The Son of man

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  • #285792
    Ed J
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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,17:24)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2012,00:17)
    Hi BD,
    Jesus was a mere sinless man.
    Jesus Christ is the man transformed by unity with the Spirit.


    N

    After  or before his birth ?or after his dead ?


    Hi Pierre,

    Not that I agree with Nick mind you,
    but is not clear to YOU what he means?

    Do you really want an answer?
    Is that not a dumb question?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #285796
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    He was found sinless by obedience to the Law and fit for infilling with the HOLY Spirit at the age of 30.

    There he was infilled and transformed and empowered

    #285812
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Please correct me if I am wrong.
    What was your view?

    #285815
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Only men had something to gain from the decision of the Word to come as flesh and reconcile us with God.
    The Word was with God and was God.

    Becoming as a servant to God for the sake of men was an unselfish and risky move.
    Such faith for our sake.

    Jesus Christ

    #285821
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,19:09)
    Hi Ed,
    Please correct me if I am wrong.
    What was your view?


    Hi Nick,

                            Jesus lineage illustrated (as per the bible)

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    Birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    Baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #285825
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    So his sonship to God we cannot follow?

    Yes we can by rebirth from above.

    #285835
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,19:43)

      his sonship to God we cannot follow?


    Hi Nick,

    What do you mean?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #285895
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    We cannot follow his sonship to God by conception.
    Nicodemus clarified this position.

    Flesh begets flesh but the Spirit begets sonship to God as at the Jordan.

    #285903
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick, you mean this?

    Romans 8:14-19 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption,
    whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
    For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
    For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #285921
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Yes adopted sonship in Jesus Christ by the Spirit.

    #285926
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2012,05:49)
    Hi ED,
    Yes adopted sonship in Jesus Christ by the Spirit.


    Hi Nick,

    We sure do agree a lot! :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #285928
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    1cor 15
    23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

    24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    None can refuse the reign of Jesus Christ.
    He is Lord of all.[acts 10.36]

    #285932
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2012,06:07)
    Hi ED,
    1cor 15
    23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

    24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    None can refuse the reign of Jesus Christ.
    He is Lord of all.[acts 10.36]


    Hi Nick,

    Romans 8:17-19 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
    if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings
    of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
    For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God

            the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14)
            compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

        The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
        maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)

        1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
        incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

        Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
        that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #285933
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
    prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
    the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
    AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
                                                                                    (86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)

    “The Word”(HolySpirit) is called KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS in Revelation 19:16.
    LORD of Lords(117) is 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD), the “God Spirit”(117). (John 14:28 / Rev.1:5)
    KING of Kings(101) is GOD(26) ((26)יהוה), because 101 is the 26th prime number. (Psalm 29:10 / Psalm 10:16)


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

    #285935
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Indeed he is the first fruits as are those in him.
    Nonetheless all must appear before the tribunal of Christ to account for their stewardship according to the talents given them.[2 cor 5.10, Lk 19.13f]

    Our service to God is measured first towards His appointed Lord.
    There is an order of authority[lk 7.6f]

    #285941
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    YHVH is “KING of Kings” and “LORD of Lords”! (Psalm 10:16, 29:10 / Deut.10:17, Psalm 136:3)

    1 Cor 15:27-28 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him,
    it is manifest that he(JEHOVAH) is excepted, which did put all things under him(Jesus).
    And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
    then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #285942
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 19 2012,06:45)
    Hi Nick,

    “The Word”(HolySpirit) is called KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS in Revelation 19:16.
    LORD of Lords(117) is 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD), the “God Spirit”(117). (John 14:28 / Rev.1:5)
    KING of Kings(101) is GOD(26) ((26)יהוה), because 101 is the 26th prime number. (Psalm 29:10 / Psalm 10:16)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Nick,

                          “JEHOVAH Son”=117

    Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
    and I [117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)] will be his God, and he shall be my son.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #285946
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2012,13:07)
    Hi ED,
    1cor 15
    23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

    24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    None can refuse the reign of Jesus Christ.
    He is Lord of all.[acts 10.36]


    N

    Quote
    Hi ED,
    1cor 15
    23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

    1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
    1Co 15:23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

    it seems to me that their are three groups ;

    Christ then the first fruits (144k) then later wen he comes THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM

    #285948
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Indeed the Son is subject to the Father.
    And we are subject to the Son.

    #285957
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    You have not overcome yet?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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