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- January 4, 2008 at 8:23 pm#159766NickHassanParticipant
Hi tow,
Hang about and you may see the complete fulfillment of these things.
But without the light of the whole bible I wonder if you would.
You would just say another imposter doing parlour tricks.January 4, 2008 at 8:35 pm#159767NickHassanParticipantHi tow,
Repeat posts are spam and are deleted.January 4, 2008 at 9:16 pm#159768TowshabParticipantIf that is so, your post count should be around 300-400. Most of your posts are the same idea, different words.
I only repeat them because you constantly try oto bury the topic of the thread in your constant twists.
January 4, 2008 at 10:20 pm#159769NickHassanParticipantHi tow,
Pleased the wax in your ears is melting.January 4, 2008 at 10:51 pm#159770TowshabParticipantUh, Nick, I read with my eyes. My ears have nothing to do with it.
January 4, 2008 at 11:00 pm#159771NickHassanParticipantHi tow,
Interesting.
Men love believing what they see.
However Faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God..January 5, 2008 at 2:14 am#159772TowshabParticipantOdd, I've given you the word of G-d in all of these threads and you don't seem to have faith in what they say.
January 5, 2008 at 2:22 am#159773TowshabParticipantAnother sign of the messianic age, and what Gentiles (mostly Christians) can look forward too:
Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.
Jer 16:20 Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods?
Jer 16:21 Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know my hand and My might; and they shall know that My name is the LORDJanuary 5, 2008 at 2:25 am#159774TowshabParticipantThe Jewish Messiah:
Isa 2:4 He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.
The Christian god-man:
Mat 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
January 5, 2008 at 3:14 am#159775IM4TruthParticipantQuote (Towshab @ Jan. 05 2008,13:25) The Jewish Messiah: Isa 2:4 He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.
The Christian god-man:
Mat 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Tow You are so ignorant. Is.2:4 is for the time of the millenium and not for now. While
Math. 10:34 Is for right nowYou give scriptures and don't even know what it is about. That shows that you do not have God's Holy Spirit and you need to repent and belief. But i do not see that in your near future you are to selfish.
Peace and Love Mrs.January 5, 2008 at 3:59 am#159776NickHassanParticipantHi tow,
Ignorance is best kept to yourself.
God is awesome.January 5, 2008 at 4:19 am#159777TowshabParticipantQuote (IM4Truth @ Jan. 04 2008,21:14) Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 05 2008,13:25) The Jewish Messiah: Isa 2:4 He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.
The Christian god-man:
Mat 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Tow You are so ignorant.Careful, you might overwhelm me with that infamous Christian love.
Quote Is.2:4 is for the time of the millenium and not for now. While
Math. 10:34 Is for right nowNo, sorry. Christianity tries to say Jesus was King Messiah. Is 2:4 applies to the messianic age. Since this did not take place during Jesus' life and he said he came to bring a sword and not peace, he actually opposed the purpose of the Messiah: to usher in world peace.
Quote You give scriptures and don't even know what it is about. No, I know what they are about. You, on the other hand, read them with Christian glasses on. Christians take the Hebrew scriptures and twist them to mean what they want them to. You should be ashamed but you are not. You are proud and haughty.
Quote That shows that you do not have God's Holy Spirit and you need to repent and belief. But i do not see that in your near future you are to selfish.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Selfish? Christianity is selfish. Its all about what the Christian will get.January 5, 2008 at 4:20 am#159778TowshabParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 04 2008,21:59) Hi tow,
Ignorance is best kept to yourself.
Nick Hassan, master of “do as I say, not as I do”.January 7, 2008 at 9:05 pm#159779TowshabParticipantChristians try to say Isaiah 53 is about Jesus, yet neither Jesus nor his apostles tried to make the same claim. The same could be said of Isa 9:6.
Look over Isaiah 53. All of it speaks of a rejected and despised person. Yet the stripes of this person heals those who despise him. I must ask, how does this fit Christian theology? Because according to Christian doctrine, one must believe in Jesus to be “healed”. How can one believe in someone as lord and yet in turn despise that person?
So really, how does Isa 53 fit Jesus in light of Christian theology?
January 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm#159780NickHassanParticipantHi Tow,
So it is only so if the disciples quoted it?
This is not a churchianity dogma site.January 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm#159781TowshabParticipantNo, but you didn't answer the rest of the post I see.
January 8, 2008 at 12:52 am#159782NickHassanParticipantQuote (Towshab @ Jan. 08 2008,08:05) Christians try to say Isaiah 53 is about Jesus, yet neither Jesus nor his apostles tried to make the same claim. The same could be said of Isa 9:6. Look over Isaiah 53. All of it speaks of a rejected and despised person. Yet the stripes of this person heals those who despise him. I must ask, how does this fit Christian theology? Because according to Christian doctrine, one must believe in Jesus to be “healed”. How can one believe in someone as lord and yet in turn despise that person?
So really, how does Isa 53 fit Jesus in light of Christian theology?
Hi Tow,
My thoughts for what they are worth.
Christ was despised and whipped and killed because of the complaints by the Jews.
Because of that suffering and death, eternal healing is accessible to all through faith in him.
All can repent and be reborn of water and the Spirit have our relationship with God healed.
His brothers too can continue to work in his name bringing physical healing to those of faith.January 8, 2008 at 2:04 am#159783TowshabParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 07 2008,18:52) Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 08 2008,08:05) Christians try to say Isaiah 53 is about Jesus, yet neither Jesus nor his apostles tried to make the same claim. The same could be said of Isa 9:6. Look over Isaiah 53. All of it speaks of a rejected and despised person. Yet the stripes of this person heals those who despise him. I must ask, how does this fit Christian theology? Because according to Christian doctrine, one must believe in Jesus to be “healed”. How can one believe in someone as lord and yet in turn despise that person?
So really, how does Isa 53 fit Jesus in light of Christian theology?
Hi Tow,
My thoughts for what they are worth.
Christ was despised and whipped and killed because of the complaints by the Jews.Wrong, your god wanted him killed. The Jews were just pawns. Remember John 3:16?
Quote Because of that suffering and death, eternal healing is accessible to all through faith in him. Isa 53 says nothing of the healing coming through faith in him. It speaks of healing from his suffering. So in essence, according to Isa 53, its not necessary to believe in Jesus to receive the healing. Sorry if this does not agree with Christian theology, but Christians are the ones saying Isa 53 is about Jesus.
Quote All can repent and be reborn of water and the Spirit have our relationship with God healed. Sorry, but Isa 53 says nothing of having to be reborn. Unless Isa 53 is NOT about Jesus?
Quote His brothers too can continue to work in his name bringing physical healing to those of faith.
Huh?January 8, 2008 at 2:08 am#159784NickHassanParticipantHi Tow,
Nothing happens outside the will of God.
It was the will of God that he died but that absolves nobody who was involved.
You presumptuously read too much into Is 53 not knowing the wisdom of God.
Because of his suffering things like healing followed.January 8, 2008 at 2:13 am#159785TowshabParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 07 2008,20:08) Hi Tow,
Nothing happens outside the will of God.
It was the will of God that he died but that absolves nobody who was involved.Why not? That's a manipulative god you have there Nick. I guess Jews were the fall-guy?
Quote You presumptuously read too much into Is 53 not knowing the wisdom of God. Pot, meet kettle.
Quote Because of his suffering things like healing followed.
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