The only god who is

[NickHassan]

Hi LU,
Where does scripture directly call the SON OF GOD… GOD?
He never made any such statement.
The Lord is the Spirit

[Lightenup]

Nick,
Hebrews 1

[JustAskin]

LU,

Hmmm… Jesus, a God who ' can do nothing apart from His Father.
A God that is obedient to Man.
A God that can die
A hybrid?

Did you know that Steven was not a Man. He was actually an Angel. Don't believe? What does the Scriptures say: Acts 6:15: “And those who sat in the council, looking steadfastly at [Steven], saw his face as the face of an angel”

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it.

lu
Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood,

i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God
he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother.

[JustAskin]

LU,

He was Not Just a man, True – He was a Sinless Man.

[Lightenup]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31)

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother.

terraricca,
Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be.

Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God.

[Lightenup]

Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 29 2010,18:36)

LU, He was Not Just a man, True – He was a Sinless Man.

He was not just a sinless man either. He was fully god and fully sinless man. Are you going to ignore that He was the root of David too? Or are you going to ignore that His origins were from ancient times?

[JustAskin]

LU,

Your last quotes are getting desperate.

You have mixed two different references pertaining to two different times.

Are you running out of materual and having to mix and hash?

I'm leaving this thread for now as it is starting to become a nonesense and the desperation to defend your illfated theory is inly making you delve more into sinning.

So Goodnight to you (all).

[Lightenup]

Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 29 2010,18:45)

LU, Your last quotes are getting desperate. You have mixed two different references pertaining to two different times. Are you running out of materual and having to mix and hash? I'm leaving this thread for now as it is starting to become a nonesense and the desperation to defend your illfated theory is inly making you delve more into sinning. So Goodnight to you (all).

Good night JA,
That is true…the ancient origins pertain to before creation and the root of David title does not negate that truth but instead magnifies it. Nevertheless, both are speaking of the Son of God, a deity. Only a deity can have the original nature of a deity and have been in existence before Abraham's birth yet still be alive to be Jesus.

You are denying any of this? Sounds like you are stumped. Sleep on it

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:38)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother. terraricca, Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be. Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God.

LU

Christ was not God it seems you only like to twist things around ,trying to confuse ,but no thanks

you going were you become a servant but not of God;

you can not make Christ to be God,it is against scriptures,

it does not matter how good you can do the twist.

[Lightenup]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:07)

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:38) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother. terraricca, Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be. Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God. LU Christ was not God it seems you only like to twist things around ,trying to confuse ,but no thanks you going were you become a servant but not of God; you can not make Christ to be  God,it is against scriptures, it does not matter how good you can do the twist.

Or…it is against you false beliefs and you can't get past them. What type of church do you attend?

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:16)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:07) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:38) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother. terraricca, Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be. Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God. LU Christ was not God it seems you only like to twist things around ,trying to confuse ,but no thanks you going were you become a servant but not of God; you can not make Christ to be  God,it is against scriptures, it does not matter how good you can do the twist. Or…it is against you false beliefs and you can't get past them.  What type of church do you attend?

LU

i am sure i do not want to attend yours

[Lightenup]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:28)

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:07) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:38) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother. terraricca, Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be. Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God. LU Christ was not God it seems you only like to twist things around ,trying to confuse ,but no thanks you going were you become a servant but not of God; you can not make Christ to be  God,it is against scriptures, it does not matter how good you can do the twist. Or…it is against you false beliefs and you can't get past them.  What type of church do you attend? LU i am sure i do not want to attend yours

terraricca,
So you don't go?

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:31)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:28) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:07) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:38) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother. terraricca, Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be. Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God. LU Christ was not God it seems you only like to twist things around ,trying to confuse ,but no thanks you going were you become a servant but not of God; you can not make Christ to be  God,it is against scriptures, it does not matter how good you can do the twist. Or…it is against you false beliefs and you can't get past them.  What type of church do you attend? LU i am sure i do not want to attend yours terraricca, So you don't go?

LU

i have been in a half douzen of them ,in my live ,but to many want to re invent the scriptures or rerwite them as they see fit.

but to do that, they have to ignore many other truths and make a bouchery out of the word of God.

just think about it, if you going to spraid one lie,what will stop you of spraiding a hundred of them.nothing.

it is walking in the truth and apply the true way that will save you ,and you can not be true if you fallow lies,don't you???

[Lightenup]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,20:06)

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:31) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:28) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:07) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:38) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother. terraricca, Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be. Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God. LU Christ was not God it seems you only like to twist things around ,trying to confuse ,but no thanks you going were you become a servant but not of God; you can not make Christ to be  God,it is against scriptures, it does not matter how good you can do the twist. Or…it is against you false beliefs and you can't get past them.  What type of church do you attend? LU i am sure i do not want to attend yours terraricca, So you don't go? LU i have been in a half douzen of them ,in my live ,but to many want to re invent the scriptures or rerwite them as they see fit. but to do that, they have to ignore many other truths and make a bouchery out of the word of God. just think about it, if you going to spraid one lie,what will stop you of spraiding a hundred of them.nothing. it is walking in the truth and apply the true way that will save you ,and you can not be true if you fallow lies,don't you???

Well terraricca,
There is no perfect church out there but there are several that claim that the Bible is inerrant and put their faith in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Finding the closest fit is better than being alone, imo.

[NickHassan]

Hi LU,
You are not alone if you worship in spirit and truth.
God will never leave you or forsake you.[heb 13.6]

Jn 9.35

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,12:17)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,20:06) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:31) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:28) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,11:16) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,19:07) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:38) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:31) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2010,18:10) Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,10:03) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2010,18:01) Hi LU, Where does it say only gods can die for men? Nick, It tells us that man cannot die for all of mankind.  God shows us who can. John 3:16 LU this is not God; Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life terraricca, Well, the Son that was sent was both god and man.  Take it to the one that sent Him if you have a problem with it. lu Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, i believe in the preexistance of Christ,but he was or is not God he has a divine nature yes, is that make him God no,but he could act as a god to us just as Moses act as god to Aaron his brother. terraricca, Yes, His divine nature does indeed mean that He was deity as the literal Son of deity would naturally be. Moses did not have the divine nature, that is why he was just “acting” as God. LU Christ was not God it seems you only like to twist things around ,trying to confuse ,but no thanks you going were you become a servant but not of God; you can not make Christ to be  God,it is against scriptures, it does not matter how good you can do the twist. Or…it is against you false beliefs and you can't get past them.  What type of church do you attend? LU i am sure i do not want to attend yours terraricca, So you don't go? LU i have been in a half douzen of them ,in my live ,but to many want to re invent the scriptures or rerwite them as they see fit. but to do that, they have to ignore many other truths and make a bouchery out of the word of God. just think about it, if you going to spraid one lie,what will stop you of spraiding a hundred of them.nothing. it is walking in the truth and apply the true way that will save you ,and you can not be true if you fallow lies,don't you??? Well terraricca, There is no perfect church out there but there are several that claim that the Bible is inerrant and put their faith in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  Finding the closest fit is better than being alone, imo.

LU

i have thought about that too,but the bible teaches me not to sit with the wicket.

you know there is only two kind of people ,the ones who seek God and the ones who do not,

but if you seek him it as to be on his terms,not yours.

patience ,and fallow Christ foot step.

[terraricca]

LU

trust God you will never be decieve. this is the truth.

[Lightenup]

Terraricca,
Ignorance does not make one wicked, does it? Churches may be ignorant, or confused or have immature Christians but as long as they are for Christ and not against Him, then there's hope. Many decent churches have love even if the doctrine is off some. They feed the hungry and clothe the naked, give help to the orphans and widows etc.

This is a good passage to think about.

Mark 9:38-41
38 John said to Him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us.”
39 But Jesus said, “Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me.
40 “For he who is not against us is for us.
41 “For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because of your name as followers of Christ, truly I say to you, he will not lose his reward.
NASU

Yes…trust God

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2010,13:00)

Terraricca, Ignorance does not make one wicked, does it?   Churches may be ignorant, or confused or have immature Christians but as long as they are for Christ and not against Him, then there's hope.  Many decent churches have love even if the doctrine is off some.  They feed the hungry and clothe the naked, give help to the orphans and widows etc.   This is a good passage to think about. Mark 9:38-41 38 John said to Him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us.” 39 But Jesus said, “Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me. 40 “For he who is not against us is for us. 41 “For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because of your name as followers of Christ, truly I say to you, he will not lose his reward. NASU Yes…trust God

LU

ignorance does not make one wicket,i never said that ,of cause not.

i said;(the ones who seek God and the ones who do not)

if someone seek God he may not have much knowledge,but good heart toward the will of God ,thats good in is favor.

even if in is ignorance he accomplish godly works this is in is favor.

but does not means that i have to share and fight with members of the church about there false doctrines .

we will all stand alone in front of the judge at the end.

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