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Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2013,17:38) Quote (Colter @ April 06 2013,12:12) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,14:58) Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,11:59) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,10:55) Quote (Colter @ April 03 2013,22:18) Quote (david @ April 03 2013,17:09) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,23:09) Quote (david @ April 02 2013,15:35) Quote (Colter @ April 02 2013,09:19) “the kingdom of heaven is within you” Colter No it isn't. Well maybe not in you, but the kingdom is in the believer. Colter We're the Pharisees believers? No,  the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, not material governments or nations. The Pharisee's were not in the spiritual kingdom proclaimed by Jesus. This spiritual kingdom, established by Jesus, is comprised of those who by faith, believe in the Fatherhood of God and consequent brotherhood of all mankind. The king is not a material king, it's the rule of God in the hearts of decided believers. So when Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is within you” he was directing the believer into a personal relationship with the eternal God who is available to all who by faith truly desire to be lead by God. Eventually this spiritual kingdom, the rule of God in the hearts of man, will transform all of mankind, even the world. Colter Hi Colter Excellent response! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Thank you Ed Colter. How would you explain rev21? New/Holy jerusalem coming down from heaven, and isiah 11:6–10.  65:17–25? rev.21:16.17? Will you say its just jewish fable? Can you just pick and choose the scriptures that suit your doctrine? I don't know what Rev 21 means, not sure what the symbolism is, but I know that my heavenly Father would never dip his children in a lake of fire, that's really mean to accuse God of such sadistic behavior. Colter. Colter. What about the gnashing of teeth? Is it Gods plan to preserve the evil and wicked forever and ever? And satan as well? wakeup. Those who reject salvation are not resurrected from the sleep of death. Like Satan's fate, their place shall not be found anymore. No one gets their teeth broken or cavities, we don't need teeth in extinction. Colter

Colter.

You obviously have not read about the flood and sodom
and gomorah.

wakeup.

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Colter. You obviously have not read about the flood and sodom and gomorah. wakeup.

I have, and this is what I believe to be the truth:

* When Genesis was being written, during the Babylonian captivity period, the Hebrew authors used a local, common Mesopotamian flood story in an attempt to link their blood lines back to Adam and Eve. It was widely believed in that age that Adam & Eve were the first humans. Because Adam & Eve were much older, about 37,000 older at the time of the Genesis composition, they were unable to trace their blood lines all the way back so it occurred to then to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness” by incorporating the story of Noah's flood.

* Sodom and Gomorrah were likely destroyed by an exploding asteroid. The theory is that the asteroid came in at a low trajectory and clipped a mountain in the Alps then literally exploded like a nuclear bomb in the air going forward. The force would have destroyed towns and caused heat, fire and sulfur like debris falling from the sky just as described in the Bible

Colter

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Quote Colter. You obviously have not read about the flood and sodom and gomorah. wakeup. I have, and this is what I believe to be the truth: * When Genesis was being written, during the Babylonian captivity period, the Hebrew authors used a local, common Mesopotamian flood story in an attempt to link their blood lines back to Adam and Eve. It was widely believed in that age that Adam & Eve were the first humans. Because Adam & Eve were much older, about 37,000 older at the time of the Genesis composition, they were unable to trace their blood lines all the way back so it occurred to then to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness” by incorporating the story of Noah's flood. * Sodom and Gomorrah were likely destroyed by an exploding asteroid. The theory is that the asteroid came in at a low trajectory and clipped a mountain in the Alps then literally exploded like a nuclear bomb in the air going forward. The force would have destroyed towns and caused heat, fire and sulfur like debris falling from the sky just as described in the Bible Colter

Colter.

What a coincidence;Just before the asteroid hit,
the two angels came and brought them out of the city.
So God was not resposible in the destruction of sodom and gomorah?

What about the israelites in the desert.
When God opened up the earth and swallow up the wicked?

God is the potter; and he can, and will discard the unworthy pots in the trash.

What about the 185000 assyrian soldiers killed overnight by the angel? 2 kings 19:35.
No, God would not do such a thing you say?

wakeup.

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Quote (Colter @ April 08 2013,23:20) Quote Colter. You obviously have not read about the flood and sodom and gomorah. wakeup. I have, and this is what I believe to be the truth: * When Genesis was being written, during the Babylonian captivity period, the Hebrew authors used a local, common Mesopotamian flood story in an attempt to link their blood lines back to Adam and Eve. It was widely believed in that age that Adam & Eve were the first humans. Because Adam & Eve were much older, about 37,000 older at the time of the Genesis composition, they were unable to trace their blood lines all the way back so it occurred to then to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness” by incorporating the story of Noah's flood. * Sodom and Gomorrah were likely destroyed by an exploding asteroid. The theory is that the asteroid came in at a low trajectory and clipped a mountain in the Alps then literally exploded like a nuclear bomb in the air going forward. The force would have destroyed towns and caused heat, fire and sulfur like debris falling from the sky just as described in the Bible Colter Colter. What a coincidence;Just before the asteroid hit, the two angels came and brought them out of the city. So God was not resposible in the destruction of sodom and gomorah? What about the israelites in the desert. When God opened up the earth and swallow up the wicked? God is the potter; and he can, and will discard the unworthy pots in the trash. What about the 185000 assyrian soldiers killed overnight by the angel? 2 kings 19:35. No, God would not do such a thing you say? wakeup.

No, the Loving Father revealed by Jesus would never have done such things, but the Hebrew authors, exaggerating their supposedly miraculous history, would say such things.

Prior to Jesus' revelation of the Father we may have had reason to believe such frightful things, but now there is no excuse to think of the Father is such a way.

Colter

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2013,00:16) Quote (Colter @ April 08 2013,23:20) Quote Colter. You obviously have not read about the flood and sodom and gomorah. wakeup. I have, and this is what I believe to be the truth: * When Genesis was being written, during the Babylonian captivity period, the Hebrew authors used a local, common Mesopotamian flood story in an attempt to link their blood lines back to Adam and Eve. It was widely believed in that age that Adam & Eve were the first humans. Because Adam & Eve were much older, about 37,000 older at the time of the Genesis composition, they were unable to trace their blood lines all the way back so it occurred to then to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness” by incorporating the story of Noah's flood. * Sodom and Gomorrah were likely destroyed by an exploding asteroid. The theory is that the asteroid came in at a low trajectory and clipped a mountain in the Alps then literally exploded like a nuclear bomb in the air going forward. The force would have destroyed towns and caused heat, fire and sulfur like debris falling from the sky just as described in the Bible Colter Colter. What a coincidence;Just before the asteroid hit, the two angels came and brought them out of the city. So God was not resposible in the destruction of sodom and gomorah? What about the israelites in the desert. When God opened up the earth and swallow up the wicked? God is the potter; and he can, and will discard the unworthy pots in the trash. What about the 185000 assyrian soldiers killed overnight by the angel? 2 kings 19:35. No, God would not do such a thing you say? wakeup. No, the Loving Father revealed by Jesus would never have done such things, but the Hebrew authors, exaggerating their supposedly miraculous history, would say such things. Prior to Jesus' revelation of the Father we may have had reason to believe such frightful things, but now there is no excuse to think of the Father is such a way. Colter

Colter.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**?

wakeup.

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Colter. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things. Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**? wakeup.

This is an indication that in olden times man thought that God created both good and evil, good spirits and evil spirits. As Judaism evolved this mistaken idea began to change.

A good illustration of this is the two differing accounts of the numbering of Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 states that God ‘moved’ David against Israel however centuries later another writer attributes this to Satan in 1 Chronicles 21:1

God is not a double minded house divided against himself. He does not have two opposing wills.

But in creating free will man he did create the

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potential

for man to choose evil, but Gods will is not evil.

Colter

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Quote Colter. Isaiah 45:7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things. Amos 3:6   Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**? wakeup. This is an indication that in olden times man thought that God created both good and evil, good spirits and evil spirits. As Judaism evolved this mistaken idea began to change. A good illustration of this is the two differing accounts of the numbering of Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 states that God ‘moved’ David against Israel however centuries later another writer attributes this to Satan in 1 Chronicles 21:1 God is not a double minded house divided against himself. He does not have two opposing wills. But in creating free will man he did create the Quote potential for man to choose evil, but Gods will is not evil. Colter

Colter.

If God can not do evil then he can not do everything.

Question: Who created Lucifer?

wakeup.

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Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,07:10) Quote Colter. Isaiah 45:7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things. Amos 3:6   Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**? wakeup. This is an indication that in olden times man thought that God created both good and evil, good spirits and evil spirits. As Judaism evolved this mistaken idea began to change. A good illustration of this is the two differing accounts of the numbering of Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 states that God ‘moved’ David against Israel however centuries later another writer attributes this to Satan in 1 Chronicles 21:1 God is not a double minded house divided against himself. He does not have two opposing wills. But in creating free will man he did create the Quote potential for man to choose evil, but Gods will is not evil. Colter Colter. If God can not do evil then he can not do everything. Question: Who created Lucifer? wakeup.

God created Lucifer with free will:

“You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you.”

“Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness.”

“How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds!”

(1299.1) 118:5.1 The omnipotence of Deity does not imply the power to do the nondoable. Within the time-space frame and from the intellectual reference point of mortal comprehension, even the infinite God cannot create square circles or produce evil that is inherently good. God cannot do the ungodlike thing. Such a contradiction of philosophic terms is the equivalent of nonentity and implies that nothing is thus created. A personality trait cannot at the same time be Godlike and ungodlike. Compossibility is innate in divine power. And all of this is derived from the fact that omnipotence not only creates things with a nature but also gives origin to the nature of all things and beings.UB

Colter

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2013,08:29) Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,07:10) Quote Colter. Isaiah 45:7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things. Amos 3:6   Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**? wakeup. This is an indication that in olden times man thought that God created both good and evil, good spirits and evil spirits. As Judaism evolved this mistaken idea began to change. A good illustration of this is the two differing accounts of the numbering of Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 states that God ‘moved’ David against Israel however centuries later another writer attributes this to Satan in 1 Chronicles 21:1 God is not a double minded house divided against himself. He does not have two opposing wills. But in creating free will man he did create the Quote potential for man to choose evil, but Gods will is not evil. Colter Colter. If God can not do evil then he can not do everything. Question: Who created Lucifer? wakeup. God created Lucifer with free will: “You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you.” “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness.” “How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds!” (1299.1) 118:5.1 The omnipotence of Deity does not imply the power to do the nondoable. Within the time-space frame and from the intellectual reference point of mortal comprehension, even the infinite God cannot create square circles or produce evil that is inherently good. God cannot do the ungodlike thing. Such a contradiction of philosophic terms is the equivalent of nonentity and implies that nothing is thus created. A personality trait cannot at the same time be Godlike and ungodlike. Compossibility is innate in divine power. And all of this is derived from the fact that omnipotence not only creates things with a nature but also gives origin to the nature of all things and beings.UB Colter

Colter.

Is God all knowing?

If so, then he also would know that lucifer was going to be
a rebbel. why did he create lucifer?(evil).

God also created nature;and will not go against his own creation. God also can not call evil good.
This world can;but that wont be the truth.

A square is a square;this is the truth.
A circle is a circle;this is the truth.
Good is good and this is the truth.
Evil is evil and this is the truth.

wakeup.

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Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,09:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2013,08:29) Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,07:10) Quote Colter. Isaiah 45:7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things. Amos 3:6   Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**? wakeup. This is an indication that in olden times man thought that God created both good and evil, good spirits and evil spirits. As Judaism evolved this mistaken idea began to change. A good illustration of this is the two differing accounts of the numbering of Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 states that God ‘moved’ David against Israel however centuries later another writer attributes this to Satan in 1 Chronicles 21:1 God is not a double minded house divided against himself. He does not have two opposing wills. But in creating free will man he did create the Quote potential for man to choose evil, but Gods will is not evil. Colter Colter. If God can not do evil then he can not do everything. Question: Who created Lucifer? wakeup. God created Lucifer with free will: “You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you.” “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness.” “How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds!” (1299.1) 118:5.1 The omnipotence of Deity does not imply the power to do the nondoable. Within the time-space frame and from the intellectual reference point of mortal comprehension, even the infinite God cannot create square circles or produce evil that is inherently good. God cannot do the ungodlike thing. Such a contradiction of philosophic terms is the equivalent of nonentity and implies that nothing is thus created. A personality trait cannot at the same time be Godlike and ungodlike. Compossibility is innate in divine power. And all of this is derived from the fact that omnipotence not only creates things with a nature but also gives origin to the nature of all things and beings.UB Colter Colter. Is God all knowing? If so, then he also would know that lucifer was going to be a rebbel. why did he create lucifer?(evil). God also created nature;and will not go against his own creation. God also can not call evil good. This world can;but that wont be the truth. A square is a square;this is the truth. A circle is a circle;this is the truth. Good is good and this is the truth. Evil is evil and this is the truth. wakeup.

All the beings that God created that are not God absolute are potentially imperfect. Lucifer, Satan and the prince of this world all fell. Angels fell, Midwayer's fell, but that was NOT the will of the Father.

The Son did not sin, but it was possible.

Lucifer, a high administrator could have remained Loyal to the concept of the Father and the will of his creator Son Michael, but he didn't. Therefore Lucifer created his own evil, in giving life to Lucifer God merely created the potential for evil.

Just because God knows somethingdoesn't mean that he condones it.

Colter

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,00:30) Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,09:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2013,08:29) Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,07:10) Quote Colter. Isaiah 45:7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things. Amos 3:6   Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**? wakeup. This is an indication that in olden times man thought that God created both good and evil, good spirits and evil spirits. As Judaism evolved this mistaken idea began to change. A good illustration of this is the two differing accounts of the numbering of Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 states that God ‘moved’ David against Israel however centuries later another writer attributes this to Satan in 1 Chronicles 21:1 God is not a double minded house divided against himself. He does not have two opposing wills. But in creating free will man he did create the Quote potential for man to choose evil, but Gods will is not evil. Colter Colter. If God can not do evil then he can not do everything. Question: Who created Lucifer? wakeup. God created Lucifer with free will: “You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you.” “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness.” “How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds!” (1299.1) 118:5.1 The omnipotence of Deity does not imply the power to do the nondoable. Within the time-space frame and from the intellectual reference point of mortal comprehension, even the infinite God cannot create square circles or produce evil that is inherently good. God cannot do the ungodlike thing. Such a contradiction of philosophic terms is the equivalent of nonentity and implies that nothing is thus created. A personality trait cannot at the same time be Godlike and ungodlike. Compossibility is innate in divine power. And all of this is derived from the fact that omnipotence not only creates things with a nature but also gives origin to the nature of all things and beings.UB Colter Colter. Is God all knowing? If so, then he also would know that lucifer was going to be a rebbel. why did he create lucifer?(evil). God also created nature;and will not go against his own creation. God also can not call evil good. This world can;but that wont be the truth. A square is a square;this is the truth. A circle is a circle;this is the truth. Good is good and this is the truth. Evil is evil and this is the truth. wakeup. All the beings that God created that are not God absolute are potentially imperfect. Lucifer, Satan and the prince of this world all fell. Angels fell, Midwayer's fell, but that was NOT the will of the Father. The Son did not sin, but it was possible. Lucifer, a high administrator could have remained Loyal to the concept of the Father and the will of his creator Son Michael, but he didn't. Therefore Lucifer created his own evil, in giving life to Lucifer God merely created the potential for evil. Just because God knows somethingdoesn't mean that he condones it. Colter

Colter.

So God knew,And he still did it.
He still created evil,because he knew.
He could have aborted it, but he did not.
God created evil.

The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going.
This is evil.

wakeup.

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Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup.

The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God.

You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also:

13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this……………

It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast.

Your logic is inconsistent.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,01:28) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,00:30) Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,09:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 09 2013,08:29) Quote (Colter @ April 09 2013,07:10) Quote Colter. Isaiah 45:7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **CREATE EVIL**: I the LORD do all these things. Amos 3:6   Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath **not done it**? wakeup. This is an indication that in olden times man thought that God created both good and evil, good spirits and evil spirits. As Judaism evolved this mistaken idea began to change. A good illustration of this is the two differing accounts of the numbering of Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 states that God ‘moved’ David against Israel however centuries later another writer attributes this to Satan in 1 Chronicles 21:1 God is not a double minded house divided against himself. He does not have two opposing wills. But in creating free will man he did create the Quote potential for man to choose evil, but Gods will is not evil. Colter Colter. If God can not do evil then he can not do everything. Question: Who created Lucifer? wakeup. God created Lucifer with free will: “You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created till unrighteousness was found in you.” “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness.” “How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cast down, you who dared to confuse the worlds!” (1299.1) 118:5.1 The omnipotence of Deity does not imply the power to do the nondoable. Within the time-space frame and from the intellectual reference point of mortal comprehension, even the infinite God cannot create square circles or produce evil that is inherently good. God cannot do the ungodlike thing. Such a contradiction of philosophic terms is the equivalent of nonentity and implies that nothing is thus created. A personality trait cannot at the same time be Godlike and ungodlike. Compossibility is innate in divine power. And all of this is derived from the fact that omnipotence not only creates things with a nature but also gives origin to the nature of all things and beings.UB Colter Colter. Is God all knowing? If so, then he also would know that lucifer was going to be a rebbel. why did he create lucifer?(evil). God also created nature;and will not go against his own creation. God also can not call evil good. This world can;but that wont be the truth. A square is a square;this is the truth. A circle is a circle;this is the truth. Good is good and this is the truth. Evil is evil and this is the truth. wakeup. All the beings that God created that are not God absolute are potentially imperfect. Lucifer, Satan and the prince of this world all fell. Angels fell, Midwayer's fell, but that was NOT the will of the Father. The Son did not sin, but it was possible. Lucifer, a high administrator could have remained Loyal to the concept of the Father and the will of his creator Son Michael, but he didn't. Therefore Lucifer created his own evil, in giving life to Lucifer God merely created the potential for evil. Just because God knows somethingdoesn't mean that he condones it. Colter Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup.

I don't agree with you, God cannot be both good and evil, God cannot have a good will and an evil will.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,03:44)

Quote Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup. The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God. You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also: 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this…………… It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast. Your logic is inconsistent. Colter

Colter.

the point here is that God created good and evil,of which you disagree.

Yes, he has a purpose for all he is doing.
You need to understand what that purpose is,
but not by studying the ub.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,06:43)

Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,03:44) Quote Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup. The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God. You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also: 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this…………… It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast. Your logic is inconsistent. Colter Colter. the point here is that God created good and evil,of which you disagree. Yes, he has a purpose for all he is doing. You need to understand what that purpose is, but not by studying the ub. wakeup.

You believe that God has 2 opposing wills —><—

According to that baron philosophy, to do good is Gods will, and to do evil is Gods will.

You obviously haven't spent much time thinking about the consequences of that.

Colter

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,06:43) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,03:44) Quote Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup. The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God. You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also: 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this…………… It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast. Your logic is inconsistent. Colter Colter. the point here is that God created good and evil,of which you disagree. Yes, he has a purpose for all he is doing. You need to understand what that purpose is, but not by studying the ub. wakeup. You believe that God has 2 opposing wills —><— According to that baron philosophy, to do good is Gods will, and to do evil is Gods will. You obviously haven't spent much time thinking about the consequences of that. Colter

Colter.

The whole plan of God is to bring evil in this world
so we know what is bad,and what is good.
Evil has to run its course,it has to reach to the maximum
and then it will be harvested,and destroyed.
Not before it reaches its maximum.

God always uses the wicked at heart to do the evil work.
And he uses the good at heart to do the good work.
The whole purpose of his plan is to banish evil for ever.

Angels in heaven are also watching evil prosper,and learning what evil really is.
Evil can not be manifest in heaven amongst the spirit creatures,that is the reason God created flesh;so lucifer could
perform his act,amongst flesh.

The rope is tightening around satans neck. He will be no more for ever,and all will know what is good and what is evil,because all have experienced it and seen it,and tasted it.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,07:58)

Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,07:38) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,06:43) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,03:44) Quote Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup. The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God. You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also: 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this…………… It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast. Your logic is inconsistent. Colter Colter. the point here is that God created good and evil,of which you disagree. Yes, he has a purpose for all he is doing. You need to understand what that purpose is, but not by studying the ub. wakeup. You believe that God has 2 opposing wills —><— According to that baron philosophy, to do good is Gods will, and to do evil is Gods will. You obviously haven't spent much time thinking about the consequences of that. Colter Colter. The whole plan of God is to bring evil in this world so we know what is bad,and what is good. Evil has to run its course,it has to reach to the maximum and then it will be harvested,and destroyed. Not before it reaches its maximum. God always uses the wicked at heart to do the evil work. And he uses the good at heart to do the good work. The whole purpose of his plan is to banish evil for ever. Angels in heaven are also watching evil prosper,and learning what evil really is. Evil can not be manifest in heaven amongst the spirit creatures,that is the reason God created flesh;so lucifer could perform his act,amongst flesh. The rope is tightening around satans neck. He will be no more for ever,and all will know what is good and what is evil,because all have experienced it and seen it,and tasted it. wakeup.

You are very confused about the loving Father who was revealed in the Son who never did evil.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,09:18)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,07:58) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,07:38) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,06:43) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,03:44) Quote Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup. The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God. You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also: 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this…………… It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast. Your logic is inconsistent. Colter Colter. the point here is that God created good and evil,of which you disagree. Yes, he has a purpose for all he is doing. You need to understand what that purpose is, but not by studying the ub. wakeup. You believe that God has 2 opposing wills —><— According to that baron philosophy, to do good is Gods will, and to do evil is Gods will. You obviously haven't spent much time thinking about the consequences of that. Colter Colter. The whole plan of God is to bring evil in this world so we know what is bad,and what is good. Evil has to run its course,it has to reach to the maximum and then it will be harvested,and destroyed. Not before it reaches its maximum. God always uses the wicked at heart to do the evil work. And he uses the good at heart to do the good work. The whole purpose of his plan is to banish evil for ever. Angels in heaven are also watching evil prosper,and learning what evil really is. Evil can not be manifest in heaven amongst the spirit creatures,that is the reason God created flesh;so lucifer could perform his act,amongst flesh. The rope is tightening around satans neck. He will be no more for ever,and all will know what is good and what is evil,because all have experienced it and seen it,and tasted it. wakeup. You are very confused about the loving Father who was revealed in the Son who never did evil. Colter

Colter.

You are blatantly rejecting scriptures.

I form the light and create darkness:
I make peace and create evil,I the Lord
do all these things.(isaiah 45:7).

Who create darkness Colter?

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,13:05)

Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,09:18) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,07:58) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,07:38) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,06:43) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,03:44) Quote Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup. The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God. You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also: 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this…………… It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast. Your logic is inconsistent. Colter Colter. the point here is that God created good and evil,of which you disagree. Yes, he has a purpose for all he is doing. You need to understand what that purpose is, but not by studying the ub. wakeup. You believe that God has 2 opposing wills —><— According to that baron philosophy, to do good is Gods will, and to do evil is Gods will. You obviously haven't spent much time thinking about the consequences of that. Colter Colter. The whole plan of God is to bring evil in this world so we know what is bad,and what is good. Evil has to run its course,it has to reach to the maximum and then it will be harvested,and destroyed. Not before it reaches its maximum. God always uses the wicked at heart to do the evil work. And he uses the good at heart to do the good work. The whole purpose of his plan is to banish evil for ever. Angels in heaven are also watching evil prosper,and learning what evil really is. Evil can not be manifest in heaven amongst the spirit creatures,that is the reason God created flesh;so lucifer could perform his act,amongst flesh. The rope is tightening around satans neck. He will be no more for ever,and all will know what is good and what is evil,because all have experienced it and seen it,and tasted it. wakeup. You are very confused about the loving Father who was revealed in the Son who never did evil. Colter Colter. You are blatantly rejecting scriptures. I form the light and create darkness: I make peace and create evil,I the Lord do all these things.(isaiah 45:7). Who create darkness Colter? wakeup.

You and Isaiah both believe God had split personality disorder. That makes at least (2) of you.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,15:50)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,13:05) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,09:18) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,07:58) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,07:38) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,06:43) Quote (Colter @ April 10 2013,03:44) Quote Colter. So God knew,And he still did it. He still created evil,because he knew. He could have aborted it, but he did not. God created evil. The atomic bomb was also made by man knowing it is going to kill many,but they kept on going. This is evil. wakeup. The truth is God created beings with the potential to fail…..but even failures serve a purpose in demonstrating the goodness of God. You claim that just because God knows everything he condones it, that’s not how the exchange read after Even sinned…..whom God created also: 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” 14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this…………… It was not the will of God for Eve to sin or the beast. Your logic is inconsistent. Colter Colter. the point here is that God created good and evil,of which you disagree. Yes, he has a purpose for all he is doing. You need to understand what that purpose is, but not by studying the ub. wakeup. You believe that God has 2 opposing wills —><— According to that baron philosophy, to do good is Gods will, and to do evil is Gods will. You obviously haven't spent much time thinking about the consequences of that. Colter Colter. The whole plan of God is to bring evil in this world so we know what is bad,and what is good. Evil has to run its course,it has to reach to the maximum and then it will be harvested,and destroyed. Not before it reaches its maximum. God always uses the wicked at heart to do the evil work. And he uses the good at heart to do the good work. The whole purpose of his plan is to banish evil for ever. Angels in heaven are also watching evil prosper,and learning what evil really is. Evil can not be manifest in heaven amongst the spirit creatures,that is the reason God created flesh;so lucifer could perform his act,amongst flesh. The rope is tightening around satans neck. He will be no more for ever,and all will know what is good and what is evil,because all have experienced it and seen it,and tasted it. wakeup. You are very confused about the loving Father who was revealed in the Son who never did evil. Colter Colter. You are blatantly rejecting scriptures. I form the light and create darkness: I make peace and create evil,I the Lord do all these things.(isaiah 45:7). Who create darkness Colter? wakeup. You and Isaiah both believe God had split personality disorder. That makes at least (2) of you. Colter

Colter.

Now it is Isaiah that is corrupt,who is next?
Anyone that is in your way is corrupt, only your words are truth. the ub cannot be used to defend the truth,because there is no truth in it.

The scriptures are so written;that it can not be contradicted
without getting bogged down in the end.

God has made sure of this.

wakeup.

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