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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,10:36) Hi WU,
Lack of understanding often causes folks to cast others aside
The lack may be in you.
Nick.You said maybe,cause you can not say for sure.
There is no scripture that can scould me for wrong interpretations.Dont feel stepped on your toes.
I am not stepping on anyones toes.
If they feel that way;that is their problem.
I am just bold; I am an alarm clock,a loud one.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,13:51) Hi WU,
Reset it and listen to God in scripture
Wakeup
He's telling you to throw away all you know.
He's telling you you are an idiot and don't know what you are talking about.
He's telling you, you don't have the word of truth in you.
He's telling you that your scriptures you've used to prove him wrong are worthless.
He's pushing you into a corner.These are the christians we are dealing with in the last days.
Full of bitterness, strife and envy in their hearts.
Making themselves judge and jury,
condemning anything or anyone that holds truth.
No wonder there are only 144,000 who follow the lamb in these days days,
a very small number.
All, I bet have been pushed into a corner,
all are hated, because babylon hate Christ,
and they hate all who belong to him.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,13:51) Hi WU,
Reset it and listen to God in scripture
Nick.Reset it to your kind of doctrine?
Your holy doctrin Holy as full of holes.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,18:27) Hi WU,
Scripture is full of holes??
Nick.You have punched holes into the scriptures.
wakeup.
Hi WU,
No. But if you post what is not scripturally based I will remind you.
Folk do not seem to like that.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,07:51) Hi WU,
No. But if you post what is not scripturally based I will remind you.
Folk do not seem to like that.
Nick.That is how it should be.
But use scriptures.wakeup.
Hi j42,
The 144000 are the remnant people from Israel.Rev 7
And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, 7 from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed.
By rev 14 they belong to the Son
Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps. 3 And they *[a]sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth. 4 These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,13:46) Hi j42,
The 144000 are the remnant people from Israel.Rev 7
And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, 7 from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed.
By rev 14 they belong to the Son
Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps. 3 And they *[a]sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth. 4 These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.
Nick.The scriptures also tell us that the jews will be last and the gentiles first.
Those sealed are spiritual jews.
Here is a clue.John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for **that meat which endureth unto everlasting life**, which the Son of man shall give unto you:
***for him hath God the Father sealed***.That meat which endureth unto everlasting life is the spirit that is in the word of the scriptures.
Here is that food:
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.John 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
John 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
John 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
John 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
John 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,13:46) Hi j42,
The 144000 are the remnant people from Israel.Rev 7
And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, 7 from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed.
By rev 14 they belong to the Son
Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps. 3 And they *[a]sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth. 4 These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.
NickYou need to provide proof in the scriptures that the 144,000 are the remnant?
Those scriptures you gave do not claim what you say. It is only your opinion they are the remnant.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,14:38)
NickWell speculation is not good enough,
because it's not backed by scripture,
so I cannot accept your opinion.
You are trying to use logic to form an answer.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,16:19) Hi J42,
Yep.
But I do not teach it
Hi NickQuote Hi j42,
The 144000 are the remnant people from Israel.That sounds like a firm statement.
Be confident with everything you state when it comes to the Word of God.
If you are not sure then say so.journey42,April wrote:[/quote]
NickWe are accountable for every Word we say on here. It's in print, and can't be taken back.
If we make a bold statement then we better make sure it's true.
If it is not true, then we have gone against the spirit of truth.
Anything against the truth is a lie.
A lie is not a penny invested,
but a penny lost.Our Lord checks on us all the time. When two or more are gathered in the Lords name, he is there in our midst.
If we are genuine, and have made an error, he corrects us because he loves us.
If we do not receive correction, because of pride,
then he will take that penny of us and give it to the one that has the most.Do you understand what this means?
It means the truth he first gave us does not grow,
but can be taken away.
and given to another one that holds truth, increasing his measure.
And the first man gets sent into delusion, becoming more and more away from the truth,
he is no good to anyone then, not even himself.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2014,04:46) Hi J42,
Are you yet ready to teach?
Nick.You also can teach if you have knowledge.
Can not hide your penny in the sand.wakeup.
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