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Nick
I have contempt for you, yes, not because of superior knowledge either.
No matter what I say, you say I am wrong, and not once have you had the decency or courtesy to show where.
Logic places a great deal in understanding truth, because logic is what I gave you when I ask you, what do you do with the dead in their graves, after Satan has been destroyed?
That question is still open.Georg
hmmmm.
Contempt is not a good thing for anyone to hold let alone boast of.
Satan is to be put into the pit for 1000 years.[Rev20]
Where does it say he has been destroyed?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,08:16) hmmmm.
Contempt is not a good thing for anyone to hold let alone boast of.
Where does it say he has been destroyed?
Did I say He has been destroyed, or did I say, “after” he has been destroyed, but, there you go again, twisting what I said. You don't expect to find his name in the book of life, do you?
Nick, if my wife was not on the same email, I would tell you what I think of you, for now, you're despicable.Georg
Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,21:02) Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,13:06) Nick How is death destroyed?
Georg
NickThat was the question I ask you, and I know the reason you did not answer; not because you did not know the answer, but, because of the scriptures I am about to give you.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
So how do you destroy death?
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
That is the answer, you destroy the devil, you destroy death and the grave/hell.
But now you and all who think that the resurrection of the dead, second resurrection, is after the millennium, have a dilemma. If Satan is the last to be destroyed, how do you do away with all the unrepentant sinners that are being resurrected? Death has already been destroyed, so how do you put all these to death? no more death?
?Georg
Nick, here it is again.Georg
Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,08:42) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 08 2009,00:34) Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,02:02) Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,13:06) Nick How is death destroyed?
Georg
NickThat was the question I ask you, and I know the reason you did not answer; not because you did not know the answer, but, because of the scriptures I am about to give you.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
So how do you destroy death?
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
That is the answer, you destroy the devil, you destroy death and the grave/hell.
But now you and all who think that the resurrection of the dead, second resurrection, is after the millennium, have a dilemma. If Satan is the last to be destroyed, how do you do away with all the unrepentant sinners that are being resurrected? Death has already been destroyed, so how do you put all these to death? no more death??Georg
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;Does it say the “Devil is death”? Or just that he had the “power” of death?
Do you have the “power of death”? If you do are “you death”?
Satan will be destroyed! The Wicked will be destroyed! Death will be destroyed! The Grave will be destroyed!
RonAlright, then you tell me; how do you destroy death and the grave/hell in the lake of fire?
I just read what you said again as I answered Nick, you make absolutely no sense.
Do I have the power of death? what kind of question is that?
What happens when you remove the one who “has” the power, don't you then also remove the power? if not, who than has the power?
Make sure you stick with the scriptures I gave you.Georg
Yahwehs righteous fire will destroy all that is wicked and sinful, and bestows immortality and incorruptability to the righteous, you can't see how death and the grave are swallowed up in that?You grant immoratality and you destroy death, you destroy death there is no grave.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,13:16) hmmmm.
Contempt is not a good thing for anyone to hold let alone boast of.
Satan is to be put into the pit for 1000 years.[Rev20]
Where does it say he has been destroyed?
Ezekiel 28:18-19 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.Psalm 76:12 He shall cut off the spirit of princes: [he is] terrible to the kings of the earth.
Isaiah 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, [and as] the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Revelation 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
Do not look to human teachings. (Ps 118:8, Mt 15:3,8,9, Ac 5:29, 1Co 3:19, Col 2:8, 2Th 2:8-12, 2Pe 3:15-17)
Note on 2Pe 3:15-17: Wrest – “To twist or extort by violence; to pull or force from by violent wringing or twisting” (Webster's Dictionary 1828)
Do not look to the majority view. (Mt 7:13,14, 2Ti 4:3,4)
Do not look to family teachings. (Mt 10:34-37)
Do not look to your own understanding. (Pr 3:5, Pr 14:12)
hi all
did Paul not explain abode a sabah day to come ,and that some are not to be in the sabah to come,did not christ said to the city of capernahaum it will be easyer for sodom at the day of jugement than you,and yet they have seen Jesus ,and they will be there resurected to stand jugement before God,It is understand that the sabah day will be 1000 years because one day is a 1000 years for god,and this is Gods day.
if we look in revelation and read that all the others will be resurected after the 1000 years are past,and this is called the second resurection,and that now the devil is released to test them,because the one from the first resurection will not be influenced by the return of satan .Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 08 2009,12:02) Do not look to human teachings. (Ps 118:8, Mt 15:3,8,9, Ac 5:29, 1Co 3:19, Col 2:8, 2Th 2:8-12, 2Pe 3:15-17) Note on 2Pe 3:15-17: Wrest – “To twist or extort by violence; to pull or force from by violent wringing or twisting” (Webster's Dictionary 1828)
Do not look to the majority view. (Mt 7:13,14, 2Ti 4:3,4)
Do not look to family teachings. (Mt 10:34-37)
Do not look to your own understanding. (Pr 3:5, Pr 14:12)
RonWhat do you call what you're doing here?
Georg
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2009,12:07) hi all
did Paul not explain abode a sabah day to come ,and that some are not to be in the sabah to come,did not christ said to the city of capernahaum it will be easyer for sodom at the day of jugement than you,and yet they have seen Jesus ,and they will be there resurected to stand jugement before God,It is understand that the sabah day will be 1000 years because one day is a 1000 years for god,and this is Gods day.
if we look in revelation and read that all the others will be resurected after the 1000 years are past,and this is called the second resurection,and that now the devil is released to test them,because the one from the first resurection will not be influenced by the return of satan .
terrariccaGod is not bound by time as we are, to God a 1000 years maybe as one day, to us it is still a 1000 years.
What do you think Jesus meant, when he said, it will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah? what will be easier? Did he not mean understanding the truth? and why do you think that would be? is it not because the Jews were so attached to their law of Moses that in fact they called Jesus a blasphemer? Sodom and Gomorrah wont first have to unlearn all the laws the Jews used to live by. And when do you think they will be taught by Jesus, after the millennium?Georg
Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,19:10) Hi Georg,
He deserves your respect not your contempt.
Do not despise others
NickExplain to me, what is respect? in your opinion.
Do you think you show respect when you practically call me a liar and refuse to answer my questions.
No, I have contempt for every one that does that.
If you tell me I am wrong, I deserve to know where and what you think I am wrong in.
I think to you its all a game, just keep stirring the pot, I happen to believe this is quite serious, and I take what I say very serious, because I happen to believe also, there are people that come to this forum hoping to learn something, but instead what they find is nothing more than a religious gossip column.Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,00:10) Hi Georg,
He deserves your respect not your contempt.
Do not despise others
Ty, NickQuote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,15:16) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,08:16) hmmmm.
Contempt is not a good thing for anyone to hold let alone boast of.
Where does it say he has been destroyed?
Did I say He has been destroyed, or did I say, “after” he has been destroyed, but, there you go again, twisting what I said. You don't expect to find his name in the book of life, do you?
Nick, if my wife was not on the same email, I would tell you what I think of you, for now, you're despicable.Georg
Sounds like a Catholic Church attitude, I hope and pray it's not.
Quote (banana @ Dec. 08 2009,00:19) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2009,12:07) hi all
did Paul not explain abode a sabah day to come ,and that some are not to be in the sabah to come,did not christ said to the city of capernahaum it will be easyer for sodom at the day of jugement than you,and yet they have seen Jesus ,and they will be there resurected to stand jugement before God,It is understand that the sabah day will be 1000 years because one day is a 1000 years for god,and this is Gods day.
if we look in revelation and read that all the others will be resurected after the 1000 years are past,and this is called the second resurection,and that now the devil is released to test them,because the one from the first resurection will not be influenced by the return of satan .
terrariccaGod is not bound by time as we are, to God a 1000 years maybe as one day, to us it is still a 1000 years.
What do you think Jesus meant, when he said, it will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah? what will be easier? Did he not mean understanding the truth? and why do you think that would be? is it not because the Jews were so attached to their law of Moses that in fact they called Jesus a blasphemer? Sodom and Gomorrah wont first have to unlearn all the laws the Jews used to live by. And when do you think they will be taught by Jesus, after the millennium?Georg
Georg
Sodom and Gomorrah practiced and lived in sexual perversions, debauchery, homosexuality, bestialities, etc.Sodom and Gomorrah IGNORED the laws of 'elohim.
And what do you think it means by, it will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah in that day?
It is because, believe it or not the world today threw away 'elohims law, and live by their own standard, Sodom and Gomorrah will have it easier at the judgment because today's society refuse 'elohims law and have created multiple gods by creating Yeshua HaMoshiach into a golden calf.
Definitions of respect:
* esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); “it is held in esteem”; “a man who has earned high regard”
* an attitude of admiration or esteem; “she lost all respect for him”
* deference: a courteous expression (by word or deed) of esteem or regard; “his deference to her wishes was very flattering”; “be sure to give my respects to the dean”
* obedience: behavior intended to please your parents; “their children were never very strong on obedience”; “he went to law school out of respect for his father's wishes”
* regard highly; think much of; “I respect his judgement”; “We prize his creativity”
* regard: a feeling of friendship and esteem; “she mistook his manly regard for love”; “he inspires respect”
* show respect towards; “honor your parents!”
* Respect is esteem for, or a sense of the worth or excellence of, a person, a personal quality, ability, or a manifestation of a personal qualityDefinitions of contempt:
* lack of respect accompanied by a feeling of intense dislike; “he was held in contempt”; “the despite in which outsiders were held is legendary”
* a manner that is generally disrespectful and contemptuous
* open disrespect for a person or thing
* a willful disobedience to or disrespect for the authority of a court or legislative body
* Contempt is an intense feeling or attitude of regarding someone or something as inferior, base, or worthless—it is similar to scornReprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.
Better [is] a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.
He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth [very] friends.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 08 2009,19:45) Quote (banana @ Dec. 08 2009,00:19) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2009,12:07) hi all
did Paul not explain abode a sabah day to come ,and that some are not to be in the sabah to come,did not christ said to the city of capernahaum it will be easyer for sodom at the day of jugement than you,and yet they have seen Jesus ,and they will be there resurected to stand jugement before God,It is understand that the sabah day will be 1000 years because one day is a 1000 years for god,and this is Gods day.
if we look in revelation and read that all the others will be resurected after the 1000 years are past,and this is called the second resurection,and that now the devil is released to test them,because the one from the first resurection will not be influenced by the return of satan .
terrariccaGod is not bound by time as we are, to God a 1000 years maybe as one day, to us it is still a 1000 years.
What do you think Jesus meant, when he said, it will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah? what will be easier? Did he not mean understanding the truth? and why do you think that would be? is it not because the Jews were so attached to their law of Moses that in fact they called Jesus a blasphemer? Sodom and Gomorrah wont first have to unlearn all the laws the Jews used to live by. And when do you think they will be taught by Jesus, after the millennium?Georg
Georg
Sodom and Gomorrah practiced and lived in sexual perversions, debauchery, homosexuality, bestialities, etc.Sodom and Gomorrah IGNORED the laws of 'elohim.
And what do you think it means by, it will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah in that day?
It is because, believe it or not the world today threw away 'elohims law, and live by their own standard, Sodom and Gomorrah will have it easier at the judgment because today's society refuse 'elohims law and have created multiple gods by creating Yeshua HaMoshiach into a golden calf.
RonYou have not explained what is meant by, “will have it easier”.
Georg
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