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  • #308436
    terraricca
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 07 2012,21:09)
    Terra.

    See Mat.19:28.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
    Mt 19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
    Mt 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

    REV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
    REV 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps.
    REV 14:3 And they *sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders ; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.

    4 creatures + the Elders + 144k before the throne of God and the Lamb,

    SO WHO ARE THE 24 ELDERS YOU SAY ???

    #308442
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2012,16:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 07 2012,21:09)
    Terra.

    See Mat.19:28.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
    Mt 19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
    Mt 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

    REV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
    REV 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps.
    REV 14:3 And they *sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders ; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.

    4 creatures + the Elders + 144k  before the throne of God and the Lamb,

    SO WHO ARE THE 24 ELDERS YOU SAY ???


    Terra.

    Jesus spoke to his 12 apostles;you will sit in 12 thrones.
    I told you I dont know exactly who the other 12 are,could be the old prophets? But we only know who the 12 are.

    The 144000 are not yet in heaven;they will be resurrected first at the coming.
    Before the 1st angel sound the trumpet,these 144000 will be sealed first. Then the first trumpet will sound.

    wakeup.

    #308491
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 08 2012,01:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2012,16:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 07 2012,21:09)
    Terra.

    See Mat.19:28.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
    Mt 19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
    Mt 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

    REV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
    REV 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps.
    REV 14:3 And they *sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders ; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.

    4 creatures + the Elders + 144k  before the throne of God and the Lamb,

    SO WHO ARE THE 24 ELDERS YOU SAY ???


    Terra.

    Jesus spoke to his 12 apostles;you will sit in 12 thrones.
    I told you I dont know exactly who the other 12 are,could be the old prophets? But we only know who the 12 are.

    The 144000 are not yet in heaven;they will be resurrected first at the coming.
    Before the 1st angel sound the trumpet,these 144000 will be sealed first. Then the first trumpet will sound.

    wakeup.


    wup

    so the apostles(24 elders) are before Christ and the 144k in your vision ,

    why ??? scriptures please ?? what is your base for this ???

    did you lost your sens of direction???

    #308523
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,04:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 08 2012,01:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2012,16:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 07 2012,21:09)
    Terra.

    See Mat.19:28.

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
    Mt 19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
    Mt 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

    REV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
    REV 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps.
    REV 14:3 And they *sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders ; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.

    4 creatures + the Elders + 144k  before the throne of God and the Lamb,

    SO WHO ARE THE 24 ELDERS YOU SAY ???


    Terra.

    Jesus spoke to his 12 apostles;you will sit in 12 thrones.
    I told you I dont know exactly who the other 12 are,could be the old prophets? But we only know who the 12 are.

    The 144000 are not yet in heaven;they will be resurrected first at the coming.
    Before the 1st angel sound the trumpet,these 144000 will be sealed first. Then the first trumpet will sound.

    wakeup.


    wup

    so the apostles(24 elders) are before Christ and the 144k in your vision ,

    why ??? scriptures please ?? what is your base for this ???

    did you lost your sens of direction???


    Terra,

    The book of revelation is written long afer the resurection of Christ,so how can the 12 elders be before Chist? rev4:10).

    I dont understand why you asked such a question?

    wakeup.

    #308532
    terraricca
    Participant

    Wup

    You do not read my quotes to you and so ask me questions that I have answered you days before,

    You also not answer my questions,and keep try to make me believe that 12 equals 24 ,I am not that dumd :D

    #308536
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,17:37)
    Wup

    You do not read my quotes to you and so ask me questions that I have answered you days before,

    You also not answer my questions,and keep try to make me believe that 12 equals 24 ,I am not that dumd :D


    Terra.

    I have shown you to read Mat 19:28. 12 thrones for the 12 apostles. The other 12; I am not sure; COULD BE THE 12 ELDERS OF THE OLD PROPHETS. MAY BE ABRAHAM,ISAAC,JACOB.I am guessing,so just take it with a grain of salt. But the first 12 is in scripture.

    wakeup.

    #308540
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,00:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,17:37)
    Wup

    You do not read my quotes to you and so ask me questions that I have answered you days before,

    You also not answer my questions,and keep try to make me believe that 12 equals 24 ,I am not that dumd :D


    Terra.

    I have shown you to read Mat 19:28. 12 thrones for the 12 apostles. The other 12; I am not sure; COULD BE THE 12 ELDERS OF THE OLD PROPHETS. MAY BE ABRAHAM,ISAAC,JACOB.I am guessing,so just take it with a grain of salt. But the first 12 is in scripture.

    wakeup.


    Wup

    Is that your truth you have ???

    This to me is ignorance ,24 equals 24 not 12 so your assumption is wrong,an so untrue

    #308550
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,17:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,00:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,17:37)
    Wup

    You do not read my quotes to you and so ask me questions that I have answered you days before,

    You also not answer my questions,and keep try to make me believe that 12 equals 24 ,I am not that dumd :D


    Terra.

    I have shown you to read Mat 19:28. 12 thrones for the 12 apostles. The other 12; I am not sure; COULD BE THE 12 ELDERS OF THE OLD PROPHETS. MAY BE ABRAHAM,ISAAC,JACOB.I am guessing,so just take it with a grain of salt. But the first 12 is in scripture.

    wakeup.


    Wup

    Is that your truth you have ???

    This to me is ignorance ,24 equals 24 not 12 so your assumption is wrong,an so untrue


    Terra.

    So who are the other 12 then?

    wakeup.

    #308562
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,02:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,17:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,00:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2012,17:37)
    Wup

    You do not read my quotes to you and so ask me questions that I have answered you days before,

    You also not answer my questions,and keep try to make me believe that 12 equals 24 ,I am not that dumd :D


    Terra.

    I have shown you to read Mat 19:28. 12 thrones for the 12 apostles. The other 12; I am not sure; COULD BE THE 12 ELDERS OF THE OLD PROPHETS. MAY BE ABRAHAM,ISAAC,JACOB.I am guessing,so just take it with a grain of salt. But the first 12 is in scripture.

    wakeup.


    Wup

    Is that your truth you have ???

    This to me is ignorance ,24 equals 24 not 12 so your assumption is wrong,an so untrue


    Terra.

    So who are the other 12 then?

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    So who are the other 12 then?

    wrong question;it should be who are the 24 elders ???

    and who are the four living creatures,

    but one thing is sure is that Christ disciples including the 144 k are with him at all time so says scriptures,

    and in the scriptures i have shown you ,you can see that the 24 elders are not with Christ but before Gods throne ,so they could not be none of the apostles or patriarch ,

    if you go back at the time when Moses received the description of the tent ,and the description of the priests service ,their were 24 priest assigned to the service to God right ??? yes ,I believe that they are a representation to what the elders are in heaven

    #308580
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    What about mat.19:28. Can you explain?

    wakeup.

    #308595
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,16:22)
    Terra.

    What about mat.19:28. Can you explain?

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    at the renewal of all things

    when is this ???

    Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
    Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
    Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
    Rev 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
    Rev 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

    so that will happen at the end of all things ,that is to happen to bring all things under God rule,

    #308601
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2012,10:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,16:22)
    Terra.

    What about mat.19:28. Can you explain?

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    at the renewal of all things

    when is this ???

    Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
    Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
    Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
    Rev 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
    Rev 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

    so that will happen at the end of all things ,that is to happen to bring all things under God rule,


    Terra.

    Mat 19:28 says: You will be judging the 12 tribes of israel:
    And you are wondering to the finish of Gods work on earth,when all is done, made new.How come?

    wakeup.

    #308619
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,17:42)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2012,10:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,16:22)
    Terra.

    What about mat.19:28. Can you explain?

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    at the renewal of all things

    when is this ???

    Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
    Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
    Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
    Rev 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
    Rev 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

    so that will happen at the end of all things ,that is to happen to bring all things under God rule,


    Terra.

    Mat 19:28 says: You will be judging the 12 tribes of israel:
    And you are wondering to the finish of Gods work on earth,when all is done, made new.How come?

    wakeup.


    wup

    do you not understand nothing ???

    there will be only one city in those days and one nation

    the city is Jerusalem and the nation is Israel ,and the ones that will be there to judge all things are the 144k with Christ

    because the heavenly Jerusalem comes down from heaven and will rule the earth

    and all the people of the earth will be divided into 12 areas just like it was in the promised land long ago

    #308643
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2012,12:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,17:42)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2012,10:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 09 2012,16:22)
    Terra.

    What about mat.19:28. Can you explain?

    wakeup.


    wup

    Mt 19:28 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    at the renewal of all things

    when is this ???

    Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
    Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
    Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
    Rev 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
    Rev 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

    so that will happen at the end of all things ,that is to happen to bring all things under God rule,


    Terra.

    Mat 19:28 says: You will be judging the 12 tribes of israel:
    And you are wondering to the finish of Gods work on earth,when all is done, made new.How come?

    wakeup.


    wup

    do you not understand nothing ???

    there will be only one city in those days and one nation

    the city is Jerusalem and the nation is Israel ,and the ones that will be there to judge all things are the 144k with Christ

    because the heavenly Jerusalem comes down from heaven and will rule the earth

    and all the people of the earth will be divided into 12 areas just like it was in the promised land long ago


    Terra.

    Scriptures please.

    wakeup.

    #308653
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    here some scriptures::

    Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
    Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
    Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
    Rev 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
    Rev 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
    Rev 21:6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.
    Rev 21:7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
    Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
    Rev 21:9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.”
    Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.
    Rev 21:11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.
    Rev 21:12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
    Rev 21:13 There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west.
    Rev 21:14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
    Rev 21:15 The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls.
    Rev 21:16 The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia in length, and as wide and high as it is long.
    Rev 21:17 He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits thick, by man’s measurement, which the angel was using.
    Rev 21:18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass.
    Rev 21:19 The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald,
    Rev 21:20 the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.
    Rev 21:21 The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.
    Rev 21:22 I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
    Rev 21:23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.
    Rev 21:24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it.
    Rev 21:25 On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.
    Rev 21:26 The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.
    Rev 21:27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

    The River of Life

    Rev 22:1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb
    Rev 22:2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.
    Rev 22:3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.
    Rev 22:4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads.
    Rev 22:5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.
    Rev 22:6 The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”

    Eze 20:4 “Will you judge them? Will you judge them, son of man? Then confront them with the detestable practices of their fathers
    Eze 20:5 and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On the day I chose Israel, I swore with uplifted hand to the descendants of the house of Jacob and revealed myself to them in Egypt. With uplifted hand I said to them, “I am the LORD your God.”
    Eze 20:6 On that day I swore to them that I would bring them out of Egypt into a land I had searched out for them, a land flowing with milk and honey, the most beautiful of all lands.
    Eze 20:7 And I said to them, “Each of you, get rid of the vile images you have set your eyes on, and do not defile yourselves with the idols of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.”
    Eze 20:8 “ ‘But they rebelled against me and would not listen to me; they did not get rid of the vile images they had set their eyes on, nor did they forsake the idols of Egypt. So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and spend my anger against them in Egypt.
    Eze 20:9 But for the sake of my name I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nations they lived among and in whose sight I had revealed myself to the Israelites by bringing them out of Egypt.
    Eze 20:10 Therefore I led them out of Egypt and brought them into the desert.
    Eze 20:11 I gave them my decrees and made known to them my laws, for the man who obeys them will live by them.
    Eze 20:12 Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the LORD made them holy.
    Eze 20:13 “ ‘Yet the people of Israel rebelled against me in the desert. They did not follow my decrees but rejected my laws—although the man who obeys them will live by them—and they utterly desecrated my Sabbaths. So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and destroy them in the desert.
    Eze 20:14 But for the sake of my name I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nations in whose sight I had brought them out.
    Eze 20:15 Also with uplifted hand I swore to them in the desert that I would not bring them into the land I had given them—a land flowing with milk and honey, most beautiful of all lands—
    Eze 20:16 because they rejected my laws and did not follow my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths. For their hearts were devoted to their idols.
    Eze 20:17 Yet I looked on them with pity and did not destroy them or put an end to them in the desert.
    Eze 20:18 I said to their children in the desert, “Do not follow the statutes of your fathers or keep their laws or defile yourselves with their idols.
    Eze 20:19 I am the LORD your God; follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
    Eze 20:20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God.”
    Eze 20:21 “ ‘But the children rebelled against me: They did not follow my decrees, they were not careful to keep my laws—although the man who obeys them will live by them—and they desecrated my Sabbaths. So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and spend
    my anger against them in the desert.
    Eze 20:22 But I withheld my hand, and for the sake of my name I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nations in whose sight I had brought them out.
    Eze 20:23 Also with uplifted hand I swore to them in the desert that I would disperse them among the nations and scatter them through the countries,
    Eze 20:24 because they had not obeyed my laws but had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths, and their eyes lusted after their fathers’ idols.
    Eze 20:25 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by;
    Eze 20:26 I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.’
    Eze 20:27 “Therefore, son of man, speak to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In this also your fathers blasphemed me by forsaking me:
    Eze 20:28 When I brought them into the land I had sworn to give them and they saw any high hill or any leafy tree, there they offered their sacrifices, made offerings that provoked me to anger, presented their fragrant incense and poured out their drink offerings.
    Eze 20:29 Then I said to them: What is this high place you go to?’ ” (It is called Bamah to this day.)

    Eze 20:32 “ ‘You say, “We want to be like the nations, like the peoples of the world, who serve wood and stone.” But what you have in mind will never happen.
    Eze 20:33 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I will rule over you with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath.
    Eze 20:34 I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered—with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath.
    Eze 20:35 I will bring you into the desert of the nations and there, face to face, I will execute judgment upon you.
    Eze 20:36 As I judged your fathers in the desert of the land of Egypt, so I will judge you, declares the Sovereign LORD.
    Eze 20:37 I will take note of you as you pass under my rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant.
    Eze 20:38 I will purge you of those who revolt and rebel against me. Although I will bring them out of the land where they are living, yet they will not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD.
    Eze 20:39 “ ‘As for you, O house of Israel, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Go and serve your idols, every one of you! But afterward you will surely listen to me and no longer profane my holy name with your gifts and idols.
    Eze 20:40 For on my holy mountain, the high mountain of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD, there in the land the entire house of Israel will serve me, and there I will accept them. There I will require your offerings and your choice gifts, along with all your holy sacrifices.
    Eze 20:41 I will accept you as fragrant incense when I bring you out from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will show myself holy among you in the sight of the nations.
    Eze 20:42 Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I bring you into the land of Israel, the land I had sworn with uplifted hand to give to your fathers.
    Eze 20:43 There you will remember your conduct and all the actions by which you have defiled yourselves, and you will loathe yourselves for all the evil you have done.
    Eze 20:44 You will know that I am the LORD, when I deal with you for my name’s sake and not according to your evil ways and your corrupt practices, O house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.’

    #308702
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    What must happen BEFORE the new heavens and the new earth? What about the 7 trumpets,The false prophet,the number, THE 10 KINGS etc,etc.step by step. Not a combination chowmein

    wakeup.

    #308708
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 10 2012,20:31)
    Terra.

    What must happen BEFORE the new heavens and the new earth? What about the 7 trumpets,The false prophet,the number, THE 10 KINGS etc,etc.step by step. Not a combination chowmein

    wakeup.


    wup

    what about Daniel 2;44-45 ???

    #308741
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,14:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 10 2012,20:31)
    Terra.

    What must happen BEFORE the new heavens and the new earth? What about the 7 trumpets,The false prophet,the number, THE 10 KINGS etc,etc.step by step. Not a combination chowmein

    wakeup.


    wup

    what about Daniel 2;44-45 ???


    Pierre,

    You are explaining Revelations which means to “reveal.”
    You missed out the verses leading up to the heaven & earth being renewed?

    #308744
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 11 2012,01:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,14:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 10 2012,20:31)
    Terra.

    What must happen BEFORE the new heavens and the new earth? What about the 7 trumpets,The false prophet,the number, THE 10 KINGS etc,etc.step by step. Not a combination chowmein

    wakeup.


    wup

    what about Daniel 2;44-45 ???


    Pierre,

    You are explaining Revelations which means to “reveal.”
    You missed out the verses leading up to the heaven & earth being renewed?


    J42

    I know but if I do ,I may not use the KJV and so may be not be true as per your vision of things

    #308745
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,18:53)

    Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 11 2012,01:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,14:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 10 2012,20:31)
    Terra.

    What must happen BEFORE the new heavens and the new earth? What about the 7 trumpets,The false prophet,the number, THE 10 KINGS etc,etc.step by step. Not a combination chowmein

    wakeup.


    wup

    what about Daniel 2;44-45 ???


    Pierre,

    You are explaining Revelations which means to “reveal.”
    You missed out the verses leading up to the heaven & earth being renewed?


    J42

    I know but if I do ,I may not use the KJV and so may be not be true as per your vision of things


    Pierre

    If you want to read your translation, read it. No one is stopping you. But when two people argue over scripture like “cut down kingdoms” verses “build up kingdoms” then we have a problem. The Word of God has no substance then.

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