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Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand this dragon, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3…
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head of gold: Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown …Lion (Daniel 7:4)
Arms of silver: Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown …Bear (Daniel 7:5)
Thighs of brass: Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)
Feet of iron & clay: Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.(See Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14)
The quran prophecyThe beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3 (the leopard-bear-lion-beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Reason for edit: I added more information.All Christians, (please comprehend)
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)
You need to know who our enemy is. (Psalm 83)עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Hi Ed,
Satan spoken of at the time of the millenium when he is incarceratedWAS
IS NOT
AND SHALL ASCEND OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT UNTO PERDITION.He inhabits the beast
Hi Everyone,
Revelation 10:7 “In the days of the voice of the seventh angel,
when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be
finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.”Read and understand:
Rev 17:7-13 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel?
I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her,
which hath the seven heads and ten horns. The beast that thou sawest was,
and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life
from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which
the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other
is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast
that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their
power and strength unto the beast. (If any man have an ear, let him hear. Revelation 13:9)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Hi Ed,
So the woman was seated on a scarlet beast and she was clothed in scarlet and purple=man's religionQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2012,08:54) Hi Ed,
So the woman was seated on a scarlet beast and she was clothed in scarlet and purple=man's religion
Yes Nick, (Link to thread)You are indeed one of the wisest on this board! …Nice thread!
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,07:30) All Christians, (please comprehend) Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)
You need to know who our enemy is. (Psalm 83)עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDJ.I have so far shot to shreds, this doctrine that you love.
You are just clutching straws.
This beautiful doctrine of yours has no place in the prophesies of the bible.Let me show you the errors after errors:That you refuse to see.
1. The lion with the wings in dan.7:4. is not babylon.(so this is one error).
This alone can cuase all the rest of the interpretations gone out of track.(have taken the wrong road).(wrong way/go back).2. The 4th beast with the 10 horns on his head(is on the one head; not on many heads). another error.
3. Daniel said; the 10 horns came first,then the little horn came after.
you put it back to front; mohamad (your so called little horn first,then the ottoman empire comes later). another error.4. The little horn blasphemed against God;and call himself God:
This does not fit your doctrine;mohamad never calls himself God. another error.and mohamad was never cast in the lake of fire. another error.5. Mohamad died 1400yrs ago;
scripture said the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire at his coming,at the 7th trump. another error.6. The seven crowns on the red gragon is mixed up with the 10 horns and 10 crowns. this is another error.
7. you said: the muslem world today is the 8th beast.
Ignoring the might of the west.The muslem world is 200yrs behind in technology. you are ignoring the NWO.Is there a purpose of some kind?Wallid shoebat is having his subjects focussing on the muslems: when we should be focussing on the new world order coming. hallo open your eyes and ears.
Love the truth; not doctrine.
The 4 spirits of the lord is roaming to and fro through all the earth,listening and watching.wakeup.
Hi Everyone,
Rev 19:19-21 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together
to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. And the beast was taken,
and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived
them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.Rev.13:1-3 / Rev.13:11
These both were cast alive into a lake of fire(Rev.15:2) burning with brimstone. And the
remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword (Eph.6:17)
proceeded out of his mouth (2Thessalonians 2:8): and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.Revelation 12:3
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
where the beast(Rev.13:1-3) and the false prophet(Rev.13:11) are,
and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,07:29) Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).” Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand this dragon, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3…
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon(Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns
Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First loosing “THREE CROWNS” and the leopard spots:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.The quran prophecy
The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next loosing “THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and being exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
EDJ.Can you not see that you are mixing things up?
Rev.12:3.The red dragon has 7 crowns.
You got it all mixed up with the 10 HORNS and the 10CROWNS.THE RED DRAGON HAS 7 CROWNS= THE 7 WORLD EMPIRES HE IS RULING.1.EGYPT.2ASSYRIA.3.BABYLON.4.MEDO PERSIA.5 GRECIA.6 ROME. 7.END TIME ROME.
GETTING ALL MIXED UP HERE:THE 10 HORNS ARE ON THE ONE HEAD WITH 10 CROWNS.
YOU ARE TURNING IT IN TO A SALAD BOWL.STILL REFUSE TO SEE;There is none so blind than he that will not see.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:06) Ed J, 1. The lion with the wings in dan.7:4. is not babylon.(so this is one error).
This alone can cuase all the rest of the interpretations gone out of track.(have taken the wrong road).(wrong way/go back).wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Lion- Babylon
Bear- Medo-Persia
Leopard- GreeceRoman Empire: (Dan 7:7) “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast,
dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured
and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse
from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.”Rev.13:1-3
Spirit of Antichrist (Dan.7:8) “I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another
little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold,
in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:06) The 4th beast with the 10 horns on his head(is on the one head; not on many heads). another error. wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Scripture please? …looks like merely an assumption on your part!
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:06) EDJ. you said: the muslem world today is the 8th beast.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,This is correct.
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:45) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,07:29) Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
EDJ. Can you not see that you are mixing things up?Rev.12:3.The red dragon has 7 crowns.
You got it all mixed up with the 10 HORNS and the 10CROWNS.STILL REFUSE TO SEE;There is none so blind than he that will not see.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Perhaps you need a pair reading glasses?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,15:52) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:06) Ed J, 1. The lion with the wings in dan.7:4. is not babylon.(so this is one error).
This alone can cuase all the rest of the interpretations gone out of track.(have taken the wrong road).(wrong way/go back).wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Lion- Babylon
Bear- Medo-Persia
Leopard- GreeceRoman Empire: (Dan 7:7) “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast,
dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured
and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse
from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.”Rev.13:1-3
Spirit of Antichrist (Dan.7:8) “I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another
little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold,
in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDJ.As I have said; the lion IS NOT BABYLON.READ AGAIN.
Daniel 7:1. IN THE FIRST YEAR OF BELSHAZZAR,(NOT NEBUCHADNEZZAR; HE IS DEAD ALREADY).daniel was living in this existing kingdom, which soon is to be conquered by king Darius.
This dream is about the future kingdoms coming.
So we can not include babylon.
This makes the Lion; the king of the medes(darius).Another ERROR.and the rest also will be error,taken the wrong way.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,16:14) EDJ. As I have said; the lion IS NOT BABYLON.READ AGAIN.
Daniel 7:1. IN THE FIRST YEAR OF BELSHAZZAR,(NOT NEBUCHADNEZZAR; HE IS DEAD ALREADY).daniel was living in this existing kingdom, which soon is to be conquered by king Darius.
This dream is about the future kingdoms coming.
So we can not include babylon.
This makes the Lion; the king of the medes(darius).Another ERROR.and the rest also will be error,taken the wrong way.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,That is merely another assumption on your part. Like the one about ten horns on one head.
Dan 7:6 is clearly about the Grecian Empire; it was divided into four, by the four Generals.Dan 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of
it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,15:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:06) The 4th beast with the 10 horns on his head(is on the one head; not on many heads). another error. wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Scripture please? …looks like merely an assumption on your part!
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDj.Will scripture make any difference to you? You will just ignore it anyway.
Dan 7:7. —-AND IT HAD 10 HORNS.
VERSE 8.:24. —10 horns and he (little horn) shall SUBDUE 3 kings.
As he comes up he will subdue 3 kings.
all the 10horns on the dreadful beast.(one head)wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,16:34) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,15:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:06) The 4th beast with the 10 horns on his head(is on the one head; not on many heads). another error. wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Scripture please? …looks like merely an assumption on your part!
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDj.Will scripture make any difference to you? You will just ignore it anyway.
Dan 7:7. —-AND IT HAD 10 HORNS.
VERSE 8.:24. —10 horns and he (little horn) shall SUBDUE 3 kings.
As he comes up he will subdue 3 kings.
all the 10horns on the dreadful beast.(one head)wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Please explain what you believe it to mean? OK?
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,16:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,16:34) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,15:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:06) The 4th beast with the 10 horns on his head(is on the one head; not on many heads). another error. wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Scripture please? …looks like merely an assumption on your part!
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDj.Will scripture make any difference to you? You will just ignore it anyway.
Dan 7:7. —-AND IT HAD 10 HORNS.
VERSE 8.:24. —10 horns and he (little horn) shall SUBDUE 3 kings.
As he comes up he will subdue 3 kings.
all the 10horns on the dreadful beast.(one head)wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Please explain what you believe it to mean? OK?
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
EDJ.What is there to explain?
Its so simple.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,16:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 23 2012,15:45) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,07:29) Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
EDJ. Can you not see that you are mixing things up?Rev.12:3.The red dragon has 7 crowns.
You got it all mixed up with the 10 HORNS and the 10CROWNS.STILL REFUSE TO SEE;There is none so blind than he that will not see.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Perhaps you need a pair reading glasses?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
EDJ.No king has ever ruled satan;the red dragon; but he is ruling all of them.So the 10 horns on the red dragon are his 10 kings that will be ruling in the last day.(the dreadful beast in Dan.7:7.).
Rev 17:9.
7 mountains,and 7 kings,(not 10 kings)as shoebat said.
The 10 horns will be on the last dreadful beast=the8th beast,which is of the 7th.the 7th tranformed into an 8th beast.(the dreadful beast,Dan7:7).
wakeup.
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