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  • #314237
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 30 2012,10:47)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You didn't watch the video, did you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    yes I did brother.
    He or you can not say that the muslems are ruling the world today.

    Rev.13. says that WHO CAN MAKE WAR WITH THIS BEAST? well; irak was attacked twice by the west;and now afghanistan. and soon will be the rest of the muslem nations.

    Iran is now sandwiched between irak and afghanistan,the western soldiers are there.

    Look what happened in egypt;libya,syria,and the rest.
    And now thinking of taking iran.

    Is this what you call a muslem empire?
    Who is in charge here?

    wakeup.

    #314263
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

          I believe you need to see the maps,
        to see what YHVH was talking about…

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    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314264
    Ed J
    Participant

    Noun:
    em·pire/ˈempī(ə)r/

    An extensive group of states or countries under a single supreme authority, formerly esp. an emperor or empress.

    #314306
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 30 2012,16:48)
    Noun:
    em·pire/ˈempī(ə)r/

    An extensive group of states or countries under a single supreme authority, formerly esp. an emperor or empress.


    EDj.

    Why are you giving us old maps?
    Are you still denying that the west is the empire today?
    I the world trading with the american dollars and the euro today, or with some arab currency?

    wakeup.

    #314333
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Perhaps you don't know much History: It was the western empire (as you call us), Edmund Allenby that gave Israel back her land in 1917.
    The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour
    to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission
    to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

                His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people,
                and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that
                nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities
                in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314335
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 01 2012,09:30)
    EDj.

    Why are you giving us old maps?
    Are you still denying that the west is the empire today?
    I the world trading with the american dollars and the euro today, or with some arab currency?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Those are the seven heads of the Rev.13:1-3 beast.
    The eighth, which we are currently in, is Muhammadin-islam.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314348
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 02 2012,15:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 01 2012,09:30)
    EDj.

    Why are you giving us old maps?
    Are you still denying that the west is the empire today?
    I the world trading with the american dollars and the euro today, or with some arab currency?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Those are the seven heads of the Rev.13:1-3 beast.
    The eighth, which we are currently in, is Muhammadin-islam.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    there is no Islam empire only country's that are partially Muslim or totally Muslim ,they have no power as of yet to be seen this is why they do terrorism,(stands for desperate)

    your map do not show any power only nice colors what is representing were their are Muslims people ,look at what Russia did to the Muslims in Chechen ??

    #314350
    journey42
    Participant

    This is a very interesting article from a NZ paper, although I don't think the article is very recent, but we can see what has been happening since then to the US dollar.
    Whether the EU will reform, or a new body will emerge, we have to wait and see, but we know the new world super power is coming from the european region (north west of Israel) and the new world leader will emerge shortly after, bringing in a new world system for trading.

    Rense.com

    What The Dollar's Collapse
    Will Mean To The World
    By Bruce Porteous
    [email protected]
    11-26-4

    Over the last few days, there has been a number of articles in the media about the steady decline of the $US against the Euro. While many economists have forecasted the possiblity of the dollar declining against the Euro for sometime, most do not comprehend the significance of this. Some believe that the decline of the dollar against the currencies of American's trading partners will help correct the USA's trade deficit, and the dollar will stop falling when the trade imbalance is corrected. However, the evidence is that the opposite is happening – the $US has declined 40% against the Euro over the last 2 years, and during this time America's trade deficit has continues to deteriorate.

    There is now nothing the USA can do to prevent the collapse of its currency, and its economy. It has no reserves to support its value, and has the most indebted country in the world, is dependant of the credit from America's former enemies. Over the last couple of days, both Russia and China have said they will be switching their considerable dollar reserves into Euro. This will only hasten the lack of confidence in the dollar, creating a global lack of confidence in the currency, and setting into free-fall. It will soon bring about the total collapse of the dollar, and the American economy.

    The collapse of the dollar will throw the world into a global depression. Those nations with large external debts will not be able to trade sufficiently to earn the income to service their debts, and will slide into bankruptcy. The economies of New Zealand, Australia, Canada and the UK will also totally collapse, as a result of their indebtedness and not being able to service their borrowings. It will result in the Anglo-Saxon nations facing abject poverty, our people facing starvation, and a total break-down in society. Crime will become rampant. Law and order will cease to exist. Disease will become widespread.

    The Asian economies, which have depended upon American trade, will also be severely affected. However, they will recover after a period, but only after considerable political and economic turmoil.

    The EU will be in a much better position to survive the coming economic chaos. An influx of capital into the Euro zone by those selling dollars will provide the funding for rebuilding the economies of the new United States of Europe. However, the collapse of the $US will still severely affect the already depressed German and French economies. The resulting economic turmoil will create the need for the acceptance of a strong EU leader, who will be able to make the necessary political and economic reforms to enable Europe revive their economies. Those nations that accept the new EU Constitution will come under the control of this new leader, creating Europe as the world's new Super Power.

    The Euro will become the world's only reserve currency, creating the means for the new United States of Europe to become the dominant economic power in the world. The new Europe will be able to dictate the terms on how the global economy should be run. They will take over the administration of America and Britain, placing the Anglo-Saxon people in bondage for repayment of their debts.

    Americans do not appear to comprehend the bitterness that has grown around the world as a result of their illegal invasion of Iraq. While once Europeans looked up to, and admired America; today it is held in utter contempt for its arrogance and warmongering. Anti-European comments in the American media have only added to this hostility towards the US. America's attempt to impose its version of government on the world, its hypocrisy in claiming to be the moral leader of the world, while flooding the media with degenerate filth and garbage, has bought upon it disgust and contempt that few Americans can comprehend.

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    #314389
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Georgie,

    What does the collapse of the U.S. dollar on global trade have to do with this thread?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314392
    journey42
    Participant

    Edj

    Do you agree with this year old article?

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    What does the collapse of the U.S. dollar on global trade have to do with this thread?

    This is what we have been showing you all along, that the beast of Rev 13 with the 10 horns and ten crowns will arise in Europe.  

                “The resulting economic turmoil will create the need for the acceptance of a strong EU leader, who will be able to make the necessary political and economic reforms to enable Europe revive their economies. Those nations that accept the new EU Constitution will come under the control of this new leader, creating Europe as the world's new Super Power”
             “The Euro will become the world's only reserve currency, creating the means for the new United States of Europe to become the dominant economic power in the world. The new Europe will be able to dictate the terms on how the global economy should be run. They will take over the administration of America and Britain, placing the Anglo-Saxon people in bondage for repayment of their debts”

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    Those are the seven heads of the Rev.13:1-3 beast.
    The eighth, which we are currently in, is Muhammadin-islam.

    You are completely wrong here.  The eighth has not yet come, and when it does, it will come from the Europe region.  
    The world trades in US dollars & when the US dollar finally collapses (predicted by the end of this year) then this new system will come in.  This is that beast that Rev 13 speaks of. It will be run by 10 kings, then shortly after the false prophet will lead them. (not Muhammadin-islam) but from Europe.

    #314393
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 03 2012,17:48)
    Edj

    Quote
    What does the collapse of the U.S. dollar on global trade have to do with this thread?

    This is what we have been showing you all along, that the beast of Rev 13 with the 10 horns and ten crowns will arise in Europe.  


    Hi Georgie,

    You have been told wrong. The eighth world empire is
    Muhammadin-islam (and of the seventh) – as the map clearly shows.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314394
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 03 2012,17:48)
    Edj

    Do you agree with this year old article?


    Hi Georgie,

    I've heard the Euro is crashing harder than the dollar.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314404
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 03 2012,18:43)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 03 2012,17:48)
    Edj

    Do you agree with this year old article?


    Hi Georgie,

    I've heard the Euro is crashing harder than the dollar.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    The U.S.,dollar will be dead before the end of this year,this is what I have heard.

    And the Euro will crash after.

    In the keos; the son of perdition will come up; and he will bring peace for one hour.But he will change times and laws,and regulations.
    It will be a new nazi system.

    Just as the nazis persecuted the jews; so will this new nazi system persecute all the spiritual jews.
    Nothing is new under the sun,what is; has been.

    Just as the jews were forced to have a number,so will all be forced to take a number.

    Only the true believers(spiritual jews) will reject that number.

    And this man of perdition will not be mohamad or islam.

    wakeup.

    #314406
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    'The son of perdition' is (i am,) the son that causes perdition – 'perdition' does NOT have a son.  (Link)

    “But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth
    unto the LORD a corrupt thing: for I a great King, saith the “LORD of Hosts”(151),
    and my name is dreadful among the heathen.” (Malachi 1:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314412
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,02:44)
    Hi Wakeup,

    'The son of perdition' is (i am,) the son that causes perdition – 'perdition' does NOT have a son.  (Link)

    “But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth
    unto the LORD a corrupt thing: for I a great King, saith the “LORD of Hosts”(151),
    and my name is dreadful among the heathen.” (Malachi 1:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Maybe the holy spirit made a mistake teaching Paul that there is a SON OF PERDITION,YOU SHOULD MAKE AN ENQUIRY,OR JUST CHANGE IT ACCORDING TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

    But I do believe that perdition (satan ) has a son,as Paul believe.

    wakeup.

    #314417
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 04 2012,03:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,02:44)
    Hi Wakeup,

    'The son of perdition' is (i am,) the son that causes perdition – 'perdition' does NOT have a son.  (Link)

    “But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth
    unto the LORD a corrupt thing: for I a great King, saith the “LORD of Hosts”(151),
    and my name is dreadful among the heathen.” (Malachi 1:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Maybe the holy spirit made a mistake teaching Paul that there is a SON OF PERDITION,YOU SHOULD MAKE AN ENQUIRY,OR JUST CHANGE IT ACCORDING TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

    But I do believe that perdition (satan ) has a son,as Paul believe.

    wakeup.


    The son of perdition is the son that causes perdition.

    #314420
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,04:58)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 04 2012,03:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,02:44)
    Hi Wakeup,

    'The son of perdition' is (i am,) the son that causes perdition – 'perdition' does NOT have a son.  (Link)

    “But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth
    unto the LORD a corrupt thing: for I a great King, saith the “LORD of Hosts”(151),
    and my name is dreadful among the heathen.” (Malachi 1:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Maybe the holy spirit made a mistake teaching Paul that there is a SON OF PERDITION,YOU SHOULD MAKE AN ENQUIRY,OR JUST CHANGE IT ACCORDING TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

    But I do believe that perdition (satan ) has a son,as Paul believe.

    wakeup.


    The son of perdition is the son that causes perdition.


    EdJ.

    Thats just another way of putting it.
    Satan is the cause of all destructions.

    wakeup.

    #314423
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 04 2012,05:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,04:58)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 04 2012,03:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,02:44)
    Hi Wakeup,

    'The son of perdition' is (i am,) the son that causes perdition – 'perdition' does NOT have a son.  (Link)

    “But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth
    unto the LORD a corrupt thing: for I a great King, saith the “LORD of Hosts”(151),
    and my name is dreadful among the heathen.” (Malachi 1:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Maybe the holy spirit made a mistake teaching Paul that there is a SON OF PERDITION,YOU SHOULD MAKE AN ENQUIRY,OR JUST CHANGE IT ACCORDING TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

    But I do believe that perdition (satan ) has a son,as Paul believe.

    wakeup.


    The son of perdition is the son that causes perdition.


    EdJ.

    Thats just another way of putting it.
    Satan is the cause of all destructions.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I'm glad that you agree  –  because that's the ONLY thing it means.
    Destruction, which is what perdition means, does not have children.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314425
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:17)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I'm glad that you agree  –  because that's the ONLY thing it means.
    destruction, which is what perdition means, does not have children.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way,
     that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
     Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life,
     and few there be that find it.” (Matt 7:13-14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314426
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:17)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I'm glad that you agree  –  because that's the ONLY thing it means.
    destruction, which is what perdition means, does not have children.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way,
     that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
     Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life,
     and few there be that find it.” (Matt 7:13-14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Many are called but a few chosen.
    Not many will enter the narrow way.

    wakeup.

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