The paradise creator sons

[Spock]

What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God?

Colter

[Wakeup]

Boditharta.

Fasting is a very good thing to do.
It is denying oneself from what one enjoys doing.
Therefore makes ones prayer more genuine and stronger.
But it is of self will,not compulsory.

Fasting as a tradition is a different matter,because the will to do it, does not come from from the heart.
The *pressure* comes from tradition.*(just a routine)*.
All good things done *from the heart* is what God appreciates.

wakeup.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:58)

What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God? Colter

Why would someone be gluttonous afterward? My average daily caloric intake is around 1400 calories, but yes gluttony would make someone vulnerable to Satan an fasting strengthens someone from doing evil it is a fact

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:58)

What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God? Colter

By the way, what is the Satan God? There is no such thing that I know of is this more knowledge from the celestial beings of the Urantia Book?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:20)

Boditharta. Fasting is a very good thing to do. It is denying oneself from what one enjoys doing. Therefore makes ones prayer more genuine and stronger. But it is of self will,not compulsory. Fasting as a tradition is a different matter,because the will to do it, does not come from from the heart. The *pressure* comes from tradition.*(just a routine)*. All good things done *from the heart* is what God appreciates. wakeup.

Very good post But I must ask you do you not agree that to not sin is a commandment? so when we abstain from what is LAWFUL is strengthens us to not commit what is unlawful.

So it is important to ESTABLISH times and seasons for things so that we can always be prepared. So many times we get in situations in life and then try to muster up prayer out of emergency but it is much better to stay closet to God so that we are always ready.

You would never tell a farmer to plant your seeds whenever you feel like it, you would never tell a boxer he doesn't have to stay fit so why would you tell a Believer to forsake his main weapons which are fasting and prayer according to Jesus?

Jesus fasted 40 days when going up against the devil and defeated him. If the fasting wasn't needed I am 100% certain it would not have been anything worth noting

[Wakeup]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:45)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:20) Boditharta. Fasting is a very good thing to do. It is denying oneself from what one enjoys doing. Therefore makes ones prayer more genuine and stronger. But it is of self will,not compulsory. Fasting as a tradition is a different matter,because the will to do it, does not come from from the heart. The *pressure* comes from tradition.*(just a routine)*. All good things done *from the heart* is what God appreciates. wakeup. Very good post  But I must ask you do you not agree that to not sin is a commandment? so when we abstain from what is LAWFUL is strengthens us to not commit what is unlawful. So it is important to ESTABLISH times and seasons for things so that we can always be prepared. So many times we get in situations in life and then try to muster up prayer out of emergency but it is much better to stay closet to God so that we are always ready. You would never tell a farmer to plant your seeds whenever you feel like it, you would never tell a boxer he doesn't have to stay fit so why would you tell a Believer to forsake his main weapons which are fasting and prayer according to Jesus? Jesus fasted 40 days when going up against the devil and defeated him. If the fasting wasn't needed I am 100% certain it would not have been anything worth noting

Boditharta.

As I said; dont do what the scribes and pharisees do.
They fast for a show;for all to see.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:37)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:58) What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God? Colter By the way, what is the Satan God? There is no such thing that I know of is this more knowledge from the celestial beings of the Urantia Book?

Many Christians believe that Satan is “God of this world”, hence the Satan God. They have more faith in Satan’s imaginary influence in the world then they do in the real God.

Also people blame Satan for their own behavior instead of taking personal responsibility for their shortcomings and growing up.

Colter

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,21:18)

Boditharta. As I said; dont do what the scribes and pharisees do. They fast for a show;for all to see. wakeup.

I don't know if you ever Fast or not but you sould be able to say whether you believe in what the Bible supports or not. As far as fasting as a tradition is concerned what you said there doesn't make sense Jesus kept the Passover and you use that very same tradition to point to Jesus “as the Passover” if the tradition was never established you would not have that Idea. Likewise Fasting may very well establish something greater within such as the fact that had Adam and Eve abstained from what was unlawful for them to eat instead of abstaining from what was lawful to eat they would have defeated the devil. Jesus found it very powerful and did it to defeat the devil himself

Fasting as a tradition does not make it any less powerful or meaningful otherwise God would not have given many traditions as Jesus even gave his disciples. If you celebrate your birthday or someone elses birthday, anniversary or whatever you are keeping a tradition even if you watch a tv show all the time at the same time you keep a tradition ALLpeople keep some sort of tradition. You are confusing the traditions of men with the traditions of God. God has been teaching humans routines from the beginning

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,00:38)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:37) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:58) What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God? Colter By the way, what is the Satan God? There is no such thing that I know of is this more knowledge from the celestial beings of the Urantia Book? Many Christians believe that Satan is “God of this world”, hence the Satan God. They have more faith in Satan’s imaginary influence in the world then they do in the real God. Also people blame Satan for their own behavior instead of taking personal responsibility for their shortcomings and growing up. Colter

Oh,You are saying they believe in a Satan God existing, do you believe in such a thing I do know you believe in “gods” but in your doctrine is satan or Lucifer one of those “gods”?

[Spock]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,05:47)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,00:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:37) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:58) What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God? Colter By the way, what is the Satan God? There is no such thing that I know of is this more knowledge from the celestial beings of the Urantia Book? Many Christians believe that Satan is “God of this world”, hence the Satan God. They have more faith in Satan’s imaginary influence in the world then they do in the real God. Also people blame Satan for their own behavior instead of taking personal responsibility for their shortcomings and growing up. Colter Oh,You are saying they believe in a Satan God existing, do you believe in such a thing I do know you believe in “gods” but in your doctrine is satan or Lucifer one of those “gods”?

That’s a good question.

God delegates authority in his creator Son.

The Creator Son delegates administrative authority in his Sons such as Lucifer who had jurisdiction over a number of inhabited world(s)

Lucifer rebelled against the rule of the Son and lost faith in the unseen Father. He attempted an insurrection “their was war in heaven” against Michael and his angels.

Satan was an assistant to Lucifer, he was won over by the brilliance of Lucifer, all rebels who followed Lucifer simply could not conceive that he was wrong.

In the descending chain of command, our world had a resident Son who was “prince of this world”, his name was Caligastia. He joined the rebellion and subsequently fooled the whole world attempting to gain the allegiance of mortals against the rule of the Son and his ficticious Father. This was 150,000 years before Adam and Eve arrived.

If you go read Genesis you will see that “the beast” and the world was already fallen, he was already working against the will of the Father and the authority of the Son.

Satan could not have fooled the world if he did not have the power and position to do so.

In all 38 worlds joined the rebellion out of 10,000,000. These 38 worlds were quarantined, cut off from the planetary circuits. We are still isolated for an age.

Colter

[Spock]

I don't think I answered your question though. The answer is NO, Lucifer attempted to be “God of this world” be he couldn't. Even brilliant being fall in love with themselves and do stupid things.

Lucifer, Satan, nor the beasts were EVER God of this world although they did a lot of damage to Gods plan of slow evolution and spiritual revelation. Knowing of the legend of a “fall” the idea of original sin came from that age, man has used that to explain all forms of evil erroneously.

After Adam & Eve were tricked and defaulted, the Son decided this would be the world of his final incarnation. In between Melchizedek was sent as an emergency Son, he made the agreement with Abram.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,05:44)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,21:18) Boditharta. As I said; dont do what the scribes and pharisees do. They fast for a show;for all to see. wakeup. I don't know if you ever Fast or not but you sould be able to say whether you believe in what the Bible supports or not. As far as fasting as a tradition is concerned what you said there doesn't make sense Jesus kept the Passover and you use that very same tradition to point to Jesus “as the Passover” if the tradition was never established you would not have that Idea. Likewise Fasting may very well establish something greater within such as the fact that had Adam and Eve abstained from what was unlawful for them to eat instead of abstaining from what was lawful to eat they would have defeated the devil. Jesus found it very powerful and did it to defeat the devil himself Fasting as a tradition does not make it any less powerful or meaningful otherwise God would not have given many traditions as Jesus even gave his disciples. If you celebrate your birthday or someone elses birthday, anniversary or whatever you are keeping a tradition even if you watch a tv show all the time at the same time you keep a tradition ALLpeople keep some sort of tradition. You are confusing the traditions of men with the traditions of God. God has been teaching humans routines from the beginning

Boditharta.

There never was a law saying that we must fast at a certain time every year. This is a man made law.
Fast when you want to fast,pray when you want to pray.
Dont pray because you are told to pray.
Dont fast when you are told to fast.

Worship God from your heart,not because of tradition.
Go in your room;close the door and pray.

John4:21. woman,believe me,the hour cometh,when ye shall neither *in this mountain*,nor yet at *jerusalem*,worship the Father.

23. But the hour cometh,and now is,WHEN THE *TRUE WORSHIPPERS*,shall worship the Father in spirit and in *TRUTH*;FOR THE FATHER **SEEK SUCH** TO WORSHIP HIM.

There is no need to travel to meccah to pray;this is all mans tradition. Man creating their own way to God;which
is a dead end.

wakeup.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 15 2013,07:33)

Boditharta. There never was a law saying that we must fast at a certain time every year. This is a man made law. Fast when you want to fast,pray when you want to pray. Dont pray because you are told to pray. Dont fast when you are told to fast. Worship God from your heart,not because of tradition. Go in your room;close the door and pray. John4:21. woman,believe me,the hour cometh,when ye shall neither *in this mountain*,nor yet at *jerusalem*,worship the Father. 23.  But the hour cometh,and now is,WHEN THE *TRUE WORSHIPPERS*,shall worship the Father in spirit and in *TRUTH*;FOR THE FATHER **SEEK SUCH** TO WORSHIP HIM. There is no need to travel to meccah to pray;this is all mans tradition. Man creating their own way to God;which is a dead end. wakeup.

Psalm 107:32
Let them exalt him also in the congregation of the people, and praise him in the assembly of the elders.

Hebrews 10:24-25

King James Version (KJV)

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

To fast and pray is Worshiping in Spirit and Truth.

And Hebrews 25 is answers your Mecca comment

[Wakeup]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,12:41)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 15 2013,07:33) Boditharta. There never was a law saying that we must fast at a certain time every year. This is a man made law. Fast when you want to fast,pray when you want to pray. Dont pray because you are told to pray. Dont fast when you are told to fast. Worship God from your heart,not because of tradition. Go in your room;close the door and pray. John4:21. woman,believe me,the hour cometh,when ye shall neither *in this mountain*,nor yet at *jerusalem*,worship the Father. 23.  But the hour cometh,and now is,WHEN THE *TRUE WORSHIPPERS*,shall worship the Father in spirit and in *TRUTH*;FOR THE FATHER **SEEK SUCH** TO WORSHIP HIM. There is no need to travel to meccah to pray;this is all mans tradition. Man creating their own way to God;which is a dead end. wakeup. Psalm 107:32 Let them exalt him also in the congregation of the people, and praise him in the assembly of the elders. Hebrews 10:24-25 King James Version (KJV) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. To fast and pray is Worshiping in Spirit and Truth. And Hebrews 25 is answers your Mecca comment

Boditharta.

I meet and teach a few at home.
And they go out and teach others that are willing to hear.

We must be fruitful,and bear fruit.
A tree that bear no fruit will be uprooted.

Unfortunately most are not interested in spiritual things,
They are of *babylon*,and love the pleasures of the world.
It is the material world they love. There is no room for the spiritual.

The spiritually inclined are captured by those churches that teach only blessings,rapture,and heaven;and no evil can come to them,if they go to church.

How many churches have been destroyed in earth quakes,and how many are closed shut,because the the light has gone out;spiritually dead.

You also must come out of babylon;for you are a spiritual person. The whore represents the spirit of the world,
the whole system is based on material greed,and selfishness;and false religions *introduced by satan*.
She is satans woman.
Forget religion;its the cause of wars.

Babylon and all of her will be destroyed. She only has a very short time before she is no more.
For all the cities of the nations will be in heaps in one day,at the coming.

wakeup.

[Spock]

3. Original, Actual, and Potential

(1261.5) 115:3.1 The absolute cosmos is conceptually without limit; to define the extent and nature of this primal reality is to place qualifications upon infinity and to attenuate the pure concept of eternity. The idea of the infinite-eternal, the eternal-infinite, is unqualified in extent and absolute in fact. There is no language in the past, present, or future of Urantia adequate to express the reality of infinity or the infinity of reality. Man, a finite creature in an infinite cosmos, must content himself with distorted reflections and attenuated conceptions of that limitless, boundless, never-beginning, never-ending existence the comprehension of which is really beyond his ability.

(1261.6) 115:3.2 Mind can never hope to grasp the concept of an Absolute without attempting first to break the unity of such a reality. Mind is unifying of all divergencies, but in the very absence of such divergencies, mind finds no basis upon which to attempt to formulate understanding concepts.

(1261.7) 115:3.3 The primordial stasis of infinity requires segmentation prior to human attempts at comprehension. There is a unity in infinity which has been expressed in these papers as the I AM — the premier postulate of the creature mind. But never can a creature understand how it is that this unity becomes duality, triunity, and diversity while yet remaining an unqualified unity. Man encounters a similar problem when he pauses to contemplate the undivided Deity of Trinity alongside the plural personalization of God.

(1262.1) 115:3.4 It is only man’s distance from infinity that causes this concept to be expressed as one word. While infinity is on the one hand UNITY, on the other it is DIVERSITY without end or limit. Infinity, as it is observed by finite intelligences, is the maximum paradox of creature philosophy and finite metaphysics. Though man’s spiritual nature reaches up in the worship experience to the Father who is infinite, man’s intellectual comprehension capacity is exhausted by the maximum conception of the Supreme Being. Beyond the Supreme, concepts are increasingly names; less and less are they true designations of reality; more and more do they become the creature’s projection of finite understanding toward the superfinite.

(1262.2) 115:3.5 One basic conception of the absolute level involves a postulate of three phases:

(1262.3) 115:3.6 1. The Original. The unqualified concept of the First Source and Center, that source manifestation of the I AM from which all reality takes origin.

(1262.4) 115:3.7 2. The Actual. The union of the three Absolutes of actuality, the Second, Third, and Paradise Sources and Centers. This triodity of the Eternal Son, the Infinite Spirit, and the Paradise Isle constitutes the actual revelation of the originality of the First Source and Center.

(1262.5) 115:3.8 3. The Potential. The union of the three Absolutes of potentiality, the Deity, Unqualified, and Universal Absolutes. This triodity of existential potentiality constitutes the potential revelation of the originality of the First Source and Center.

(1262.6) 115:3.9 The interassociation of the Original, the Actual, and the Potential yields the tensions within infinity which result in the possibility for all universe growth; and growth is the nature of the Sevenfold, the Supreme, and the Ultimate.

(1262.7) 115:3.10 In the association of the Deity, Universal, and Unqualified Absolutes, potentiality is absolute while actuality is emergent; in the association of the Second, Third, and Paradise Sources and Centers, actuality is absolute while potentiality is emergent; in the originality of the First Source and Center, we cannot say that either actuality or potentiality is either existent or emergent — the Father is.

(1262.8) 115:3.11 From the time viewpoint, the Actual is that which was and is; the Potential is that which is becoming and will be; the Original is that which is. From the eternity viewpoint, the differences between the Original, the Actual, and the Potential are not thus apparent. These triune qualities are not so distinguished on Paradise-eternity levels. In eternity all is — only has all not yet been revealed in time and space.

(1262.9) 115:3.12 From a creature’s viewpoint, actuality is substance, potentiality is capacity. Actuality exists centermost and expands therefrom into peripheral infinity; potentiality comes inward from the infinity periphery and converges at the center of all things. Originality is that which first causes and then balances the dual motions of the cycle of reality metamorphosis from potentials to actuals and the potentializing of existing actuals.

(1262.10) 115:3.13 The three Absolutes of potentiality are operative on the purely eternal level of the cosmos, hence never function as such on subabsolute levels. On the descending levels of reality the triodity of potentiality is manifest with the Ultimate and upon the Supreme. The potential may fail to time-actualize with respect to a part on some subabsolute level, but never in the aggregate. The will of God does ultimately prevail, not always concerning the individual but invariably concerning the total.

(1263.1) 115:3.14 It is in the triodity of actuality that the existents of the cosmos have their center; be it spirit, mind, or energy, all center in this association of the Son, the Spirit, and Paradise. The personality of the spirit Son is the master pattern for all personality throughout all universes. The substance of the Paradise Isle is the master pattern of which Havona is a perfect, and the superuniverses are a perfecting, revelation. The Conjoint Actor is at one and the same time the mind activation of cosmic energy, the conceptualization of spirit purpose, and the integration of the mathematical causes and effects of the material levels with the volitional purposes and motives of the spiritual level. In and to a finite universe the Son, Spirit, and Paradise function in and upon the Ultimate as he is conditioned and qualified in the Supreme.

(1263.2) 115:3.15 Actuality (of Deity) is what man seeks in the Paradise ascent. Potentiality (of human divinity) is what man evolves in that search. The Original is what makes possible the coexistence and integration of man the actual, man the potential, and man the eternal.

(1263.3) 115:3.16 The final dynamics of the cosmos have to do with the continual transfer of reality from potentiality to actuality. In theory, there may be an end to this metamorphosis, but in fact, such is impossible since the Potential and the Actual are both encircuited in the Original (the I AM), and this identification makes it forever impossible to place a limit on the developmental progression of the universe. Whatsoever is identified with the I AM can never find an end to progression since the actuality of the potentials of the I AM is absolute, and the potentiality of the actuals of the I AM is also absolute. Always will actuals be opening up new avenues of the realization of hitherto impossible potentials — every human decision not only actualizes a new reality in human experience but also opens up a new capacity for human growth. The man lives in every child, and the morontia progressor is resident in the mature God-knowing man.

(1263.4) 115:3.17 Statics in growth can never appear in the total cosmos since the basis for growth — the absolute actuals — is unqualified, and since the possibilities for growth — the absolute potentials — are unlimited. From a practical viewpoint the philosophers of the universe have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as an end.

(1263.5) 115:3.18 From a circumscribed view there are, indeed, many ends, many terminations of activities, but from a larger viewpoint on a higher universe level, there are no endings, merely transitions from one phase of development to another. The major chronicity of the master universe is concerned with the several uni
verse ages, the Havona, the superuniverse, and the outer universe ages. But even these basic divisions of sequence relationships cannot be more than relative landmarks on the unending highway of eternity.

(1263.6) 115:3.19 The final penetration of the truth, beauty, and goodness of the Supreme Being could only open up to the progressing creature those absonite qualities of ultimate divinity which lie beyond the concept levels of truth, beauty, and goodness.

[david]

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Over 700,000 Creator Sons like Jesus. Each with roughly 10,000,000 created, inhabited worlds under their authority and co-creatorship.

How do we know this? Is it in a book? Who wrote the book? What is that persons name?

[Spock]

Quote (david @ Aug. 27 2013,08:53)

Quote Over 700,000 Creator Sons like Jesus. Each with roughly 10,000,000 created, inhabited worlds under their authority and co-creatorship. How do we know this?  Is it in a book?  Who wrote the book?  What is that persons name?

David, there has been 5 epochal revelations and many small ones. This states where each came from.

(1007.5) 92:4.5 1. The Dalamatian teachings. The true concept of the First Source and Center was first promulgated on Urantia by the one hundred corporeal members of Prince Caligastia’s staff. This expanding revelation of Deity went on for more than three hundred thousand years until it was suddenly terminated by the planetary secession and the disruption of the teaching regime. Except for the work of Van, the influence of the Dalamatian revelation was practically lost to the whole world. Even the Nodites had forgotten this truth by the time of Adam’s arrival. Of all who received the teachings of the one hundred, the red men held them longest, but the idea of the Great Spirit was but a hazy concept in Amerindian religion when contact with Christianity greatly clarified and strengthened it.

(1007.6) 92:4.6 2. The Edenic teachings. Adam and Eve again portrayed the concept of the Father of all to the evolutionary peoples. The disruption of the first Eden halted the course of the Adamic revelation before it had ever fully started. But the aborted teachings of Adam were carried on by the Sethite priests, and some of these truths have never been entirely lost to the world. The entire trend of Levantine religious evolution was modified by the teachings of the Sethites. But by 2500 B.C. mankind had largely lost sight of the revelation sponsored in the days of Eden.

(1007.7) 92:4.7 3. Melchizedek of Salem. This emergency Son of Nebadon inaugurated the third revelation of truth on Urantia. The cardinal precepts of his teachings were trust and faith. He taught trust in the omnipotent beneficence of God and proclaimed that faith was the act by which men earned God’s favor. His teachings gradually commingled with the beliefs and practices of various evolutionary religions and finally developed into those theologic systems present on Urantia at the opening of the first millennium after Christ.

(1008.1) 92:4.8 4. Jesus of Nazareth. Christ Michael presented for the fourth time to Urantia the concept of God as the Universal Father, and this teaching has generally persisted ever since. The essence of his teaching was love and service, the loving worship which a creature son voluntarily gives in recognition of, and response to, the loving ministry of God his Father; the freewill service which such creature sons bestow upon their brethren in the joyous realization that in this service they are likewise serving God the Father.

(1008.2) 92:4.9 5. The Urantia Papers. The papers, of which this is one, constitute the most recent presentation of truth to the mortals of Urantia. These papers differ from all previous revelations, for they are not the work of a single universe personality but a composite presentation by many beings. But no revelation short of the attainment of the Universal Father can ever be complete. All other celestial ministrations are no more than partial, transient, and practically adapted to local conditions in time and space. While such admissions as this may possibly detract from the immediate force and authority of all revelations, the time has arrived on Urantia when it is advisable to make such frank statements, even at the risk of weakening the future influence and authority of this, the most recent of the revelations of truth to the mortal races of Urantia. UB 1955

Colter

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 11 2013,09:17)

I don't fast or pray as a rule, everyday is holy to me. Colter

This is what I reported you saying and I was certainly right so why call me a liar?

Maybe you should reconsider and pray like your religion teaches you.

[Spock]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 05 2013,02:39)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 11 2013,09:17) I don't fast or pray as a rule, everyday is holy to me. Colter This is what I reported you saying and I was certainly right so why call me a liar? Maybe you should reconsider and pray like your religion teaches you.

As a rule, a rule! I pray sincerely, I don't say things to God that I don't really mean, when I pray I don't pray a pre written prayer while my mind is somewhere else.

Colter

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Colter @ Sep. 05 2013,03:37)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 05 2013,02:39) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 11 2013,09:17) I don't fast or pray as a rule, everyday is holy to me. Colter This is what I reported you saying and I was certainly right so why call me a liar? Maybe you should reconsider and pray like your religion teaches you. As a rule, a rule! I pray sincerely, I don't say things to God that I don't really mean, when I pray I don't pray a pre written prayer while my mind is somewhere else. Colter

You can slither any way you like but you were not supportive of prayer. Even if you say I don't pray as a rule that means you don't feel a definite need for prayer.

Otherwise what is your interpretation of “as a rule” exactly mean?

I pray as a rule, I worship as a rule and I submit to God as a rule.

either way I have shown you what you said and you were not man enough to apologize for calling me a liar. So we should be clear that saying “I don't fast or Pray as a rule” implied you do not pray and the solid proof of that is you declared that you DO NOT FAST is that correct sir?

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