THE MESSENGERS OF GOD

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  • #352545
    limjunus
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    That's for now and till then.

    Glory be to the merciful God, through the anme of His begotten Son, Christ Jesus. Amen.

    #352546
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:21)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,18:40)
    Hi linjunus,

    It's nice to see you quoting “The Bible”!
    Are you going to continue play 'musical bible
    translations
    ' when you disagree with God's word??

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    It is out of the topic. Nut can you elaborate what do you mean “Are you going to continue play 'musical bible
    translations
    ' when you disagree with God's word???


    Hi linjunus,

    (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    I will not go to the link you have provided. I have experience going with your link noted. My computer has been “HONKED”.

    Better to specify it here.

    #352547
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:24)
    Dear Ed j,

    I will not argue with anymore about the Mark 9:38. You have your own understanding about it without the help the true preachers sent by God.

    I just want you to emphasize the messages written in 1 Cor. 5:13 Living Bible.

    God alone is the Judge of those on the outside. But you yourselves must deal with this man and put him out of your church.

    If you are not one among the insiders [of the church of Christ], meaning your one among the outsiders and you could not escape to the judgement of God.


    Hi linjunus,

    “But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away
    from among yourselves that wicked person.” (1 Cor 5:13)
    Are you falsely accusing me of being a wicked person?           <– please answer
    YOU posting corrupt text means NOTHING to me.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352548
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31)
    Dear Ed J,

    I have experience going with your link noted. My computer has been “HONKED”.


    ?

    #352549
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31)
    Dear Ed J.

    Better to specify it here.


    The “Textus Receptus” is the “Authorized Greek Scriptures”!

    The “Masoretic Text” is the “Authorized Hebrew Scriptures”!

    The “AKJV Bible” is the “Authorized English Scriptures”!

    #352550
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:05)
    TO ALL

    Those people who really seeking the salvation of Christ Jesus, must be one among the members of the church or body of Christ in particulars.(No schism).

    20. But now “INDEED THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS, YET ONE BODY”.

    There is one church or body of Christ, the members are many and having different functions.


    you do not belong to the body of Christ

    is manalo a preacher of GOD??

    why did he preach?

    #352551
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:17)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:06)
    Hi linjunus,

    The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    What do you mean “The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.?

    Could please, specify it?


    Hi linjunus,

    I have been, but you need ears to hear.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    The Sacred Scriptures is very clear in telling us that “outside the church of Christ, there is judgement, but if you were in Christ, there no of any judgement.

    Our sins has been paid by Christ Jesus with his life. Eph. 5:23-32

    #352552
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:42)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:17)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:06)
    Hi linjunus,

    The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    What do you mean “The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.?

    Could please, specify it?


    Hi linjunus,

    I have been, but you need ears to hear.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    The Sacred Scriptures is very clear in telling us that “outside the church of Christ, there is judgement, but if you were in Christ, there no of any judgement.

    Our sins has been paid by Christ Jesus with his life. Eph. 5:23-32


    Hi linjunus,

    What “specifically” are YOU referring to in Eph. 5:23-32?

    Eph. 5:23-32:
    23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.
    24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
    25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
    26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
    27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
    28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
    29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
    30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
    31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
    32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352553
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,18:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,00:30)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,00:17)
    Hi linjunus,

    Claim #1: Iglesia ni Cristo is the only true Church of Christ (C0C).

    Claim #2: There is no salvation outside the Iglesia ni Cristo (C0C).

    Unfortunately, YOU have shown 'no evidence' for either of these claims.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear ED J,

    The “evidences” has been posted many times and you have failed to understand it, because you are not belong to the “so called “insiders”,… you are belong to the outsiders.


    Hi linjunus, could you please tell me your take is on this verse…

    (I have emboldened the specific part I want you to address)
    “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    And God hath set some in the church” (1Cor.12:27-28)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi linjunus,

    1Cor.12:28 provides YOU with evidence against  Claim #2.    

    …and so does my comparing you to Mark 9:38.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352554
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:33)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:24)
    Dear Ed j,

    I will not argue with anymore about the Mark 9:38. You have your own understanding about it without the help the true preachers sent by God.

    I just want you to emphasize the messages written in 1 Cor. 5:13 Living Bible.

    God alone is the Judge of those on the outside. But you yourselves must deal with this man and put him out of your church.

    If you are not one among the insiders [of the church of Christ], meaning your one among the outsiders and you could not escape to the judgement of God.


    Hi linjunus,

    “But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away
    from among yourselves that wicked person.” (1 Cor 5:13)
    Are you falsely accusing me of being a wicked person?           <– please answer
    YOU posting corrupt text means NOTHING to me.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    I did not said you are a corrupt person. What the Sacred Scriptures said is, “..those people outside the church of Christ shall be judged by God…”

    #352555
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:36)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31)
    Dear Ed J.

    Better to specify it here.


    The “Textus Receptus” is the “Authorized Greek Scriptures”!

    The “Masoretic Text” is the “Authorized Hebrew Scriptures”!

    The “AKJV Bible” is the “Authorized English Scriptures”!


    Dear Ed J,

    The Bible said, the authorized preachers of the words of God, is the authentic preachers sent by Him and not the Books.

    Books are useless without the authorized preachers sent and inspired by the merciful and only true God, the Father of Christ Jesus.

    #352556
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:48)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:42)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:17)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:06)
    Hi linjunus,

    The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    What do you mean “The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.?

    Could please, specify it?


    Hi linjunus,

    I have been, but you need ears to hear.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    The Sacred Scriptures is very clear in telling us that “outside the church of Christ, there is judgement, but if you were in Christ, there no of any judgement.

    Our sins has been paid by Christ Jesus with his life. Eph. 5:23-32


    Hi linjunus,

    What “specifically” are YOU referring to in Eph. 5:23-32?

    Eph. 5:23-32:
    23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.
    24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
    25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
    26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
    27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
    28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
    29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
    30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
    31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
    32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    The verses are self explanatory, if the merciful God, allowing you to understand it through the teaching of the preachers really sent by Him.

    #352557
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:35)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31)
    Dear Ed J,

    I have experience going with your link noted. My computer has been “HONKED”.


    ?


    Dear Ed J,

    When I clicked the “LINK” you have posted. My computer has been penetrated by Virus by Trojan”

    #352558
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 28 2012,16:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:33)

    Are you falsely accusing me of being a wicked person?         


    Dear Ed J,

    I did not said you are a corrupt person.  


    Hi linjunus,

    Thanks for the clarification!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352559
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 28 2012,16:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:36)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31)
    Dear Ed J.

    Better to specify it here.


    The “Textus Receptus” is the “Authorized Greek Scriptures”!

    The “Masoretic Text” is the “Authorized Hebrew Scriptures”!

    The “AKJV Bible” is the “Authorized English Scriptures”!


    Dear Ed J,

    The Bible said, the authorized preachers of the words of God, is the authentic preachers sent by Him and not the Books.


    Hi linjunus,

    Where does the  Iglesia ni Cristo  get their information from, if not from “The Bible”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352560
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 28 2012,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:35)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31)
    Dear Ed J,

    I have experience going with your link noted. My computer has been “HONKED”.


    ?


    Dear Ed J,

    When I clicked the “LINK” you have posted. My computer has been penetrated by Virus by Trojan”


    Sor.  :(      …it was certainly not my doing.

    Most of the links I post are to other threads on this site, I don't think you need worry about those.

    #352561
    jammin
    Participant

    limjunus,

    you are still not answering my questions

    #352562
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2012,17:30)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 28 2012,16:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:36)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:31)
    Dear Ed J.

    Better to specify it here.


    The “Textus Receptus” is the “Authorized Greek Scriptures”!

    The “Masoretic Text” is the “Authorized Hebrew Scriptures”!

    The “AKJV Bible” is the “Authorized English Scriptures”!


    Dear Ed J,

    The Bible said, the authorized preachers of the words of God, is the authentic preachers sent by Him and not the Books.


    Hi linjunus,

    Where does the  Iglesia ni Cristo  get their information from, if not from “The Bible”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear ED J,

    As we have aware, there are plenty of books (Bible versions) made by men. Most of the Christian religious groups have made their own versions; translating with their own motives to suit their own doctrines; without knowing that there were used by the number one enemy of God.

    God, know's how to counter Satan's deeds; by making His own decrees; one of the decree of God is to set the guideline; how to distinguish the true preachers and the false preachers;Those so called preachers, spoke not according to the testimony and the law are not the true preachers of the words of God. (Isaiah 8:20); Only the preacher sent by God, can preach the gospel of Christ Jesus; (Romans 10:14-5, 17 NKJV);

    God knows where in many Bible translation/ versions can be found His real words; God, shall guide the true preachers in teaching the true messages of God.

    The original Sacred Scriptures and all the Bible versions would be useless without the teaching and explanation by the preacher sent by God. Here is the testimony of the Sacred Scriptures:

    [/B]29. Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

    30. And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

    31. And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

    32. The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

    33. In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

    35. Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

    36. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

    37. And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    38. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
    .

    Philipp is one among the true preachers sent by God, is the one guided and explained the messages written in the Holy Scriptures to a person has been called by God.

    Therefore, the Scared Scriptures or the Bibles in many versions, corrupted or not corrupted shall be useless without the true preacher sent by God.

    Glory be to the merciful God, forever and ever.

    #352563
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Nov. 29 2012,19:42)
    limjunus,

    you are still not answering my questions


    Dear Ed J,

    Do you mean the answer for no. 1, question?

    There are many churches in this world and they hath been called after the name of Christ Jesus, right?

    How do we recognized the true church of Christ among so many churches of Christ?

    The requirements to be qualified as the true church of Christ:

    a.) The church must be supported by the prophesies written in the Sacred Scriptures.

    b.) The church shall be having the true preacher/s sent by God

    c.) The church doctrines shall not beyond what it was written and must be based solely with the Holy Scriptures

    d.) The church growth and triumphs could not be done by the power and wisdom of the great men of this world but through the power and wisdom by God, alone through Christ Jesus.

    e.) The church shall be called after the name of Christ Jesus

    f.) The church must be united in one spirit (doctrines), unique and opposite with the other so called churches of Christ, established and made only by men; the church members are with one body (only one organization;members in particular) under one administration;

    g.) The church of Christ 33-1914 A.D. is the only Christian church having the doctrine that the only true God, is the Father; Christ Jesus, is the son of God and his state of being is “human” but not just a mere human being; he is the only human being without even a single sin (a holy man), he is the only human being made by God, both Lord and Savior. Christ Jesus is not the only true God, and he is not truly God.

    Now, tell me Ed J, which one among so many called churches of Christ scattered around the world has the same doctrines as with us (Church of Christ 33-1914 A.D.)?

    May all the glories goes into the merciful God and Father of our Lord Christ Jesus.

    Amen.

    #352564
    limjunus
    Participant

    To all concern:

    That's it for now and until then. Thanks and glory be to the Father and God of our Lord Christ Jesus.

    Amen.

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