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“And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which
laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other
my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.” (Phil 4:3)“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these,
saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are
ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have
ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly
sinners have spoken against him.” (Jude 1:14-15)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,11:43) “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these,
saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are
ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have
ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly
sinners have spoken against him.” (Jude 1:14-15)
EdJ.But you said gain: NO, tHE LORD WILL NOT COME WITH ALL HIS SAINTS. he has come already at pantecost,and he came alone,with no saints.
AND ALSO.
Christ is ruling now for 2000yrs,and his kingdom is on earth today,But You are not alone on this.
It seems very clear that the bible to you is not THE WORD OF GOD to be taken seriously.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 03 2012,22:40) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,11:43) “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these,
saying, Behold, the LORD cometh with ten thousands of his saints,To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are
ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have
ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly
sinners have spoken against him.” (Jude 1:14-15)
EdJ.But you said gain: NO, tHE LORD WILL NOT COME WITH ALL HIS SAINTS. he has come already at pantecost,and he came alone,with no saints.
AND ALSO.
Christ is ruling now for 2000yrs,and his kingdom is on earth today,But You are not alone on this.
It seems very clear that the bible to you is not THE WORD OF GOD to be taken seriously.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,What YOU don't understand YOU put into the future.
“The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he
shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.” (Deuteronomy 33:2) … “The Law” judges the ungodly.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,15:07) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 03 2012,22:40) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,11:43) “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these,
saying, Behold, the LORD cometh with ten thousands of his saints,To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are
ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have
ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly
sinners have spoken against him.” (Jude 1:14-15)
EdJ.But you said gain: NO, tHE LORD WILL NOT COME WITH ALL HIS SAINTS. he has come already at pantecost,and he came alone,with no saints.
AND ALSO.
Christ is ruling now for 2000yrs,and his kingdom is on earth today,But You are not alone on this.
It seems very clear that the bible to you is not THE WORD OF GOD to be taken seriously.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,What YOU don't understand YOU put into the future.
“The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he
shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.” (Deuteronomy 33:2) … “The Law” judges the ungodly.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyeah 144 000 saints as per revelation
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,08:07) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 03 2012,22:40) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,11:43) “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these,
saying, Behold, the LORD cometh with ten thousands of his saints,To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are
ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have
ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly
sinners have spoken against him.” (Jude 1:14-15)
EdJ.But you said gain: NO, tHE LORD WILL NOT COME WITH ALL HIS SAINTS. he has come already at pantecost,and he came alone,with no saints.
AND ALSO.
Christ is ruling now for 2000yrs,and his kingdom is on earth today,But You are not alone on this.
It seems very clear that the bible to you is not THE WORD OF GOD to be taken seriously.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,What YOU don't understand YOU put into the future.
“The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he
shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.” (Deuteronomy 33:2) … “The Law” judges the ungodly.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.You are so quick to quote scrptures; but dont have a clue what it means.
These are proph.of his 1st and 2nd coming.Wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Jesus second coming was (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,15:03) Hi Wakeup, Jesus second coming was (in spirit form) on Pentecost. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.And he is coming again the 3th time to judge.
I believe that there is only the 1st coming and the 2nd coming; there is no 3th coming.You believe that there is the 1st coming in the flesh and the 2nd coming in the spirit and an other 3th coming.
And you realy believe this,even its not in scripure?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,17:02) EdJ. I believe that there is only the 1st coming and the 2nd coming; there is no 3th coming.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I believe that as well – and his second
coming was (in spirit form) at Pentecost.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,17:11) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,17:02) EdJ. I believe that there is only the 1st coming and the 2nd coming; there is no 3th coming.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I believe that as well – and his second
coming was (in spirit form) at Pentecost.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.So there are no more comings?
what about rev.19?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Rev.19 and Rev.21 are explaining the same event.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,20:41) Hi Wakeup, Rev.19 and Rev.21 are explaining the same event.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.What event?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,21:02) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,20:41) Hi Wakeup, Rev.19 and Rev.21 are explaining the same event.
God bless
Ed J
EdJ.What event?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,An event called the “Feast of Tabernacles”.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,21:09) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,21:02) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,20:41) Hi Wakeup, Rev.19 and Rev.21 are explaining the same event.
God bless
Ed J
EdJ.What event?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,An event called the “Feast of Tabernacles”.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You really surprise me.
Rev.19:19.The kings of the earth gather together to make WAR WITH THE LAMB, and you call this a feast?There is a difference between WAR and CELEBRATIONS.
You are so confused.The feast of tabernacles will be held yearly in the 1000yr reign.
Rev.19. is about the destruction of great babylon.
The cities of the nations will be no more. This is the wrath of God on babylon(rev16:19).Hardly a celebration.
wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,16:10) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,05:28) Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,10:01) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,01:44) Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,07:42) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,00:00) wakeup Quote Terra. Daniel was very clear when he says; And I watch till the thrones (as many,not one)were cast down; and the ancient of days did sit(in the kingdom).
So before the kingdom is set up; all the thrones must be cast down first.(babylon no more).
wakeup.
what scripture do you talking about
Terra.Dan.7:9. And I watch till the thrones(thrones as many) were cast down,and the ancient of days did sit(sit in his throne)—
wakeup.
wakeupDa 7:9 “As I looked,
“thrones were set in place,
and the Ancient of Days took his seat.
His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.what he saw was the thrones (power) was set in place to the 144k,and the Ancient of days (christ)
Rev 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
1CO 6:2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts?
1CO 6:3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?
Terra.Cast down(destroyed). not set in place.
And the ancient of days(Jesus) did sit.(in his throne),just one throne,not many thrones.This is why I dont use these new translations,as you know mankind has become more wicked.
wakeup.
wake upshow me in “strong” and in the
r@mah (Aramaic)
hmr r@mah (Aramaic)
Pronunciation: rem-aw'
Origin: corresponding to 07411
Reference: TWOT – 2997
PrtSpch: verb
In Hebrew: amrty 4, amrml 2, anymr 1, wmrw 1, wmr 1, Nwmrtt 1, wymr 1, wymrw 1
In NET: thrown into 7, impose 1, set up 1, throw them into 1, thrown 1, threw 1
In AV: cast 10, impose 1, cast down 1
Count: 12
Definition: 1) to cast, throw
1a) (P'al)
1a1) to cast
1a2) to throw
1a2a) of tribute (fig)
1b) (Peil)
1b1) to be cast
1b2) to be placed, be set
1c) (Ithp'el) to be cast
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(Aramaic) corresponding to 7411; to throw, set,
(figuratively) assess:-cast (down), impose.
see HEBREW for 07411you have to do better than the KJV;
the NKJV ;As I watched,
thrones were set in place,
and an Ancient One took his throne,
his clothing was white as snow,
and the hair of his head like pure wool;
his throne was fiery flames,
and its wheels were burning fire.so what is your point
Terra.As you can see that interpretation contradict the image in Daniel; when the stone from heaven will crush the whole image to dust.then Christ will set up his kingdom.(the ancient of days did sit).(in charge).
Equal to; when the thrones wer CAST DOWN(all kingdoms destroyed). to ashes (not thrones were set).
I dont care what those smart intelects are trying to say,if it is contradictory it is a no,no. you have to watch them.Have a good look before you put down the kjv.(your choice).
wakeup.
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wakeupI believe that the KJV is wrong here and should be “set up”
I believe that the translators figure it just like you do now ,” because the stone make the statue crumbled it should be :cast down, but this is not what is true to what it really meant ,
but you are free to believe it ,I will not change that ,only disagree with you on it ,and stay friendly
devo,j42,wakeupIsa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.Da 2:35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were broken to pieces at the same time and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.
Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
please see this prophecy and also understand ; Isaiah 9
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
“”from that time on and forever.”””this is from the time that he start his ministry and die he received the kingdom from his father ;
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.Hi J42:
You say:
Quote And man's rule has to end first before we can say that Christ is ruling. The scripture states:
Quote Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne. 1Cr 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
While it is true that all things are not under his feet at the present. He is definitely ruling at the present time. He is my Lord.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Jan. 27 2013,13:11) Hi J42: You say:
Quote And man's rule has to end first before we can say that Christ is ruling. The scripture states:
Quote Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne. 1Cr 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
While it is true that all things are not under his feet at the present. He is definitely ruling at the present time. He is my Lord.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.He is the king of of all the true believers,and the accepted. In our heats only,not yet in the physical.
Anyone that believe in their heart; that Jesus is Lord,he is Lord indeed in our hearts.He will physically rule in jerusalem but.
At the moment,he is sitting next to his Father.All his enemies must be put under his feet before he will rule. This is not yet.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 27 2013,15:50) 942767,Jan. wrote:Hi J42:
You say:
Quote And man's rule has to end first before we can say that Christ is ruling. The scripture states:
Quote Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne. Quote 1Cr 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. While it is true that all things are not under his feet at the present. He is definitely ruling at the present time. He is my Lord.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.He is the king of of all the true believers,and the accepted. In our heats only,not yet in the physical.
Anyone that believe in their heart; that Jesus is Lord,he is Lord indeed in our hearts.He will physically rule in jerusalem but.
At the moment,he is sitting next to his Father.All his enemies must be put under his feet before he will rule. This is not yet.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:It seems to me that he is already ruling as he said the following:
Quote Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Love in Christ,
MartyHi Marty,
If Wakeup would get his mind off of pie in the sky futurism,
he would be able to see that much of God's Prophecy is already fulfilled.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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