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Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 08 2009,19:52) Definitions of respect: * esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); “it is held in esteem”; “a man who has earned high regard”
* an attitude of admiration or esteem; “she lost all respect for him”
* deference: a courteous expression (by word or deed) of esteem or regard; “his deference to her wishes was very flattering”; “be sure to give my respects to the dean”
* obedience: behavior intended to please your parents; “their children were never very strong on obedience”; “he went to law school out of respect for his father's wishes”
* regard highly; think much of; “I respect his judgement”; “We prize his creativity”
* regard: a feeling of friendship and esteem; “she mistook his manly regard for love”; “he inspires respect”
* show respect towards; “honor your parents!”
* Respect is esteem for, or a sense of the worth or excellence of, a person, a personal quality, ability, or a manifestation of a personal qualityDefinitions of contempt:
* lack of respect accompanied by a feeling of intense dislike; “he was held in contempt”; “the despite in which outsiders were held is legendary”
* a manner that is generally disrespectful and contemptuous
* open disrespect for a person or thing
* a willful disobedience to or disrespect for the authority of a court or legislative body
* Contempt is an intense feeling or attitude of regarding someone or something as inferior, base, or worthless—it is similar to scornReprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.
Better [is] a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.
He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth [very] friends.
I guess I call you NICK from now on.
You know, Satan was good in quoting scriptures too.Georg
Quote (banana @ Dec. 08 2009,07:07) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 08 2009,19:45) Quote (banana @ Dec. 08 2009,00:19) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2009,12:07) hi all
did Paul not explain abode a sabah day to come ,and that some are not to be in the sabah to come,did not christ said to the city of capernahaum it will be easyer for sodom at the day of jugement than you,and yet they have seen Jesus ,and they will be there resurected to stand jugement before God,It is understand that the sabah day will be 1000 years because one day is a 1000 years for god,and this is Gods day.
if we look in revelation and read that all the others will be resurected after the 1000 years are past,and this is called the second resurection,and that now the devil is released to test them,because the one from the first resurection will not be influenced by the return of satan .
terrariccaGod is not bound by time as we are, to God a 1000 years maybe as one day, to us it is still a 1000 years.
What do you think Jesus meant, when he said, it will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah? what will be easier? Did he not mean understanding the truth? and why do you think that would be? is it not because the Jews were so attached to their law of Moses that in fact they called Jesus a blasphemer? Sodom and Gomorrah wont first have to unlearn all the laws the Jews used to live by. And when do you think they will be taught by Jesus, after the millennium?Georg
Georg
Sodom and Gomorrah practiced and lived in sexual perversions, debauchery, homosexuality, bestialities, etc.Sodom and Gomorrah IGNORED the laws of 'elohim.
And what do you think it means by, it will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah in that day?
It is because, believe it or not the world today threw away 'elohims law, and live by their own standard, Sodom and Gomorrah will have it easier at the judgment because today's society refuse 'elohims law and have created multiple gods by creating Yeshua HaMoshiach into a golden calf.
RonYou have not explained what is meant by, “will have it easier”.
Georg
More tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah, etc.The cities of the Jordan valley destroyed for their sins in the time of Abraham (Ge 19:1-28).
These cities did not have the opportunity, and hence, not the responsibility, of those to which the Messiah or his apostles preached.
Those Cities of the Plain, which were given to the flames for their loathsome impurities, shall be treated as less criminal, we are here taught, than those places which, though morally respectable, reject the Gospel message and affront those that bear it.
Does not mean they get off lucky, their fate is sealed. Look at it as poetic language, like (“your'e in trouble” likened to “your'e really in trouble” or “your'e digging yourself in deeper”.
Judgment is the same, the stress point is they ignored the law wherin today there are those who refuse the gospel, the gospel of grace is easier to obtain than the days of old, therfore there is no excuse for refusing salvation.
pretty simple.Quote (banana @ Dec. 08 2009,07:08) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 08 2009,19:52) Definitions of respect: * esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); “it is held in esteem”; “a man who has earned high regard”
* an attitude of admiration or esteem; “she lost all respect for him”
* deference: a courteous expression (by word or deed) of esteem or regard; “his deference to her wishes was very flattering”; “be sure to give my respects to the dean”
* obedience: behavior intended to please your parents; “their children were never very strong on obedience”; “he went to law school out of respect for his father's wishes”
* regard highly; think much of; “I respect his judgement”; “We prize his creativity”
* regard: a feeling of friendship and esteem; “she mistook his manly regard for love”; “he inspires respect”
* show respect towards; “honor your parents!”
* Respect is esteem for, or a sense of the worth or excellence of, a person, a personal quality, ability, or a manifestation of a personal qualityDefinitions of contempt:
* lack of respect accompanied by a feeling of intense dislike; “he was held in contempt”; “the despite in which outsiders were held is legendary”
* a manner that is generally disrespectful and contemptuous
* open disrespect for a person or thing
* a willful disobedience to or disrespect for the authority of a court or legislative body
* Contempt is an intense feeling or attitude of regarding someone or something as inferior, base, or worthless—it is similar to scornReprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.
Better [is] a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.
He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth [very] friends.
I guess I call you NICK from now on.
You know, Satan was good in quoting scriptures too.Georg
Seems your answer to everything and everyone you disagree with, tis a shame.Hi,
Relevant sin is defined as rejection of Jesus and his testimony in Jn3,16.
Those of Sodom and Gomorrah never saw or heard him.hi georg
do read the bible ?
if you believe i said some who is contrairy to scriptures why you dont quote the scripture that i miss interprete so i will keep my silence.
what i talk abode i very elementary you should know it.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 09 2009,02:47) You have not explained what is meant by, “will have it easier”. Georg[/quote]
More tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah, etc.The cities of the Jordan valley destroyed for their sins in the time of Abraham (Ge 19:1-28).
These cities did not have the opportunity, and hence, not the responsibility, of those to which the Messiah or his apostles preached.
Those Cities of the Plain, which were given to the flames for their loathsome impurities, shall be treated as less criminal, we are here taught, than those places which, though morally respectable, reject the Gospel message and affront those that bear it.
Does not mean they get off lucky, their fate is sealed. Look at it as poetic language, like (“your'e in trouble” likened to “your'e really in trouble” or “your'e digging yourself in deeper”.
Judgment is the same, the stress point is they ignored the law wherin today there are those who refuse the gospel, the gospel of grace is easier to obtain than the days of old, therfore there is no excuse for refusing salvation.
pretty simple.
Const.Let me show you why I disagree with your assessment.
First of all, God is no respecter of person, you know that.
To God, sin is sin, it receives the same penalty, death.Hbr 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
If you think that those who saw or heard Jesus had an advantage, than why did Jesus speak in Parables?
Mat 13:10 ¶ And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
So, is Jesus playing favorites?
Satan is still very much in charge of the people, why would the bible say he deceived the whole world?Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The time Jesus spend on earth was not the time to save the world, neither is it the time now, not as long as Satan runs loose. If Jesus was trying to save the world now, he is not very successful, wouldn't you agree?
Luk 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Luk 8:12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
“Lest they should believe and be saved”, you have to admit, that is an odd statement from the one who came to SAVE the world.
Georg
hi georg
Mt 20:15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
Lk 10:12 I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.
Lk 10:13 “Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Lk 10:14 But it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you.
Lk 10:15 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depthsthose scriptures talk for themselfs.
terraricca
So does this scripture.
Hbr 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Georg
hi georg
Jnh 4:10 But the LORD said, “You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight.
Jnh 4:11 But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?”I have wander sometimes if God would save everyone of his creation through Christ only the rebel one at the end of the millenium,
and that all the beast and false prophet and satan, simbolic figures are destoyed in the lake of fire what is permenent destruction.
because with everyone now be a christian to the true Lord there would be no posible false prophet,sinse we would have accept to be govern by the king of king from heaven ,there would be no beast or posible existanse ofm one,because we would have accepted the true God to worship there would not be room for an opposition there is no one to seduce ,so no more adversary,only the sons of God, in heaven and on earth,
what you thing?terraricca
hi georg
Mt 20:15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
Lk 10:12 I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.
Lk 10:13 “Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Lk 10:14 But it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you.
Lk 10:15 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depthsthose scriptures talk for themselfs.
That is “in conection to what”.
Georg
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2009,13:45) hi georg
Jnh 4:10 But the LORD said, “You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight.
Jnh 4:11 But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?”I have wander sometimes if God would save everyone of his creation through Christ only the rebel one at the end of the millenium,
and that all the beast and false prophet and satan, simbolic figures are destoyed in the lake of fire what is permenent destruction.
because with everyone now be a christian to the true Lord there would be no posible false prophet,sinse we would have accept to be govern by the king of king from heaven ,there would be no beast or posible existanse ofm one,because we would have accepted the true God to worship there would not be room for an opposition there is no one to seduce ,so no more adversary,only the sons of God, in heaven and on earth,
what you thing?
terrariccaGod did send his son into the world, so that through him the world (people) would be saved. Yes he wants every body to be saved, but not every body wants to be saved, the bible shows that.
Beasts are symbolic for kingdoms, false prophets and Satan are real. Whether the lake of fire is symbolic or real, I don't know, what I do know is, if you end up in it, you're gone for good.
Only after Satan himself is destroyed, will all opposition be put down, and Jesus will turn the kingdom over to the Father, and God will then dwell with men.Georg
Quote (banana @ Dec. 09 2009,01:56) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2009,13:45) hi georg
Jnh 4:10 But the LORD said, “You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight.
Jnh 4:11 But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?”I have wander sometimes if God would save everyone of his creation through Christ only the rebel one at the end of the millenium,
and that all the beast and false prophet and satan, simbolic figures are destoyed in the lake of fire what is permenent destruction.
because with everyone now be a christian to the true Lord there would be no posible false prophet,sinse we would have accept to be govern by the king of king from heaven ,there would be no beast or posible existanse ofm one,because we would have accepted the true God to worship there would not be room for an opposition there is no one to seduce ,so no more adversary,only the sons of God, in heaven and on earth,
what you thing?
terrariccaGod did send his son into the world, so that through him the world (people) would be saved. Yes he wants every body to be saved, but not every body wants to be saved, the bible shows that.
Beasts are symbolic for kingdoms, false prophets and Satan are real. Whether the lake of fire is symbolic or real, I don't know, what I do know is, if you end up in it, you're gone for good.
Only after Satan himself is destroyed, will all opposition be put down, and Jesus will turn the kingdom over to the Father, and God will then dwell with men.Georg
Symbols:Beast/Animal – King/Kingdom/Power (Da 7:17,23, Rev 17:10,11)
hi all
you did not answer but just repeat what i have said,
if you just answering by !bla,bla,bla!! this does not acomplish nothing for the glory of our master Christ.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 09 2009,22:20) Quote (banana @ Dec. 09 2009,01:56) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2009,13:45) hi georg
Jnh 4:10 But the LORD said, “You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight.
Jnh 4:11 But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?”I have wander sometimes if God would save everyone of his creation through Christ only the rebel one at the end of the millenium,
and that all the beast and false prophet and satan, simbolic figures are destoyed in the lake of fire what is permenent destruction.
because with everyone now be a christian to the true Lord there would be no posible false prophet,sinse we would have accept to be govern by the king of king from heaven ,there would be no beast or posible existanse ofm one,because we would have accepted the true God to worship there would not be room for an opposition there is no one to seduce ,so no more adversary,only the sons of God, in heaven and on earth,
what you thing?
terrariccaGod did send his son into the world, so that through him the world (people) would be saved. Yes he wants every body to be saved, but not every body wants to be saved, the bible shows that.
Beasts are symbolic for kingdoms, false prophets and Satan are real. Whether the lake of fire is symbolic or real, I don't know, what I do know is, if you end up in it, you're gone for good.
Only after Satan himself is destroyed, will all opposition be put down, and Jesus will turn the kingdom over to the Father, and God will then dwell with men.Georg
Symbols:Beast/Animal – King/Kingdom/Power (Da 7:17,23, Rev 17:10,11)
RonDan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
This verse is referring back to the four beasts in verses 4-6.
They are the same kingdom described in the statue of Dan. 2.
They are kingdoms, because you can't have a king without a kingdom.
The sea, Dan 7:3, is symbolic; it means, the “sea” of nation from which one grew stronger than the rest, and conquered the others. Think about why they were given the description of beasts, did they not behave like the animals they were compared with?
Earth is symbolic; it means, from all the people. Does not a kingdom consist of people?Georg
hi georg
i believe you never follow the discussion you just answer the quote ,so unless we present all the facts of your miss guide elaborated imagination to make all your fanthom fantasm to believed in the next quote you will ignore all.Terraricca
I ask you once before, make yourself clear in what you're asking, I don't like to guess.
I welcome a challenge, but I have to know what I'm challenged on.
In the meantime, why not read what I said to Ron.Georg
hi georg
i will not go to you for advise ,it seems you have very religion views on the bible and there intepretationterraricca
Just look at all the time you're wasting arguing with me, if instead you had read my replies, you would have learned something.
Georg
Quote (banana @ Dec. 09 2009,09:05) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 09 2009,22:20) Quote (banana @ Dec. 09 2009,01:56) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2009,13:45) hi georg
Jnh 4:10 But the LORD said, “You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight.
Jnh 4:11 But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?”I have wander sometimes if God would save everyone of his creation through Christ only the rebel one at the end of the millenium,
and that all the beast and false prophet and satan, simbolic figures are destoyed in the lake of fire what is permenent destruction.
because with everyone now be a christian to the true Lord there would be no posible false prophet,sinse we would have accept to be govern by the king of king from heaven ,there would be no beast or posible existanse ofm one,because we would have accepted the true God to worship there would not be room for an opposition there is no one to seduce ,so no more adversary,only the sons of God, in heaven and on earth,
what you thing?
terrariccaGod did send his son into the world, so that through him the world (people) would be saved. Yes he wants every body to be saved, but not every body wants to be saved, the bible shows that.
Beasts are symbolic for kingdoms, false prophets and Satan are real. Whether the lake of fire is symbolic or real, I don't know, what I do know is, if you end up in it, you're gone for good.
Only after Satan himself is destroyed, will all opposition be put down, and Jesus will turn the kingdom over to the Father, and God will then dwell with men.Georg
Symbols:Beast/Animal – King/Kingdom/Power (Da 7:17,23, Rev 17:10,11)
RonDan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
This verse is referring back to the four beasts in verses 4-6.
They are the same kingdom described in the statue of Dan. 2.
They are kingdoms, because you can't have a king without a kingdom.
The sea, Dan 7:3, is symbolic; it means, the “sea” of nation from which one grew stronger than the rest, and conquered the others. Think about why they were given the description of beasts, did they not behave like the animals they were compared with?
Earth is symbolic; it means, from all the people. Does not a kingdom consist of people?Georg
Earth – Sparsely populated area (opposite of water/sea, see below) (compare Rev 13:1,11)Waters (Sea) – Peoples/Multitudes/Nations/Languages (Isa 17:12, Rev 17:15)
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