from HIS KINGDOM in heaven.
Well Christ won't be sharing power with Satan when He rules in HIS KINGDOM.
Therefore, Satan MUST no longer rule over the kingdom of men.There you go.
I twisted nothing and your words prove it for me.What got you so upset?
You are actually disagreeing with yourself and blaming it on me!!Dude…dude!?!
Maybe you are still forming the picture & made a few boo boos or something?Nevertheless, I AM being honest & just wanting to make sure I understand the main points of your understanding so I can prepare a accurate reply is all!!
I forgive you for the accusation, just clear up any misunderstanding regarding those 5 assessments I made because they are what I will be basing my reply to you on.
Cheers.
January 31, 2013 at 3:48 pm#330724terrariccaParticipantdevo
read the last part of verse 7 ,and this is from wen read verse 6
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.'Isa 11:1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
Isa 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of power,
the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD—
Isa 11:3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD.He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;
Isa 11:4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 Righteousness will be his belt
and faithfulness the sash around his waist.THIS HIS JESUS THAT IT TALKS ABOUT ;
Isa 11:6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
Isa 11:7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper’s nest.
Isa 11:9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.
Isa 11:11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
Isa 11:12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earthJn 12:32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.”
January 31, 2013 at 10:33 pm#330726WakeupParticipantTerra.
So what is your point?
Are you saying that his kingdom is here and now?Y/N?wakeup.
January 31, 2013 at 10:52 pm#330728terrariccaParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2013,20:48) devo read the last part of verse 7 ,and this is from wen read verse 6
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.'Isa 11:1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
Isa 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of power,
the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD—
Isa 11:3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD.He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;
Isa 11:4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 Righteousness will be his belt
and faithfulness the sash around his waist.THIS HIS JESUS THAT IT TALKS ABOUT ;
Isa 11:6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
Isa 11:7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper’s nest.
Isa 11:9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.
Isa 11:11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
Isa 11:12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earthJn 12:32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.”
Dan;2;35….The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earthDa 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will “”SET UP “”” a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
THIS IS WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS ,”” NOW DOES “SET UP A KINGDOM ” his the same thing than have the kingdom ,to me no ,a set up is what it says set up means the kingdom is started but Christ kingdom is not to be confused with men kingdoms ,
February 1, 2013 at 2:15 am#330755WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2013,08:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2013,20:48) devo read the last part of verse 7 ,and this is from wen read verse 6
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.'Isa 11:1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
Isa 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of power,
the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD—
Isa 11:3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD.He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;
Isa 11:4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 Righteousness will be his belt
and faithfulness the sash around his waist.THIS HIS JESUS THAT IT TALKS ABOUT ;
Isa 11:6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
Isa 11:7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper’s nest.
Isa 11:9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.
Isa 11:11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
Isa 11:12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earthJn 12:32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.”
Dan;2;35….The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earthDa 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will “”SET UP “”” a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
THIS IS WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS ,”” NOW DOES “SET UP A KINGDOM ” his the same thing than have the kingdom ,to me no ,a set up is what it says set up means the kingdom is started but Christ kingdom is not to be confused with men kingdoms ,
Terra.Has he set up his kingdom,or is he going to set up his kingdom?
wakeup.
February 1, 2013 at 3:55 am#330769terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,07:15) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2013,08:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2013,20:48) devo read the last part of verse 7 ,and this is from wen read verse 6
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.'Isa 11:1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
Isa 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of power,
the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD—
Isa 11:3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD.He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;
Isa 11:4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 Righteousness will be his belt
and faithfulness the sash around his waist.THIS HIS JESUS THAT IT TALKS ABOUT ;
Isa 11:6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
Isa 11:7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper’s nest.
Isa 11:9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.
Isa 11:11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
Isa 11:12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earthJn 12:32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.”
Dan;2;35….The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earthDa 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will “”SET UP “”” a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
THIS IS WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS ,”” NOW DOES “SET UP A KINGDOM ” his the same thing than have the kingdom ,to me no ,a set up is what it says set up means the kingdom is started but Christ kingdom is not to be confused with men kingdoms ,
Terra.Has he set up his kingdom,or is he going to set up his kingdom?
wakeup.
wen was the stone cast on the feetFebruary 1, 2013 at 3:58 am#330770WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2013,13:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,07:15) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2013,08:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2013,20:48) devo read the last part of verse 7 ,and this is from wen read verse 6
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.'Isa 11:1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
Isa 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of power,
the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD—
Isa 11:3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD.He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;
Isa 11:4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 Righteousness will be his belt
and faithfulness the sash around his waist.THIS HIS JESUS THAT IT TALKS ABOUT ;
Isa 11:6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
Isa 11:7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper’s nest.
Isa 11:9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.
Isa 11:11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
Isa 11:12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earthJn 12:32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.”
Dan;2;35….The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earthDa 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will “”SET UP “”” a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
THIS IS WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS ,”” NOW DOES “SET UP A KINGDOM ” his the same thing than have the kingdom ,to me no ,a set up is what it says set up means the kingdom is started but Christ kingdom is not to be confused with men kingdoms ,
Terra.Has he set up his kingdom,or is he going to set up his kingdom?
wakeup.
wen was the stone cast on the feet
Terra.Has he, or has he not?
wakeup.
February 1, 2013 at 4:18 am#330771terrariccaParticipantWup
Yes ,scriptures say that at the time of those kings the stone get lose (Christ comes from heaven)
And he his God,s king for the kingdomFebruary 1, 2013 at 11:01 am#330823DevolutionParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2013,14:18) Wup Yes ,scriptures say that at the time of those kings the stone get lose (Christ comes from heaven)
And he his God,s king for the kingdom
Hi Terra,So are you saying that Christ is right now sitting on His throne of glory ruling in His kingdom?
February 1, 2013 at 11:20 am#3308262beseeParticipantQuote Hi Terra, So are you saying that Christ is right now sitting on His throne of glory ruling in His kingdom?
John to the seven churches that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the first-born of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood
and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.Devo, I will have to get to your and Wakeup's posts another time.
But I know that I have addressed those things before and you never heard me then so why would you now?
February 1, 2013 at 11:23 am#330827Ed JParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Feb. 01 2013,21:01) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2013,14:18) Wup Yes ,scriptures say that at the time of those kings the stone get lose (Christ comes from heaven)
And he his God,s king for the kingdom
Hi Terra,So are you saying that Christ is right now sitting on His throne of glory ruling in His kingdom?
Hi Devolution,Christ is sitting at God's right hand while God's HolySpirit
is ruling in the midst of God's enemies. (see Psalm 110:1-2)
People are now willing since God's power is seen as being true.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 1, 2013 at 3:36 pm#330832DevolutionParticipantQuote (2besee @ Feb. 01 2013,21:20) Quote Hi Terra, So are you saying that Christ is right now sitting on His throne of glory ruling in His kingdom?
John to the seven churches that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the first-born of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood
and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.Devo, I will have to get to your and Wakeup's posts another time.
But I know that I have addressed those things before and you never heard me then so why would you now?
Hi 2besee,Matthew 13:41 >The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Q: Whose kingdom are the angels sent to?
Q: What are the angels sent to do?
Q: Where is this kingdom, heaven or earth?Matthew 25:31 >When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Q: Which coming is being spoken of here?
Q: Who accompanies Jesus at this coming?
Q: When does it say that Jesus will sit on His throne of glory? - AuthorPosts
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