THE MESSENGERS OF GOD

[limjunus]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,17:09)

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,16:04) Dear ED j, Claim no. 1.  Our church or group has the Biblical testimony and law  as what Isaiah 8:20 said.  The Biblical prophecies is the divine credential of our church. Claim No. 2. Our church is the true church of Christ because we have a unique and the same doctrines as of the 1st century church of Christ. Hi Limjunus, 1:  “Should not a people seek unto their God?”  (Isaiah 8:19) We as Christians do seek unto our God, not to your organization. 2: We as “Christians” hold to the same doctrines as taught by YHVH. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed j,

As what our Lord and Savior instructed the people who really seeking the Lord God. As what it was written:

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
. Matthew 6:33 KJV

Seek the kingdom of God, first (the kingdom of God here on earth is the kingdom of his Son, the church of Christ) …. and the righteousness of God, ids the gospel of Christ, …and the gospel of Christ could be heard only from the preacher sent by God. … because if the preachers are not sent by God, there are the so called “false preachers”.

[limjunus]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,17:09)

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,16:04) Dear ED j, Claim no. 1.  Our church or group has the Biblical testimony and law  as what Isaiah 8:20 said.  The Biblical prophecies is the divine credential of our church. Claim No. 2. Our church is the true church of Christ because we have a unique and the same doctrines as of the 1st century church of Christ. Hi Limjunus, 1:  “Should not a people seek unto their God?”  (Isaiah 8:19) We as Christians do seek unto our God, not to your organization. 2: We as “Christians” hold to the same doctrines as taught by YHVH. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

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2: We as “Christians” hold to the same doctrines as taught by YHVH.

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How can you hold the same doctrines teach by Yahweh; who teach you the same doctrines of Yahweh? There are many false preachers roaming around the world.

Only the true messenger (sent) of God, could be able to teach you the true and the same doctrines of Yahweh, the rest are all false preachers and false prophets.

Our Lord and Savior and the true prophets of God, told the true doctrines of Yahweh a long time ago; “There is no other God, beside me, … there is no other God, except me, … there is no other God before me and there will no more after me, … my Father in heaven is the only true God,…” .

Watch Tower Society teach their doctrines: “Almighty God (Father) and Mighty God (the Son)

Roman Catholic Church (RCC) teach their doctrines: Father is truly God, The Son is truly God and the Holy Spirit is truly God, but these three (in disguise of persons) are one truly God.

Protestantism teach their doctrines: Father is God and the Son is also God, but there are one God.

Only the Church Of Christ – 1914 is the only Christian organization/ group nowadays is teaching the original doctrines of Yahweh; “… there is no other true God, except the Father of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, no more. (period)

[limjunus]

TO ALL:

See you again …

Praises and glories be unto the Father and God of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

[terraricca]

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,10:43)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,12:55) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 09 2013,13:08) TO ALL: How we could listen to the voices (doctrines/ teaching) of the Lord ans Savior Jesus Christ, he is in heaven? Here is the Scriptural evidences: 3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves. 16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. 14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?  15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 17Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.  Luke 10:3, 16 / Romans 10:14-15, 17 NIV. Seek the preacher/s sent (messenger/angel) by God, ask their divine credential to prove the veracity and the authenticity of their divine credential. There should speak in accordance with the Scriptural law and the testimony. Isaiah 8:20 KJV. LMJ are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks Dear Terraricca, Quote are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks . Seed is the words of God.  The words of God, must teach by the messenger sent by God, so faith comes by hearing the words of God.  (Romans 10:14-15, 17). To whom did you heard the words of God? he must be sent by God. How to know that the preacher is the true messenger of God, to preach his words? By Biblical prophecies intended for him before he was born.

lmj

you can not even see ;your actions are all about to establish a man in authority ,while all the apostles written testimony is about the truth spoken by Christ the son of God ,

you are as fake as it could be ;God does with his written word what he wants ,

look what he did with the greedy people he use them to print his written word, and in many languages ,and paid them well

[limjunus]

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Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,10:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,12:55) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 09 2013,13:08) TO ALL: How we could listen to the voices (doctrines/ teaching) of the Lord ans Savior Jesus Christ, he is in heaven? Here is the Scriptural evidences: 3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves. 16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. 14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?  15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 17Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.  Luke 10:3, 16 / Romans 10:14-15, 17 NIV. Seek the preacher/s sent (messenger/angel) by God, ask their divine credential to prove the veracity and the authenticity of their divine credential. There should speak in accordance with the Scriptural law and the testimony. Isaiah 8:20 KJV. LMJ are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks Dear Terraricca, Quote are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks . Seed is the words of God.  The words of God, must teach by the messenger sent by God, so faith comes by hearing the words of God.  (Romans 10:14-15, 17). To whom did you heard the words of God? he must be sent by God. How to know that the preacher is the true messenger of God, to preach his words? By Biblical prophecies intended for him before he was born. lmj you can not even see ;your actions are all about to establish a man in authority ,while all the apostles written testimony is about the truth spoken by Christ the son of God , you are as fake as it could be ;God does with his written word what he wants , look what he did with the greedy people he use them to print his written word, and in many languages ,and paid them well

Dear Terraricca,

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you are as fake as it could be ;God does with his written word what he wants ,

Yes, and you could not set aside the written one about who shall be the preacher of the words of God, … he must be sent or messenger of God, with the support of the Biblical law and testimony as his divine credentials.

Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 KJV.
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Terraricca, do not go against the written words of God, observe it and be with it. … either you like it or not, you must be heard the words of God, from a preacher sent by Him.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,19:46) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,10:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,12:55) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 09 2013,13:08) TO ALL: How we could listen to the voices (doctrines/ teaching) of the Lord ans Savior Jesus Christ, he is in heaven? Here is the Scriptural evidences: 3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves. 16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. 14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?  15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 17Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.  Luke 10:3, 16 / Romans 10:14-15, 17 NIV. Seek the preacher/s sent (messenger/angel) by God, ask their divine credential to prove the veracity and the authenticity of their divine credential. There should speak in accordance with the Scriptural law and the testimony. Isaiah 8:20 KJV. LMJ are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks Dear Terraricca, Quote are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks . Seed is the words of God.  The words of God, must teach by the messenger sent by God, so faith comes by hearing the words of God.  (Romans 10:14-15, 17). To whom did you heard the words of God? he must be sent by God. How to know that the preacher is the true messenger of God, to preach his words? By Biblical prophecies intended for him before he was born. lmj you can not even see ;your actions are all about to establish a man in authority ,while all the apostles written testimony is about the truth spoken by Christ the son of God , you are as fake as it could be ;God does with his written word what he wants , look what he did with the greedy people he use them to print his written word, and in many languages ,and paid them well   Dear Terraricca, Quote you are as fake as it could be ;God does with his written word what he wants , Yes, and you could not set aside the written one about who shall be the preacher of the words of God, … he must be sent or messenger of God, with the support of the Biblical law and testimony as his divine credentials. Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20  KJV. . Terraricca, do not go against the written words of God, observe it and be with it. … either you like it or not, you must be heard the words of God, from a preacher sent by Him.

Limj

I have more knowledge than you have ,and it as been given to me through the scriptures ,because I believe the scriptures but you do not you believe in men ,you are fake and talk like a deceiver ,

[limjunus]

TO ALL:

[/B]23For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body. 24And so wives must submit themselves completely to their husbands just as the church submits itself to Christ. 25Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave his life for it..

verses 23-25: Christ Jesus has authority over the church and he is the savior of the church and the church must be submitted to Christ, because he died for her; Christ hath purchased her from the bondage of sins. He (Christ) now the owner of chosen people of God, which are inside his church.

26He did this to dedicate the church to God by his word, after making it clean by washing it in water, 27in order to present the church to himself in all its beauty–pure and faultless, without spot or wrinkle or any other imperfection. .
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verses 26-27: Christ did the offering of his life as the sacrificing lambs to clean the church (chosen people called by God, inside the church) from her sins and to be presented to himself pure and faultless, without spot or wrinkle or any other imperfection before God. (in short, to be considered by God as holy people through the redemption done by the Messiah for the forgiveness of their sins).

Men ought to love their wives just as they love their own bodies. A man who loves his wife loves himself. 29(No one ever hates his own body. Instead, he feeds it and takes care of it, just as Christ does the church; 30for we are members of his body.)..

verses 28-30: the church is counted as the body of Christ, he feed and take care the church because she is belong to Christ as his body and hath considered her as his wife; for being Christ's wife, he loves her very much. (in short: Christ is responsible to his own body; own church and his own wife). The chosen people of God, inside the church of Christ, counted as the members or part of his body as a whole; a group or an organization of the believers/followers which Christ is the head (Lord/President).

31As the scripture says, “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and unite with his wife, and the two will become one.” 32There is a deep secret truth revealed in this scripture, which I understand as applying to Christ and the church..

verses 31-32: Christ and the church is counted by God, as husband and wife. There no longer two but one (one new man Eph. 2:15-17 KJV) before God. The wall or partition (eniquities/sins of men is the cause of war between God and men) has been destroyed through the sacrifice death of the church's head (Christ) and the two (God and men) have been reconciled (peace treaty).

At the end of time, Christ and his wife (church/body) shall be together and be happy forever and ever as the newly husband and wife in Paradise.

Christ and the church has been designed by God, to be one, as a new man, a second man, a new generation made and molded by the power (words) of God. It is the will of God, that Christ and his church be part of each other as one new man before God, and they must not be asunder by men.

Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.. Matthew 19:6 KJV.

We could not just take the head (Christ) and leave the church, his body as what the other christian groups stand for. If anybody, whoever and whichever he/she is, are wholeheartedly accepting Christ Jesus as his/her personal Lord and Savior, he/she could not ignore that the Christ's believer must be also to part of his body, the church and be the members in particular.

WE must be part of his church or his body and be united in one body or organization (members in particular 1 Cor. 12:27 KJV) which is the head is Christ. The very importance of the Church Of Christ.

Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
. 1 Cor. 12:27 KJV.

As what God's testimony concerning Christ and his church (wife) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.. Matthew 19:6 / Eph. 5:31-32 KJV.

As the scripture says, “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and unite with his wife, and the two will become one.” 32There is a deep secret truth revealed in this scripture, which I understand as applying to Christ and the church. …. Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder..

Conclusion: At the end of time, Christ and his wife (church/body) shall be place together before God, in Paradise and be happily ever and with everlasting life as the spiritual husband and wife under the powerful umbrella, filled with loves and care of the Most High, the only true God and Loving Father in heaven..

May all the glories and praises be unto the God and Father of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.. Amen!

[limjunus]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,15:36)

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 11 2013,10:07) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,19:46) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,10:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,12:55) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 09 2013,13:08) TO ALL: How we could listen to the voices (doctrines/ teaching) of the Lord ans Savior Jesus Christ, he is in heaven? Here is the Scriptural evidences: 3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves. 16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. 14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?  15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 17Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.  Luke 10:3, 16 / Romans 10:14-15, 17 NIV. Seek the preacher/s sent (messenger/angel) by God, ask their divine credential to prove the veracity and the authenticity of their divine credential. There should speak in accordance with the Scriptural law and the testimony. Isaiah 8:20 KJV. LMJ are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks Dear Terraricca, Quote are you part of the seeds that felt among the rocks . Seed is the words of God.  The words of God, must teach by the messenger sent by God, so faith comes by hearing the words of God.  (Romans 10:14-15, 17). To whom did you heard the words of God? he must be sent by God. How to know that the preacher is the true messenger of God, to preach his words? By Biblical prophecies intended for him before he was born. lmj you can not even see ;your actions are all about to establish a man in authority ,while all the apostles written testimony is about the truth spoken by Christ the son of God , you are as fake as it could be ;God does with his written word what he wants , look what he did with the greedy people he use them to print his written word, and in many languages ,and paid them well   Dear Terraricca, Quote you are as fake as it could be ;God does with his written word what he wants , Yes, and you could not set aside the written one about who shall be the preacher of the words of God, … he must be sent or messenger of God, with the support of the Biblical law and testimony as his divine credentials. Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20  KJV. . Terraricca, do not go against the written words of God, observe it and be with it. … either you like it or not, you must be heard the words of God, from a preacher sent by Him. Limj I have more knowledge than you have ,and it as been given to me through the scriptures ,because I believe the scriptures but you do not you believe in men ,you are fake and talk like a deceiver ,

Dear Terraricca,

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I have more knowledge than you have ,and it as been given to me through the scriptures ,because I believe the scriptures but you do not. you believe in men ,you are fake and talk like a deceiver ,

I did not said that I am more knowledgeable than you. What I have said or posting is not my own knowledge. It is the foreknowledge of God, written in the Sacred Scriptures (Bible) and has been taught to me by the true preacher/s sent by God. (Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 KJV)

“You have said the your knowledge has been given to you through the Scriptures …. by your own reading into it or by someone preaching you?.

By and through personal reading and understanding with the Scriptures, you could not able to attain the truth of God.

Here is the proof: always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. . II Cor. 3:7

Because there were not belong to the insiders. Here is another Biblical proof: “You have been given the secret of the Kingdom of God,” Jesus answered. “But the others, who are on the outside, hear all things by means of parables,
. Mark 4:11 TEV/ KJV.

You had post also that you are believing with the Holy Scriptures, but only by mouth and not by the action of your heart and soul.

You are the one really disrespecting and ignoring the written words of God. It was written 2000 years ago, … that only the true preacher/s sent by God, could be able to teach the genuine gospel of Christ into the people. (Romans 10:14-15, 17) … but you continue in repulsing and despising the holy messages of God.

If you really after the Scriptures, show me here the verses that only through and by reading the scriptures anybody could and would attain the knowledge of the truth of God?

Please, Terraricca, do not accuse me as a false preacher or a deceiver without proving it in the light of the verses from the Bible. Your action and conclusion about me is a true violation of the rules of law of God, … your action is out professional code of ethics.

May the Lord God, forgive you for not knowing what have done! Amen.

[Proclaimer]

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,21:38)

It is true not because you have post it but because it was written and it is Scriptural. But you have forgotten that the 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized. Read the Acts. 20:29-30 and the 1 Timothy 4:1-4 KJV.. But Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior, foretold that his 1st century church shall not remained in a vault, she will re-emerging, shall be re-appear from hiding; “in the future to come (1914) there will be one flock and one shepherd” John 10:16 ERV..

Cobblers. Anyone can say anything to justify anything.
Scripture is what I want to hear.

Jesus said that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church and the scripture you use as a proof verse is actually saying that some will depart the faith because of seducing spirits.

[terraricca]

lmj

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Because there were not belong to the insiders. Here is another Biblical proof: “You have been given the secret of the Kingdom of God,” Jesus answered. “But the others, who are on the outside, hear all things by means of parables, . Mark 4:11 TEV/ KJV.

why did Jesus do that

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,17:39)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,17:40) Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 09 2013,16:55) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,15:01) Hi limjunus, God's Kingdom isn't limited to those in your religious organization either. God bless Ed J Dear Ed j, Quote Hi limjunus, God's Kingdom isn't limited to those in your religious organization either. Do not just post what is in your mind, you must back-up it by Scriptural evidences.   Like what I had did with all of my Bible commentaries. I am not the one plainly saying that the salvation of our souls could only be attained or obtainable for being the part of the church of Christ, the mystical body of Christ here on earth. Through the sacrificial death of the church's head (Christ Jesus) the sins of the disciples (believers of Christ) has been paid (washed away) and the followers of Christ, has been freed from the bondage of sins; free from the condemnation and have been brought back to serve and worship the only true  and the living God, the Father in heaven. Scriptural evidence shall be presented to convince you to lay down your righteous decision with the subject case/s. Exhibit A: evidence. Ephessians 5:23-32 Scriptural evidences has been presented to make the case/ argument be sufficiently realistic and free from any reasonable doubt. Hi limjunus, Please enlarge the part in Eph 5:23-33 where 'YOU BELIEVE' is evidence to support your assertion?      …because I certainly don't see it?   Eph 5:23-33 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. Thank you in advance. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Dear ED J, Quote Please enlarge the part in Eph 5:23-33 where 'YOU BELIEVE' is evidence to support your assertion?      …because I certainly don't see it?   23For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body. 24And so wives must submit themselves completely to their husbands just as the church submits itself to Christ. 25Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave his life for it. verses 23-25: Christ Jesus has authority over the church and he is the savior of the church and the church must submitted to Christ, because he died for her; Christ hath purchased her from the bondage of sins. 26He did this to dedicate the church to God by his word, after making it clean by washing it in water, 27in order to present the church to himself in all its beauty–pure and faultless, without spot or wrinkle or any other imperfection. . verses 26-27: Christ did the offering of his life as the sacrificing lambs to clean the church (chosen people called by God, into the church) from her sins and to be presented to himself pure and faultless, without spot or wrinkle or any other imperfection before God. (in short, to be considered by God as holy people through the redemption done by the Messiah). 8Men ought to love their wives just as they love their own bodies. A man who loves his wife loves himself. 29(No one ever hates his own body. Instead, he feeds it and takes care of it, just as Christ does the church; 30for we are members of his body.). verses 28-30: the church is counted as the body of Christ, he feed and take care the church because she is belong to Christ as his body and hath considered her as his wife; for being Christ's wife, he loves her very much. (in short: Christ is responsible to his own body; own church and his own wife). The chosen people of God, inside the church of Christ, counted as the members or part of his body as a whole. 31As the scripture says, “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and unite with his wife, and the two will become one.” 32There is a deep secret truth revealed in this scripture, which I understand as applying to Christ and the church. . verses 31-32: Christ and the church is counted by God, as husband and wife. There no longer two but one (one new man Eph. 2:15-17 KJV) before God. The wall or partition (eniquities/sins of men is the cause of war between God and men) has been destroyed through the sacrifice death of the church's head (Christ) and the two (God and men) have been reconciled (peace treaty). At the end of time, Christ and his wife (church/body) shall be together and be happy forever and ever. 6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. . (Matthew 19:6 KJV) We could not just take the head (Christ) and leave the church, his body as what the other christian groups stand for. WE must be part of his church or his body and united (members in particular 1 Cor. 12:27 KJV) with the head (Christ).   As what the Lord God, proclaimed long ago “Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man pu t asunder. . Glory be to the Almighty God, the Father of Jesus Christ.

Hi limjunus,

None of those verses say:
that salvation of our souls could only be attained
or obtainable for being the part of your religious institution.

What specifically makes you believe that it does?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,18:16)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,16:53) Hi limjunus, “he that is not against us is on our part” has a similar meaning to… (yet the opposite of) “He that is not with me is against me” Meaning there is no place of neutrality with God. Hope this answered your question? God bless Ed J Dear Ed J, You are right, there is no neutrality with God. Goat is in the left side for hell and the sheep is in the right side for the Paradise. There are two children in this world. The children of God in the right side and the children of satan in the left side. Those people in favor of Christ, listen to his voices (words) and do it were counted as the children of God. Those people against Christ, are not listening to his voice (words). He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. (John 8:47 KJV) The words of Christ is the doctrine of God, his Father. Praises and glories to the Almighty God, the Father and God of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Hi limjunus,

Great! Now since I'm not against you,
what does that tell you about me then?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,18:49)

…and the gospel of Christ could be heard only from the preacher sent by God.

Hi limjunus,

Where does it say that?
Scripture and verse please?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,19:05)

Only the Church Of Christ – 1914

Hi limjunus, you're funny.

The “Church of Christ” was established in 33 AD!      …not in 1914?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,08:26)

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,19:05) Only the Church Of Christ – 1914 Hi limjunus, you're funny. The “Church of Christ” was established in 33 AD!      …not in 1914? God bless Ed J

Hi limjunus,

Is the thousand year reign of your organization almost up then?      … (2014 – 1914 = 1000)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 11 2013,15:07)

Dear Terraricca, Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20  KJV. .

Hi limjunus,

You keep pointing to those verses,
but neither of them suggest what YOU say they do?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[limjunus]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,08:06)

lmj Quote Because there were not belong to the insiders.  Here is another Biblical proof: “You have been given the secret of the Kingdom of God,” Jesus answered. “But the others, who are on the outside, hear all things by means of parables, . Mark 4:11 TEV/ KJV. why did Jesus do that

Dear Terraricca,

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why did Jesus do that

Answers from our Lord Jesus: John 8:26 / 12:50 21st KJV.

26I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him.”
And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

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Commanded to him by His Father, the only true and merciful God.

[Ed J]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,08:06) lmj Quote Because there were not belong to the insiders.  Here is another Biblical proof: “You have been given the secret of the Kingdom of God,” Jesus answered. “But the others, who are on the outside, hear all things by means of parables, . Mark 4:11 TEV/ KJV. why did Jesus do that Dear Terraricca, Quote why did Jesus do that Answers from our Lord Jesus: John 8:26 /  12:50 21st KJV. 26I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him.” And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.” . Commanded to him by His Father, the only true and merciful God.

Hi limjunus,

According to John 18:19-20: Jesus had
NO SECRETS inside or OUTSIDE of his group.

The high priest then asked Jesus of his disciples, and of his doctrine.
Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue,
and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; AND in secret have I said nothing.”  (John 18:19-20)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[limjunus]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 11 2013,17:23)

Quote (limjunus @ Jan. 10 2013,21:38) It is true not because you have post it but because it was written and it is Scriptural. But you have forgotten that the 1st century church of Christ has been apostatized.  Read the Acts. 20:29-30 and the 1 Timothy 4:1-4 KJV.. But Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior, foretold that his 1st century church shall not remained in a vault, she will re-emerging, shall be re-appear from hiding; “in the future to come (1914) there will be one flock and one shepherd”  John 10:16 ERV.. Cobblers. Anyone can say anything to justify anything. Scripture is what I want to hear. Jesus said that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church and the scripture you use as a proof verse is actually saying that some will depart the faith because of seducing spirits.

Dear t8,

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Cobblers. Anyone can say anything to justify anything. Scripture is what I want to hear. Jesus said that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church and the scripture you use as a proof verse is actually saying that some will depart the faith because of seducing spirits.

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Let us make a very deep study for what the Holy Scriptures messages with verse 16:18 of the book of Matthew:

“the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church “.

The messages does not said that the church shall not be “apostatized”. The word “hell would not prevail against her” meant for “the believers of Christ, died as the part of his church, shall not be remained forever in the tomb and the lake of fire (hell) has nothing to do with them.

Let us go into the messages of Apostles Paul in verses 2:29-30 with the Book of Acts. New Living Translation.

I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you after I leave, not sparing the flock. 30 Even some men from your own group will rise up and distort the truth in order to draw a following..

The very important information has been given to us a long time ago (2,000 years) by the apostle and we must not just take it for granted, because it is the event of the great apostasy of the 1st century church of Christ, begins.

We should take note the event one by one after another.

1.) When the apostles passed away, 2.) false teachers shall come like vicious wolves (figuratively the successors are wilds, deceitful and harmful), 3.) not sparing the flock. (figuratively: eliminating/killing the church), 4.) Even some men from your own group will rise up (promoted in the higher ranks so that they can have the says to church) 5.) and distort the truth in order to draw a following. (sayings to have changes with the original doctrines of Christ from the truth to lies and the remaining some cowards disciples of Christ and the newly incoming members to be shall be lead by them in obeying the man-made doctrines. The events is the complete information and gradually processing of the great apostasy if the 1st century church of Christ is concern.

What else the supporting verses from the Bible, to prove and to be justified the verses 20:29-30 of Apostle Paul epistles?

Here is another verses to prove that there was a great apostasy: II-Thessalonians 2:1-8 Messages version.

1-3 Now, friends, read these next words carefully. Slow down and don’t go jumping to conclusions regarding the day when our Master, Jesus Christ, will come back and we assemble to welcome him. Don’t let anyone shake you up or get you excited over some breathless report or rumored letter from me that the day of the Master’s arrival has come and gone. Don’t fall for any line like that.

3-5 Before that day comes, a couple of things have to happen. First, the Apostasy. Second, the debut of the Anarchist, a real dog of Satan. He’ll defy and then take over every so-called god or altar. Having cleared away the opposition, he’ll then set himself up in God’s Temple as “God Almighty.” Don’t you remember me going over all this in detail when I was with you? Are your memories that short?

6-8 You’ll also remember that I told you the Anarchist is being held back until just the right time. That doesn’t mean that the spirit of anarchy is not now at work. It is, secretly and underground. But the time will come when the Anarchist will no longer be held back, but will be let loose. But don’t worry. The Master Jesus will be right on his heels and blow him away. The Master appears and—puff!—the Anarchist is out of there..

The messages of “You’ll also remember that I told you the Anarchist is being held back until just the right time. That doesn’t mean that the spirit of anarchy is not now at work. It is, secretly and underground. But the time will come when the Anarchist will no longer be held back, but will be let loose.. is the corresponding with the Acts 20:28-30)

Apostasy means: Falling away from God; to be falling away from God, people should turning their back from God, by not obeying the original doctrines; instead follow and observe the newly invented (man-made) doctrines; the doctrines of the devil.

Let us go a little further to find out the fulfillment of the said “apostasy”. Is there a church today, claiming that she is the “sole history time-link with the 1st century church of Christ”

Here is another verses to find out which church is sponsoring the devil's doctrines”? 1 Timothy 4:1-3 21st KJV)

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils,
2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron,
3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth..

The “HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC ROMAN CHURCH” is claiming that she is the continuation of the 1st century church of Christ. Check the list of their man-made doctrines approved by their so called Roman Catholic Councils, including the doctrines (dogma) that the Lord Jesus is truly God, has been approved in the Council of Nicea 325 A.D. and then after 56 years, then have been finally approved that the Holy Spirit is also truly God, on 381 A.D. in the Council of Constantinople.

Forbidding to marry and to abstain from eating meat are the two doctrines among so many of the demons man-made doctrines. (1.) The Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church is forbidding their Priesthoods to get marry to any woman even with the same faith; under the Canon Law of Celibacy; (2.) Prohibiting their members not to eat meat or food made of meat during all Friday of the year and specially during the Holy weeks (Holy Thursday and Holy Friday).

References: In his book, the faith of our fathers, James cardinal gibbons states that:

“prohibiting priests to marry” is both discipline and a law upheld by the catholic church (p.401).
And…
“By the law of abstinence the church forbids us to eat either meat or soups or gravies made from meat, on all Friday’s in the year.” (a handbook of t
he catholic faith, p. 424)

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I am praying that the above information would be a very helpful to you out there.

The remaining questions shall be answered later.

Till then and see you next time.

[Ed J]

Hi limjunus,

Eating less meat is good for you.
(eating instead more fruits and vegetables)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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