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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:35) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:26) Yeah, clerical error but not with my understanding about the truth of God. I must type it after the word “one faith.
Hi linjunus,Another mistake, “Faith” is not doctrine either?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote Another mistake, “Faith” is not doctrine either? Faith is not a doctrines? It is a doctrine of Christ Jesus, that we must have faith; without a faith we could not please God.
“FAITH” is a part of the doctrines of our Lord Jesus Christ.
“FAITH” is hope against hope and we must live in FAITH.
DEar ED J,
“FAITH” must not be wrong or against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any faith that's contrary the right faith hath teach by our Lord Jesus Christ could beneficial and can lead the people to hell.
18. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20. idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions,
HERESIES,21. envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“HERESIES” is a faith not teach and against the doctrines of Christ.
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,16:48) DEar ED J, “FAITH” must not be wrong or against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any faith that's contrary the right faith hath teach by our Lord Jesus Christ could beneficial and can lead the people to hell.
18. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20. idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions,
HERESIES,21. envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“HERESIES” is a faith not teach and against the doctrines of Christ.
Dear ED J,“FAITH” must not be wrong or against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any faith that's contrary the right faith hath teach by our Lord Jesus Christ could NOT beneficial and can lead the people to hell.
18. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20. idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions,
HERESIES,21. envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“HERESIES” is a faith not teach and against the doctrines of Christ.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:23) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:06) Dear ED J, Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. Hebrews 13:17 21st KJV.
There must be one administration that we should be accountable, because they are the one looking after our souls. Let them do their jobs with joy and not with grief for it is not good for us.
Hi linjunus,“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is
unprofitable for you.” (Heb 13:17)They most certainly will have to give an account for what they have been telling you!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,You still not seeing the light. God, is the one creating the governing system inside the body of Christ, the church and you do not want to be under their rule. I am felt soory for you.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:26) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:14) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:04) Hi linjunus, All of Christ's body believes that Jesus died
for our sins and will resurrect us the last day.
Is that not unity? (<– Please answer)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I have no problem about it.
The problem is, “you must not belong to the so called by the Bible “outsiders”. It means, you are not part of the body of Christ.
Hi linjunus,I agree, but I happen to be an “Insider” in the body of Christ!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,How could you be a part or inside the body of Christ, if you rejecting the governing officials (elders) hath placed by God, inside his church and you have a different faith or beliefs?
Show your convincing evidences without reasonable doubt and not just say it from your own mind. It should be bakc-up by Biblical proofs.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:31) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:14) Dear Ed J, Every one professing christian was believing that the Lord Jesus Christ died, but not everyone believing that he died for his church. The salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ is open to everyone in this world but it is accompany by the rules and regulations; one of the regulation among the rules is to be part of his body and be members in particular. 1 Cor. 12:27.
Hi linjunus,Here is what 1 Cor 12:27 really says:
(nothing about your organizations rules and regulations here)“Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” (1 Cor 12:27)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,Do not just use a verse to make a point about your faith. I have been noticed that you have a practice of using a verse from the Bible, but out of the topic.
The 1 Cor. 12:27 is a only a tip of an Ice Berg. I have shown you so many verses in connection with what we have been dealing for?. Read back and do some refreshing.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:47) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:36) Dear Ed J, Now you are turning to be the accuser
You have only the darkness and not the light of truth.
Hi linjunus,Your own words prove you (rather than me) are an accuser.
(please re-read your own unfruitful words my dear brother)
“For every tree is known by his own fruit.” (Luke 6:44)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,Now, you are running away from the truth that I had presented. I am talking about the Isaiah 8:20
I f you are not spoken according to Isaiah 8:20 you have no light.
It is not my words. It is the words of God. If you want to be spared with Isaiah 8:20, you must speak according to it.
But, you did not and still insisting that you have the “light”?
You are now preaching the doctrines against the doctrines of God and trying your very best to divert the issue to my personality and branding me unpleasant without mentioning any verse to backup you accusation on me.
“For every tree is known by his own fruit.” (Luke 6:44)
The verse you had used above is for what kind of the tree and we could recognize what kind of the tree it sis by it's fruits.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:53) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:51) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:41) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:36) Dear Ed J, Now you are turning to be the accuser
Hi linjunus,How so, for pointing out that God's word has been perverted by so called translators? …this is a fact brother!
God bless
Ed J
Dear ED J,Even though there were millions of incorrect translators with the words of God, there is no difficulty with the true preacher/s sent by God.
Hi linjunus,Correct, it does not present a problem for me.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,Prove it first that you are the true preacher by God, or your group have a true messenger sent by God, before you can say that it's doesn't give you a problem.
It is easy to anyone to say it either, but proving is another difficult things for you to do.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:59) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:54) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:47) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:36) Dear Ed J, Now you are turning to be the accuser
You have only the darkness and not the light of truth.
Hi linjunus,Your own words prove you (rather than me) are an accuser.
(please re-read your own unfruitful words my dear brother)
“For every tree is known by his own fruit.” (Luke 6:44)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,Do not cut my references and pointing out another issue.
You must quote the whole truth and not by cutting it into pieces.
Hi linjunus,Does what you have said now bother you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,No. Sharing the truth about God's will to anyone in a proper time and place is my joy and holy duty to Him.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,18:04) Hi linjunus, Since you have closed your mind, I will not further our discussion at this point.
But go back in the not to far distant future and re-read the entire discourse
between me and you, when your mind and emotions are not so clouded.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote Since you have closed your mind, I will not further our discussion at this point.
But go back in the not to far distant future and re-read the entire discourse
between me and you, when your mind and emotions are not so clouded.Likewise.
You must says it to yourself and not on me. Until this moment you have failed to show the divine credential of your group or your preacher/s. in accordance with Isaiah 8:20 / Romans 10:14-15, 17
And I will cease in dealing with anymore, because a lots of proofs from the Bible has been shown in this page.
Quote (jammin @ Feb. 10 2013,05:44) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,14:46) Dear Jammin, im not ignoring your question. in fact, i still a have a question for you. but you are not answering mine boy.
im a member of the TRUE church of christ.
not a church founded by manalo.can you verse that says that the bird of prey is manalo?
can you give a commentary that says manalo is the bird of prey?
can you give any bible scholars who believe manalo is the bird of prey? study hard boy.make your own bible
Quote For the sake of our peaceful discussion and to respect the professional code of ethics I will give the answer you are longing for about the “bird of prey”
[/B]The Isaiah 46:11-13 is one among so many testimony of our Bro. Felix Y. Manalo as his divine credential base on the pattern of God, to distinguish the true preacher sent by God. The same testimonies or written prophecies for John the Baptist, Lord Jesus and the Apostles.
11. Calling a bird of prey from the far east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.
The bird of pray is a man from the far east from a far country; executing the counsel of the Lord God Take note: The man is from the far east, from a far country.
12. “Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted, Who are far from righteousness:
The bird of pray is carrying the messages of the Lord God to the people whose heart is stubborn and far the righteousness (gospel); The mission of the bird of pray is to preach the gospel, as what God, said “LISTEN”. corresponding to the Romans 10:14-15, 17 KJV
13. I bring My righteousness near, it shall not be far off; My salvation shall not linger. And I will place salvation in Zion, For Israel My glory. (James Moffat Version)
Through the instrumentality of the bird of pray, the Lord God, shall bring his righteousness to them, the preaching of the gospel is not too long and the salvation of the Sion (church) shall be in place for the Israel (representing the new Israel, the Church of Christ)
i cant read manalo there.
it says cyrus. commentary also said that. scholars also believe that.
no scholars will believe your illusion boy. you have to make your own bible.im a member of the true church of christ. i already told you about this
Dear Jammin,I can not read the name Cyrus either.
Cyrus is the “bird of prey? Did he finished preaching the righteousness (gospel) in his time to those people very far from the righteousness of God? …. where is the fulfillment of the salvation to the Sion (Church)?
Isaiah 46:11-13 is related with Isaiah 43:5-7, 10 and Isaiah 42:10
Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise from the ends of the earth, you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, you islands, and all who live in them.
The time is the ends of the earth, in the Far east to the far west in the islands of the sea.
Dear Jammin,
i cant read manalo there.
it says cyrus. commentary also said that. scholars also believe that.
no scholars will believe your illusion boy. you have to make your own bible.im a member of the true church of christ. i already told you about this
.
Jammin, everybody is saying it easily, “I am a member of the true Church of Christ. But proving with the back-up of the Biblical proofs is not easy for you to do.
Bible Scholars, who are they? They are not the preachers sent by God. The Status for being a Bible Scholar is not sufficient and not sanction by the will of God, to be rely on about the truth of God.
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,16:36) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:35) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:26) Yeah, clerical error but not with my understanding about the truth of God. I must type it after the word “one faith.
Hi linjunus,Another mistake, “Faith” is not doctrine either?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Quote Another mistake, “Faith” is not doctrine either? Faith is not a doctrines? It is a doctrine of Christ Jesus, that we must have faith; without a faith we could not please God.
“FAITH” is a part of the doctrines of our Lord Jesus Christ.
“FAITH” is hope against hope and we must live in FAITH.
SpinI never said we do not need faith; DO NOT TRY TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,16:48) DEar ED J, “FAITH” must not be wrong or against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any faith that's contrary the right faith hath teach by our Lord Jesus Christ could beneficial and can lead the people to hell.
18. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20. idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions,
HERESIES,21. envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“HERESIES” is a faith not teach and against the doctrines of Christ.
More spinQuote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,16:49) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,16:48) DEar ED J, “FAITH” must not be wrong or against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any faith that's contrary the right faith hath teach by our Lord Jesus Christ could beneficial and can lead the people to hell.
18. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20. idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions,
HERESIES,21. envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“HERESIES” is a faith not teach and against the doctrines of Christ.
Dear ED J,“FAITH” must not be wrong or against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any faith that's contrary the right faith hath teach by our Lord Jesus Christ could NOT beneficial and can lead the people to hell.
18. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20. idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions,
HERESIES,21. envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
“HERESIES” is a faith not teach and against the doctrines of Christ.
Why did you copy and repeat this post?Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,16:54) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:23) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:06) Dear ED J, Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. Hebrews 13:17 21st KJV.
There must be one administration that we should be accountable, because they are the one looking after our souls. Let them do their jobs with joy and not with grief for it is not good for us.
Hi linjunus,“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is
unprofitable for you.” (Heb 13:17)They most certainly will have to give an account for what they have been telling you!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,You still not seeing the light. God, is the one creating the governing system inside the body of Christ, the church and you do not want to be under their rule. I am felt soory for you.
Hi linjunus,'i am' IS MY ENEMY. (Link)
Neither YOU nor your group are in charge of me either.
Name-calling on your part does not change anything; but it does show bad fruit.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,16:59) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:26) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:14) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:04) Hi linjunus, All of Christ's body believes that Jesus died
for our sins and will resurrect us the last day.
Is that not unity? (<– Please answer)God bless
Ed J
Dear Ed J,I have no problem about it.
The problem is, “you must not belong to the so called by the Bible “outsiders”. It means, you are not part of the body of Christ.
Hi linjunus,I agree, but I happen to be an “Insider” in the body of Christ!
God bless
Ed J
Dear ED J,(1) How could you be a part or inside the body of Christ, if you rejecting the governing officials (elders) hath placed by God, inside his church and you have a different faith or beliefs?
(2) Show your convincing evidences without reasonable doubt (3)and not just say it from your own mind. (4)It should be bakc-up by Biblical proofs.
Hi linjunus,1) I, Ed J, happen to be YOUR elder.
2) Speak clearly please and explain what you mean by that?
3) Huh?
4) What is this 'IT' you are referring to?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,17:03) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,17:31) Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 09 2013,17:14) Dear Ed J, Every one professing christian was believing that the Lord Jesus Christ died, but not everyone believing that he died for his church. The salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ is open to everyone in this world but it is accompany by the rules and regulations; one of the regulation among the rules is to be part of his body and be members in particular. 1 Cor. 12:27.
Hi linjunus,Here is what 1 Cor 12:27 really says:
(nothing about your organizations rules and regulations here)“Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” (1 Cor 12:27)
God bless
Ed J
Dear ED J,(1)Do not just use a verse to make a point about your faith. (2)I have been noticed that you have a practice of using a verse from the Bible, but out of the topic.
The (3)1 Cor. 12:27 is a only a tip of an Ice Berg. I have shown you so many verses in connection with what we have been dealing for?. (4)Read back and do some refreshing.
Hi linjunus,1) Why not? (ref. 2 Tim 3:16-17 )
2Tm.3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.2) I use Scripture for its intended use; SEE POINT #1.
3) 1 Cor 12:27 “Now ye (Ed J and others) are the body of Christ, and members in particular.”
4) That is precisely what I told you to do!
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,18:04) Hi linjunus, Since you have closed your mind, I will not further our discussion at this point.
But go back in the not to far distant future and re-read the entire discourse
between me and you, when your mind and emotions are not so clouded.Your brother
in Christ,
Ed JGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,17:13) Dear ED J, Now, you are running away from the truth that I had presented. I am talking about the Isaiah 8:20
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,17:03)
I have been noticed that you have a practice of using a verse (*Isaiah 8:20) from the Bible, but out of the topic.* (Added by Ed J)
Quote (limjunus @ Feb. 10 2013,17:17) Dear ED J, 1) Prove it first that you are the true preacher by God, or your group have a true messenger sent by God, before you can say that it's doesn't give you a problem.
2) It is easy to anyone to say it either, but proving is another difficult things for you to do.
Hi linjunus,1) I have shown you from God's word;
of course you are free to reject God's word;
but I would not recommend you practice doing that.2) That's why you have not been able to prove that about your group.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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