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Hi Georg,
Are we allowed to imagine why God has a millenial day of rest and teach our speculations?
He overcomes all His enemies through His sons.
Death is the last.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,11:52) Hi Georg,
Are we allowed to imagine why God has a millenial day of rest and teach our speculations?
He overcomes all His enemies through His sons.
Death is the last.
Isn't that what I said?Georg
Hi Georg,
No you imagine other things happening like premature resurrections of the unsaved so they get another shot.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,12:09) Hi Georg,
No you imagine other things happening like premature resurrections of the unsaved so they get another shot.
NickWhy do you keep saying, second chance, another shot? if you had lived during the Babylonian time, would you say, you were getting a “second” chance, or “another” shot?
There is nothing premature to be resurrected in the millennium.
Why do you think Paul said, all in their own order? How would you even imagine if all the dead were to be resurrected all at once?
I know, never mind me asking questions, its a habit of mine, I know you don't answer, makes me wonder why? I guess you're to busy stirring the pot.Georg
Hi Georg,
The first resurrection of the sons of the resurrection is followed 1000 years later by the second before the judgement of the nations-described in Mt 25 and Rev20Quote (banana @ Dec. 06 2009,17:45) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,12:09) Hi Georg,
No you imagine other things happening like premature resurrections of the unsaved so they get another shot.
NickWhy do you keep saying, second chance, another shot? if you had lived during the Babylonian time, would you say, you were getting a “second” chance, or “another” shot?
There is nothing premature to be resurrected in the millennium.
Why do you think Paul said, all in their own order? How would you even imagine if all the dead were to be resurrected all at once?
I know, never mind me asking questions, its a habit of mine, I know you don't answer, makes me wonder why? I guess you're to busy stirring the pot.Georg
But there is an order to this resurrection: Yeshua HaMoshiach was raised first; then when Yeshua HaMoshiach comes back, all his people will be raised.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 06 2009,18:45) Quote (banana @ Dec. 06 2009,17:45) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,12:09) Hi Georg,
No you imagine other things happening like premature resurrections of the unsaved so they get another shot.
NickWhy do you keep saying, second chance, another shot? if you had lived during the Babylonian time, would you say, you were getting a “second” chance, or “another” shot?
There is nothing premature to be resurrected in the millennium.
Why do you think Paul said, all in their own order? How would you even imagine if all the dead were to be resurrected all at once?
I know, never mind me asking questions, its a habit of mine, I know you don't answer, makes me wonder why? I guess you're to busy stirring the pot.Georg
But there is an order to this resurrection: Yeshua HaMoshiach was raised first; then when Yeshua HaMoshiach comes back, all his people will be raised.
Do you enjoy being condencending to those you disagree with?
the second chance or second death is after the 1000 year reign without satan. second death pertains to those who had died and resurrected. there will be some who make it to that point without having died though.
during the 1000 years we are given a system of things without the influence of satan only god. we will see how it is to be under god's kingdom.
when satan is released for a short time after that , he and all those tht choose to not do god's will will be cast into death forever and will no longer be on earth htey will be destroyed.
after that go'd skingdom will be established and for time indefinite and his plan for us nad earth will be. it has been thet same from the start it has not changed from when adam was first here.
just think a world free from hate and death and sickness. living forever on earth under god's rule, the only way to ever have true peace and security. animals and man in harmony, peace and love throughout. i wish we were all there now
so much calamity today. its very sad. i look forward to god fixing things. i don't fear it i long for it. armagedon is not to be scared of its to be embrassed for it shows good things will be comming.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 07 2009,13:47) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 06 2009,18:45) Quote (banana @ Dec. 06 2009,17:45) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,12:09) Hi Georg,
No you imagine other things happening like premature resurrections of the unsaved so they get another shot.
NickWhy do you keep saying, second chance, another shot? if you had lived during the Babylonian time, would you say, you were getting a “second” chance, or “another” shot?
There is nothing premature to be resurrected in the millennium.
Why do you think Paul said, all in their own order? How would you even imagine if all the dead were to be resurrected all at once?
I know, never mind me asking questions, its a habit of mine, I know you don't answer, makes me wonder why? I guess you're to busy stirring the pot.Georg
But there is an order to this resurrection: Yeshua HaMoshiach was raised first; then when Yeshua HaMoshiach comes back, all his people will be raised.
Do you enjoy being condencending to those you disagree with?
No, I feel annoyed at their accusations without prove, and failure to respond when ask a question.Georg
Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,14:30) the second chance or second death is after the 1000 year reign without satan. second death pertains to those who had died and resurrected. there will be some who make it to that point without having died though. during the 1000 years we are given a system of things without the influence of satan only god. we will see how it is to be under god's kingdom.
when satan is released for a short time after that , he and all those tht choose to not do god's will will be cast into death forever and will no longer be on earth htey will be destroyed.
after that go'd skingdom will be established and for time indefinite and his plan for us nad earth will be. it has been thet same from the start it has not changed from when adam was first here.
just think a world free from hate and death and sickness. living forever on earth under god's rule, the only way to ever have true peace and security. animals and man in harmony, peace and love throughout. i wish we were all there now
so much calamity today. its very sad. i look forward to god fixing things. i don't fear it i long for it. armagedon is not to be scared of its to be embrassed for it shows good things will be comming.
peace2allI assume you read the post between me and Nick, you did not answer any of those questions either, and I don't know if you really want me to repeat them to you.
Georg
Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,13:06) Nick How is death destroyed?
Georg
NickThat was the question I ask you, and I know the reason you did not answer; not because you did not know the answer, but, because of the scriptures I am about to give you.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
So how do you destroy death?
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
That is the answer, you destroy the devil, you destroy death and the grave/hell.
But now you and all who think that the resurrection of the dead, second resurrection, is after the millennium, have a dilemma. If Satan is the last to be destroyed, how do you do away with all the unrepentant sinners that are being resurrected? Death has already been destroyed, so how do you put all these to death? no more death?
?Georg
Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,02:02) Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,13:06) Nick How is death destroyed?
Georg
NickThat was the question I ask you, and I know the reason you did not answer; not because you did not know the answer, but, because of the scriptures I am about to give you.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
So how do you destroy death?
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
That is the answer, you destroy the devil, you destroy death and the grave/hell.
But now you and all who think that the resurrection of the dead, second resurrection, is after the millennium, have a dilemma. If Satan is the last to be destroyed, how do you do away with all the unrepentant sinners that are being resurrected? Death has already been destroyed, so how do you put all these to death? no more death??Georg
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;Does it say the “Devil is death”? Or just that he had the “power” of death?
Do you have the “power of death”? If you do are “you death”?
Satan will be destroyed! The Wicked will be destroyed! Death will be destroyed! The Grave will be destroyed!
Such as sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, [being] bound in affliction and iron; 107:10
He brought them out of darkness and the shadow of death, and brake their bands in sunder. Psalms 107:14
The fear of the LORD [is] a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death. Proverbs 14:27
And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord 'elohim will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken. And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this our 'elohim; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation. For in this mountain shall the hand of the LORD rest, and Moab shall be trodden down under him, even as straw is trodden down for the dunghill. And he shall spread forth his hands in the midst of them, as he that swimmeth spreadeth forth to swim: and he shall bring down their pride together with the spoils of their hands. And the fortress of the high fort of thy walls shall he bring down, lay low, bring to the ground, to the dust. Isaiah 25:7-12
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 08 2009,00:34) Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,02:02) Quote (banana @ Dec. 07 2009,13:06) Nick How is death destroyed?
Georg
NickThat was the question I ask you, and I know the reason you did not answer; not because you did not know the answer, but, because of the scriptures I am about to give you.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
So how do you destroy death?
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
That is the answer, you destroy the devil, you destroy death and the grave/hell.
But now you and all who think that the resurrection of the dead, second resurrection, is after the millennium, have a dilemma. If Satan is the last to be destroyed, how do you do away with all the unrepentant sinners that are being resurrected? Death has already been destroyed, so how do you put all these to death? no more death??Georg
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;Does it say the “Devil is death”? Or just that he had the “power” of death?
Do you have the “power of death”? If you do are “you death”?
Satan will be destroyed! The Wicked will be destroyed! Death will be destroyed! The Grave will be destroyed!
RonAlright, then you tell me; how do you destroy death and the grave/hell in the lake of fire?
I just read what you said again as I answered Nick, you make absolutely no sense.
Do I have the power of death? what kind of question is that?
What happens when you remove the one who “has” the power, don't you then also remove the power? if not, who than has the power?
Make sure you stick with the scriptures I gave you.Georg
Hi Georg,
You ask HOW about many things as if to justify the thought that logic is greater than what is written.
If you cannot understand HOW it is no reason to write your own script.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,04:51) Hi Georg,
You ask HOW about many things as if to justify the thought that logic is greater than what is written.
If you cannot understand HOW it is no reason to write your own script.
NickIf I can not understand HOW, WHO answered the question for you? If you would only get away from the stove long enough to let your glasses defog, maybe than you would see.
Show me just one post or reply, where I WROTE MY OWN SCRIPT.
You're like a guerrilla fighter, you hit and run, and you THINK you're a Christian? Christians don't do to other Christians what you're doing.
Is your image that important to you that you can not admit anything.
I ask you, how do you destroy death? I had to answer it for you, you did not even comment on that, instead you claim the scriptures are my own script.
Is it logic to say, when Satan is destroyed so is death and the grave, or isn't that what is written?
You just hate to say I'm right, don't you?Georg
Hi Georg,
Understanding HOW may never be in our complete grasp but what is written is truth.
Speculations do not add to divine wisdom.[lk11]
Logic is man's wisdom.
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