The Rapture

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  • #285104
    NickHassan
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 16 2012,06:00)

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    Hi M,
    The seven year tribulation is divided into two halves.

    There are 3 and a half years of WOES or sorrows [mt 24.8]that all who are in Christ who are alive endure with the unsaved. The good seed is with the tares but will be protected.

    Then Jesus Christ returns as King [Rev 10.7, 11.15, 12.10] not to earth yet but to the AIR [Rev 12.14]and the saved are taken to be with him while the WRATH of God [ is expressed on earth. We are not destined for wrath [1Thess 5.9].

    However some more lambs are found by their martyrdom during the WRATH.[Rev 7.14, Rev 12.17, Rev 20.4]

    Rev 19 gives us the next timeline as the wedding feast of the lamb[Song of Solomon]is followed by the return to earth of Jesus Christ and his wife[us] to rule on the renewed earth for 1000 years

    Brother Nick,

    Is Jesus Christ coming as the Prophet spoke of in Rev 10:7?

    I can see it is Him in Rev 10:1-3, but 10:7 ?

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Hi M,
    Rev 10.7 is a summary that defines the completion of the times of mystery and the full revelation of Jesus Christ as Lord and King.

    #285105
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2012,12:52)
    Hi M,
    Do we have to know HOW?


    N

    we have to know how to be saved don't we ??

    #285106
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

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    The seven year tribulation is divided into two halves.

    There are 3 and a half years of WOES or sorrows [mt 24.8]that all who are in Christ who are alive endure with the unsaved. The good seed is with the tares but will be protected.

    This may very well be true, I don't know for sure.

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    Then Jesus Christ returns as King [Rev 10.7, 11.15, 12.10] not to earth yet but to the AIR [Rev 12.14]and the saved are taken to be with him while the WRATH of God [ is expressed on earth. We are not destined for wrath [1Thess 5.9].

    I don't know about the timing, but I agree this will happen.

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    However some more lambs are found by their martyrdom during the WRATH.[Rev 7.14, Rev 12.17, Rev 20.4]

    Again this would depend on timing.  God only works with the Jews as a nation and the Christian as a single person.  He doesn't work with both at the same time.  So when He goes back to Israel then there will be no more bride taken and the rest raised not for 1000 years.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #285107
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi M,
    The prophets all pointed to this time but only the saved understood.
    The rest of humanity had their minds shrouded in confusion.
    Jesus is not coming as prophet-that time was earlier.

    #285108
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

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    All in Christ have died with him in baptism into his death[Rom6]

    Ro 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
    Ro 6:2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
    Ro 6:3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
    Ro 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
    Ro 6:5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.
    Ro 6:6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—
    Ro 6:7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
    Ro 6:8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.
    Ro 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
    Ro 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

    this is not what you said right ?? or is it ???

    #285109
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,06:09)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2012,12:52)
    Hi M,
    Do we have to know HOW?


    N

    we have to know how to be saved don't we ??


    Hi T,
    You are or are not saved now.
    The final clothing for eternity is not our problem.

    #285110
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,06:13)
    N

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    All in Christ have died with him in baptism into his death[Rom6]

    Ro 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
    Ro 6:2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
    Ro 6:3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
    Ro 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
    Ro 6:5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.
    Ro 6:6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—
    Ro 6:7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
    Ro 6:8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.
    Ro 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
    Ro 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

    this is not what you said right ?? or is it ???


    Hi T,
    Yes it is.

    #285111
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi T,

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    N

    we have to know how to be saved don't we ??

    Yes Sir,  but do we need to know how He saves?  or how He heals? or how He will change us?
    I don't think we could understand how He does any of the above.

    I can't even understand how a BLACK cow, eats GREEN grass, give WHITE milk that makes YELLOW cheese.  :)

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #285113
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

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    Hi M,
    The prophets all pointed to this time but only the saved understood.
    The rest of humanity had their minds shrouded in confusion.

    I agree Nick,

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    Jesus is not coming as prophet-that time was earlier.

    Yet Rev 10:7, Says that when the 7th angel (Prophet) begins to sound, the MYSTERY of God should be finished.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #285117
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi M,
    What version is that?
    The word PROPHET in brackets does not appear in the KJV I am using

    #285151
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

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    Hi M,
    What version is that?
    The word PROPHET in brackets does not appear in the KJV I am using

    KJV
    as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    The mystery, has to come the same way as He has always revealed truth.  Amos 3:7

    #285153
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 16 2012,13:15)
    Hi T,

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    N

    we have to know how to be saved don't we ??

    Yes Sir,  but do we need to know how He saves?  or how He heals? or how He will change us?
    I don't think we could understand how He does any of the above.

    I can't even understand how a BLACK cow, eats GREEN grass, give WHITE milk that makes YELLOW cheese.  :)

    God Bless
    Marlin


    M1

    their is an answer to all those questions but many of them are not related to what we should do or not to be saved

    the cows and chess was there wen Christ was on earth as well,in fact God created them ,this is not saving us from the wrath of God

    but learn to know truth that comes out of God holy spirit does

    #285154
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2012,13:14)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,06:09)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2012,12:52)
    Hi M,
    Do we have to know HOW?


    N

    we have to know how to be saved don't we ??


    Hi T,
    You are or are not saved now.
    The final clothing for eternity is not our problem.


    N

    I let you know wen I am resurrected you be the first to know if I find you there, :D

    #285156
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2012,13:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,06:13)
    N

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    All in Christ have died with him in baptism into his death[Rom6]

    Ro 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
    Ro 6:2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
    Ro 6:3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
    Ro 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
    Ro 6:5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.
    Ro 6:6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—
    Ro 6:7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
    Ro 6:8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.
    Ro 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
    Ro 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

    this is not what you said right ?? or is it ???


    Hi T,
    Yes it is.


    N

    well not quite ;you left out SIN. very important item

    and “sin” is the key to salvation because it is for our sin that Christ died so that we can live again in his sacrifice

    so you see you are short on words and so not saying the truth

    #285235
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,
    Then your argument is with the Spirit in Paul?

    #285236
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 16 2012,10:11)
    Hi Nick,

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    Hi M,
    What version is that?
    The word PROPHET in brackets does not appear in the KJV I am using

    KJV
    as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    The mystery, has to come the same way as He has always revealed truth.  Amos 3:7


    Hi M,
    Yes some will look and look and not see.

    #285238
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,00:12)
    Hi t,
    Then your argument is with the Spirit in Paul?


    N

    No it you that not present truth as per scriptures so you are considered not to be trusted in your scriptures quotation ,

    This is bad don t you think ?

    #285243
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    You lack of trust in me or others is not relevant.
    Dig deeper and lay you foundation on rock- the teachings of Yashua.
    Try Lk 8.18

    #285264
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,00:44)
    Hi T,
    You lack of trust in me or others is not relevant.
    Dig deeper and lay you foundation on rock- the teachings of Yashua.
    Try Lk 8.18


    N

    :D :D

    #285267
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 16 2012,04:41)
    Hi Ed J,

    You are right, the spirit of accusations that you have, I don't care to have.

    NO ANSWERS AT ALL.  

    God Bless
    Marlin


    NO ANSWERS AT ALL?

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