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- August 10, 2012 at 9:30 am#308746journey42Participant
Terra
At least you are having a go at prophesies. The rest stay stuck on the same subject for years.
And they shouldn't be afraid, to have a go. We have only been hard at you at times because when we first came on, you would accuse us of lying and strongly put down. But you don't do that anymore, and that's good Pierre, you have changed, and I have noticed.The prophesy's are there for everybody who wants to know, because they concern the last days, and we are in the last days.
August 10, 2012 at 8:54 pm#308769terrariccaParticipantj42
Quote But you don't do that anymore, and that's good Pierre, you have changed, and I have noticed. August 11, 2012 at 6:47 am#308802WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2012,07:54) j42 Quote But you don't do that anymore, and that's good Pierre, you have changed, and I have noticed.
Terra.What she is saying is; youre a good boy;you must have been born again,I hope you dont think that you are spirit now.
Pinch your self,does it still hurt? If it does,then you are still flesh.(just joking).wakeup.
August 11, 2012 at 2:32 pm#308816terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,00:47) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2012,07:54) j42 Quote But you don't do that anymore, and that's good Pierre, you have changed, and I have noticed.
Terra.What she is saying is; youre a good boy;you must have been born again,I hope you dont think that you are spirit now.
Pinch your self,does it still hurt? If it does,then you are still flesh.(just joking).wakeup.
August 20, 2012 at 12:40 am#309844942767ParticipantHi J42:
I have read what you have stated, but I am still studying and asking the Lord for understanding, and I am therefore, not totally ready to discuss this. However, I will say that I believe that you are correct in stating that Daniel 7 is a separate vision from Daniel 2. The end time beast the eighth comes out of the 7 empires. It is not the Roman empire because it was in existence at the time that John was writing this. I hve explained what I mean by the scriptures below:
Quote Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. Quote Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is,(This is the Roman Empire) [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space Love in Christ,
MartyAugust 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm#310047journey42ParticipantQuote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2012,11:40) Hi J42: I have read what you have stated, but I am still studying and asking the Lord for understanding, and I am therefore, not totally ready to discuss this. However, I will say that I believe that you are correct in stating that Daniel 7 is a separate vision from Daniel 2. The end time beast the eighth comes out of the 7 empires. It is not the Roman empire because it was in existence at the time that John was writing this. I hve explained what I mean by the scriptures below:
Quote Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. Quote Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is,(This is the Roman Empire) [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi MartyI'm so glad that you can see it for yourself.
Praise the Lord. The holy spirit revealed that to you.Thanks for getting back to me, I like your humble approach to the scriptures.
August 24, 2012 at 10:56 pm#310479WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2012,07:54) j42 Quote But you don't do that anymore, and that's good Pierre, you have changed, and I have noticed.
Terra.read this slowly and study it,before you say anything.The image in Daniel: Starting with the 3th head(bab.):
The first head is egypt;2nd head is assyria.(not mentioned here).In this dream.
1. The head,is babylon, with their religion.
2.The breast and arms, medo persia,with their religion.
3. The belly and thighs,greecia,with their religion.
4. The legs, rome,with the roman religion.
5. The feet,part of the legs,END TIME rome,with a mixed people and mixed religion.
6.The 10 toes,part of the feet,with a mixed people and mixed religion: But when the false prophet comes,he will stop all religions,so all must worship him alone as god;and nothing else.
And he will do this by forcing every body to have the mark,or one can not buy or sell.
manufacturers can not import or export without the number. And we can not get work,or buy food.
we all must have that number.
We all must obey the new rules and regulations to show our worship to him,or we die.The muslem countries and all countries must have that number or they can not do business.No import or export.
All must be registered to the false prophet,because the number is his name.Pray that the Christians will have the strength to refuse that number.
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Now you will ask: in daniel 7 there are only 4 beast mentioned; how come there are so many here?Because in Dan 7. he only saw 4 beasts,but not fully explained about the 4th dreadful beast. It only says that this dreadful beast will be cast in the fire,and this tells us that he is the last beast.
1. Medo.
2. persia.
3. greecia.(from here God stops mentioning names).
4. This is the trick God puts infront of us to find out.(to seek).He never mentioned rome,and also after rome;but just this dreadful beast that will be cast in the fire.But this is enough for us to find out.This dreadful beast suppose to be old rome; yes it is still rome but the END TIME ROME. the end time empire that is going to be cast into the lake of fire at the coming.
Daniel SAW UNTILL;(7:11). the beast was slain and given to the burning flame. The same burning flame as in rev.19:20.and the same dreadful beast and the LITTLE HORN; or the same 10 kings and the false prophet.
wakeup.
August 25, 2012 at 12:25 am#310493terrariccaParticipantwup
Quote 5. The feet,part of the legs,END TIME rome,with a mixed people and mixed religion. 6.The 10 toes,part of the feet,with a mixed people and mixed religion: But when the false prophet comes,he will stop all religions,so all must worship him alone as god;and nothing else.
most of the other items i agree with;but those two can you show scriptures for it
August 25, 2012 at 12:34 pm#310535WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,11:25) wup Quote 5. The feet,part of the legs,END TIME rome,with a mixed people and mixed religion. 6.The 10 toes,part of the feet,with a mixed people and mixed religion: But when the false prophet comes,he will stop all religions,so all must worship him alone as god;and nothing else.
most of the other items i agree with;but those two can you show scriptures for it
Terra.I know its hard to except,it would be the same with me if I was in your place.
But let the scriptures be the judge,it MUST stay in harmony,or it is the wrong explanation.The 6th head, are the legs(pure iron).(pure roman).
Then comes the 7th. the feet.(not pure,but mixed).(mixed rome).
And after the 7th. must come(future), the 8th of course; and that is the 10 toes.(also mixed) and 10 kings.And the litle horn will come up after; soon after.
NO MORE EMPIRES (kingdoms) after this; except Christs kingdom.It is good to disagree after you have read it carefully; that way one can not believe just anything,but check it out first.
Now lets discus the reasons why you dont believe the 5th and the 6th.
If you can proof me wrong,I will be happy,because I can improve my self.
wakeup.
August 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm#310561terrariccaParticipantwup
Quote 1)Da 2:37 You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory;You are that head of gold;;; 2)+3+4+= Da 2:39 “After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth.
Da 2:40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron;and so Daniel explain more details about the fourth one ;;for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.
Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.WHERE DOES IT TALKS ABOUT A FIFTH KING??? IT IS NOT THERE
Edited by terraricca on July 20 2012,14:57
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Pierre
i am just a fishermanthis is my answer to your questions,
within the first 3 pages of this topic ,I have showed you what you are doing but of no results ,all becomes useless
August 26, 2012 at 1:00 am#310600WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2012,03:33) wup Quote 1)Da 2:37 You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory;You are that head of gold;;; 2)+3+4+= Da 2:39 “After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth.
Da 2:40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron;and so Daniel explain more details about the fourth one ;;for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.
Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.WHERE DOES IT TALKS ABOUT A FIFTH KING??? IT IS NOT THERE
Edited by terraricca on July 20 2012,14:57
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Pierre
i am just a fishermanthis is my answer to your questions,
within the first 3 pages of this topic ,I have showed you what you are doing but of no results ,all becomes useless
Terra.Did I not say that the feet is the same roman empire, but a mixed roman empire? its not pure iron.(it is still roman).
The toes also the same roman empire but a mixed roman empire?(it is still roman).
This last mixed roman empire will have 10 toes(10kings).
Why did God not mention the roman empire?
Only the3 empires before was mentioned by name.
Never the roman empire.The 4th empire; the legs.
from the legs it TRANSFORMS into the feet,from the feet it TRANSFORMS into the toes.I have just giving them numbers and you get confused.
wakeup.
August 26, 2012 at 2:29 am#310611terrariccaParticipantwup
Quote I have just giving them numbers and you get confused. wakeup.
it is because I am not confused that we still talking
you have a great difficulty to stay on and in scriptures ;Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.wen it says “SO THIS KINGDOM ” witch kingdom does Daniel understand the Angel talking about
August 26, 2012 at 7:05 am#310625WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2012,13:29) wup Quote I have just giving them numbers and you get confused. wakeup.
it is because I am not confused that we still talking
you have a great difficulty to stay on and in scriptures ;Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.wen it says “SO THIS KINGDOM ” witch kingdom does Daniel understand the Angel talking about
Terra.We are in a kingdom today that is mixed. yes/no?
Some are strong and some are weak. yes /no?
They work together,but can not agree.yes/no/?Because we are now living in that mixed kingdom,and this is the 7th. What comes after 7?
After 7 comes 8 and this will be the last.(end).
There is no 9.wakeup.
August 26, 2012 at 1:40 pm#310638Ed JParticipantHi Wakeup,
Dan 2:38-45 (1)Thou art this head of gold.
(2)And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
(3)and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
(4)And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things:Where's YOUR FIFTH (5) hypothetical kingdom mentioned here?
and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 26, 2012 at 1:41 pm#310639terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2012,01:05) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2012,13:29) wup Quote I have just giving them numbers and you get confused. wakeup.
it is because I am not confused that we still talking
you have a great difficulty to stay on and in scriptures ;Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.wen it says “SO THIS KINGDOM ” witch kingdom does Daniel understand the Angel talking about
Terra.We are in a kingdom today that is mixed. yes/no?
Some are strong and some are weak. yes /no?
They work together,but can not agree.yes/no/?Because we are now living in that mixed kingdom,and this is the 7th. What comes after 7?
After 7 comes 8 and this will be the last.(end).
There is no 9.wakeup.
wupwhat I try to say to you ,is that call anyone THE SON OF SATAN as no direction ,because either you are Gods offspring or the offspring of the opposition what means of Satan ,that's mean the all what is not of God is of Satan right yes
so wen scriptures talk about one ,you also have to understand that it talks about the other,but in the opposite direction,
All the beast are of Satan ,so was Nebut. but what is it that God does with all of them why are those beast even mention into Gods word if not for the righteous ,is not the righteous out of this world the righteous as no part in this world ,so why all those details in what going or will to be happen
please answer all of the questions
THEIR ALWAYS WAS STRONG AND WEAK POWERS THIS IS WHY IT COULD BE OVERTROWNED ,BUT IF GOD MAKE IT HAPPEN IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HE HIS STRONG OR NOT.
scriptures saying that THAT KINGDOM (head six) will in time become a divided within it self ,AND HISTORY SHOWS THAT ,INSIDE WARS BETWEEN GENERALS ,DIVISION AND CHANGING CAPITAL FROM WEST TO EAST (FROM ROME TO CONSTANTINOPLE)and more
August 26, 2012 at 3:24 pm#310670WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,00:40) Hi Wakeup, Dan 2:38-45 (1)Thou art this head of gold.
(2)And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
(3)and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
(4)And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things:Where's YOUR FIFTH (5) hypothetical kingdom mentioned here?
and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Where is the 5th?
Good question,and where is the 6th, and the 7th, and the 8th.
I must have plucked it from the air.
Or I must have had a nightmare.How does egypt,assyria,babylon,medo persia,greecia,rome. come into the picture;this is yours to solve.(there are more than four).why?
wakeup.
August 26, 2012 at 8:58 pm#310706Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2012,02:24) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,00:40) Hi Wakeup, Dan 2:38-45 (1)Thou art this head of gold.
(2)And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
(3)and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
(4)And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things:Where's YOUR FIFTH (5) hypothetical kingdom mentioned here?
and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Where is the 5th?
Good question,and where is the 6th, and the 7th, and the 8th.
I must have plucked it from the air.
Or I must have had a nightmare.How does egypt,assyria,babylon,medo persia,greecia,rome. come into the picture;this is yours to solve.(there are more than four).why?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeuo,Did you NOT say that the toes represented a different empire – yes or no?
August 26, 2012 at 9:46 pm#310716WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,07:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2012,02:24) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,00:40) Hi Wakeup, Dan 2:38-45 (1)Thou art this head of gold.
(2)And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
(3)and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
(4)And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things:Where's YOUR FIFTH (5) hypothetical kingdom mentioned here?
and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Where is the 5th?
Good question,and where is the 6th, and the 7th, and the 8th.
I must have plucked it from the air.
Or I must have had a nightmare.How does egypt,assyria,babylon,medo persia,greecia,rome. come into the picture;this is yours to solve.(there are more than four).why?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeuo,Did you NOT say that the toes represented a different empire – yes or no?
Edj.The roots are roman,and as time past it tranfomed it self into the new roman,a mixed nation.
wakeup.
August 26, 2012 at 10:23 pm#310722Ed JParticipantHi Wakeup,
Nebuchadnezzar's statue fell by “a stone” made without hands.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 26, 2012 at 10:25 pm#310724Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,09:23) Hi Wakeup, Nebuchadnezzar's statue fell by “a stone” made without hands.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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