The redemption of the nazarenes

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  • #384748
    Wakeup
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    Quote (keras @ May 27 2014,15:02)
    Journey 42, I am addressing you. WU and Nick chime in too.
    You don't even mention the 6th Seal in your lengthy posts, the event that will start the end times countdown.
    All what you say will happen, but what sets the stage is the Sixth Seal worldwide devastation.
    I don't separate the Trumpets and Vials, they are all part of the 3.5 year G.T.
    As Nick quotes in 2 Peter 3:7 the world is reserved for a fire judgement. Where does that fit in your end time scene?


    Hi Keras.

    The signs in the sixth seal is the coming;
    and is also the seventh trumpet, which is the coming.

    The 6th 5th 4th 3th 2nd 1st trumpets;are happenings before the coming; before the 7th trump.

    Lets put it another way:
    The 6th seal is the last sign which is the 7th trumpet.
    the trumpets before are before the 7th trumpet.
    which also is before the 6th seal.

    Trumpet 1,2,3,4,5,6.>> then seven = the sixth seal; are the signs in detail.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

    #384808
    keras
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    As I thought, you and J42 place the Sixth Seal at the Return.
    I can only suggest that you read it again, along with Isaiah 2:12-22, Isaiah 24:1-23, Isaiah 34:1-8, Isaiah 66:15-16, Joel 2:1-11, 2 Peter 3:7&10, plus over 100 other prophesies that describe the judgement of fire.
    You are in denial of what scripture says if you believe all that happens at the Return. Rev. 6:12-17 isn't telling us about something that will happen later, it occurs when the Seal is removed.
    It would be nice if J42 would admit his error of calling 2300 evenings and mornings, days.
    I just checked a KJV [blew the dust off it] – Daniel 8:14 does say days. So its not your mistake, just another of the many errors of the KJV. However, 'the little horn' v9-12 which was Antiochus Epiphanes and his 1150 day desecration of the 2nd Temple is history.

    #384856
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ May 28 2014,07:22)
    As I thought, you and J42 place the Sixth Seal at the Return.
    I can only suggest that you read it again, along with Isaiah 2:12-22, Isaiah 24:1-23, Isaiah 34:1-8, Isaiah 66:15-16, Joel 2:1-11, 2 Peter 3:7&10, plus over 100 other prophesies that describe the judgement of fire.
    You are in denial of what scripture says if you believe all that happens at the Return. Rev. 6:12-17 isn't telling us about something that will happen later, it occurs when the Seal is removed.
    It would be nice if J42 would admit his error of calling 2300 evenings and mornings, days.
    I just checked a KJV [blew the dust off it] – Daniel 8:14 does say days. So its not your mistake, just another of the many errors of the KJV. However, 'the little horn' v9-12 which was Antiochus Epiphanes and his 1150 day desecration of the 2nd Temple is history.


    Hi Keras.

    Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake:
    ***I beheld even till the beast was slain***,
    ***and his body destroyed, and given to the burning
    flame***.

    Revelation 19:20
    ***And the beast was taken, and with him the false
    prophet that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark
    of the beast, and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
    with brimstone***.

    wakeup.

    #384872
    keras
    Participant

    Is it really so difficult for you to see the difference between the 'little horn' of Dan 8:8-12 that comes out of 4 other horns after the 'he goat' that is obviously Alexander the Great, and the 'beast' that comes out of 10 horns, the One World Govt, Dan 7:7-12. Two separate prophesies, one fulfilled, the other to come.
    I suggest you study more carefully, least you demonstrate yet again your lack of understanding.

    #384950
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ May 28 2014,12:23)
    Is it really so difficult for you to see the difference between the 'little horn' of Dan 8:8-12 that comes out of 4 other horns after the 'he goat' that is obviously Alexander the Great, and the 'beast' that comes out of 10 horns, the One World Govt, Dan 7:7-12. Two separate prophesies, one fulfilled, the other to come.
    I suggest you study more carefully, least you demonstrate yet again your lack of understanding.


    Keras.

    Alexander and his kindom (his beast)was not cast into the lake of fire.The legs of iron was Rome.
    The feet of iron and clay is end time Rome; we are in now.
    The ten toes are coming soon; and will be cast into the lake of fire; with him the false prophet,at the coming.

    Revelation 10:7
    ***But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel***, ***when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should
    be finished***,
    as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    This means the last trumpet is the finish. The End.

    wakeup.

    #385429
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Keras,
    I note you have a apocalypse bunker of a type in your backyard.

    Was this advised by the Lord or because of fear?

    #385489
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2014,07:52)
    Hi Keras,
    I note you have a apocalypse bunker of a type in your backyard.

    Was this advised by the Lord or because of fear?


    ??? :(

    wakeup.

    #385675
    keras
    Participant

    Hi Nick,
    Advised by Isaiah 26:20-21
    Give me a phone call, any evening, we can talk then.

    #385681
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi keras,
    Is 26
    19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

    20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

    21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

    Is there any suggestion this means to hide yourself away as the kings of the earth hide in the caves?

    #385689
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ May 31 2014,07:44)
    Hi Nick,
    Advised by Isaiah 26:20-21
    Give me a phone call, any evening, we can talk then.


    Hi Keras,

    You can PM me, I would be interested in talking to you by phone.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #385736
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi keras,
    The word CHAMBER is likiely to be spiritual.

    .Psalm 19:5
    Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

    Psalm 104:3
    Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:

    Psalm 104:13
    He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works.

    It likely means to meet the Lord in the air IMO

    #385875
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi keras,
    You mean to say that the UK and Britain are comprised of white anglo saxon protestants who are of the lost tribes?
    In what way do those from the churches of protest belong to God?

    They spawned from the roman false church and are under the awful curse of the whore of babylon[rev17-18]

    Come out of her my people lest you suffer for her sins.

    Think how few there were that found favour with God and were rescued in the Ark.
    That Peter gave as an illustration of these times because men prefer to follow men.

    #385927
    keras
    Participant

    Nick, 'chambers' KJV, is translated 'Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the door behind you… REB
    Sure seems like literal advice to me. I intend to follow it.

    True righteous Christians can be found everywhere, in or out of the Church system. They will be saved on the Day of wrath. There will be a vast company. Rev. 7:9

    #385931
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Keras,
    A room is one thing but bringing in a bomb shelter quite another.
    It is to save yourself from the wrath of God?

    #386002
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi keras,
    you say
    “True righteous Christians can be found everywhere, in or out of the Church system. They will be saved on the Day of wrath. There will be a vast company. Rev. 7:9 “

    How do you define these people? How do you define them as righteous?
    How relevant is the CHURCH SYSTEM to the Body of Christ?
    How did you decide these people would be saved?

    Populist human religion lets folk define their own righteousness but God has other ideas.

    #386005
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Keras,
    By CHURCH SYSTEM do you mean the hundreds of denominations that all have different doctrines and hate each other?
    They do not admit to any sort of unity but you can see some?
    Does God accept such a hatefest as being His?

    #386014
    keras
    Participant

    #73 – I believe what Isaiah 30:26 says; the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness… and Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace…
    A CME sunstrike is coming that will cause temperatures of over 100o, earthquakes, violent storms and tsunamis.
    I have an insulated container for my family to shelter in.

    #74 – Only God can see into the heart, He is the judge, He decides who will live and who will die.
    Re the Church; There are many true faithful people, despite the false teachings of a lot of the leaders.
    The Bible tells us who will be saved; Rev 7:14 those who have washed their clothes, wearing the garments of righteousness.

    #386016
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi keras,
    But not those who want to save their own lives?

    #386021
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi keras,
    You say
    “There are many true faithful people, despite the false teachings of a lot of the leaders.”

    Faithful to who? If it was to God they would shake the dust from their feet and leave.

    When did faithfulness alone become a door to the kingdom?

    #386032
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi keras,
    Do you think we should hate what God hates?
    He hates the fruit of the spirit of false religion that will propel many lovely faithful people into the lake of fire.

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