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    Wakeup
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    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 22 2012,20:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 21 2012,05:04)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47)
    TO ALL:

    Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
    1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    Revelation 8:1 KJV
    1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    II Peter 3:8 KJV
    8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.


    Limjunus.

    I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.

    The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
    The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
    (rev.14:1).


    Dear Wakeup,

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.

    The church of Christ is the new “Israel”   …. the new nation of God.


    LImjunus.

    The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.

    Revelation 7:1   And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

     Revelation 7:2   And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,

     Revelation 7:3   Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.

     Revelation 7:4   And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
    For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Post by Wakeup: “THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel. For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits of the good news hath preached by Jesus on the 1st century, the total numbers is 144,000 Jews.  the second group in addition to the 1st century church of Christ are the Gentiles, apostle Paul is the leading evangelist to their nations.

    The third group is the Gentiles from the far east to the far west and spreading it to the whole world in our times and not in the time of the Apostles and Christ Jesus (33 A.D.)

    One of the proof of the fulfillment of that prophesies (Rev 7:1-3 ? Isa. 43:5-7, 10 / Isa. 46:11-13)  is, the news in Yahoo Finance dated 22 November 2012.

    Glory be to the merciful God and Father of our Lord and Sa vior Jesus Christ.   Amen


    Limjunu.

    Not correct.

    The first will be last and the last will be first.
    The gentiles 144000 spiritual jews will be first.
    To provoke the jews to jealousy.

    wakeup.

    #352526
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 22 2012,19:45)

    Quote (jammin @ Nov. 22 2012,19:30)
    limjunus,

    why did manalo preach?


    Dear Jammin,

    You must read it back. From the beginning of this thread to the last, then you will satisfied with the answer to your question.


    is manalo a preacher of GOD?

    why did he preach?

    #352527
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,02:37)

    Quote
    Church of Christ 1914 meant for the time of the restoration of the true Church Of Christ

    Where can I find more information about this?  Is there a website that explains it?

    You know limjunis, there is another group that says the last days began in 1914.


    Dear David,

    Yes. I have learned a certain group. when they expected end of the world did not happened, they concluded it as the last day of the world began on 1914. … but many of their members self detach fro their group because the they expecting the real end of the earth.

    Read back some of the my posts here, specially the previous posts concerning the Rev. 7:1-3 and the “About half an hour”.

    #352528
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2012,09:44)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 22 2012,20:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 21 2012,05:04)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47)
    TO ALL:

    Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
    1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    Revelation 8:1 KJV
    1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    II Peter 3:8 KJV
    8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.


    Limjunus.

    I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.

    The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
    The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
    (rev.14:1).


    Dear Wakeup,

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.

    The church of Christ is the new “Israel”   …. the new nation of God.


    LImjunus.

    The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.

    Revelation 7:1   And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

     Revelation 7:2   And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,

     Revelation 7:3   Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.

     Revelation 7:4   And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
    For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Post by Wakeup: “THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel. For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits of the good news hath preached by Jesus on the 1st century, the total numbers is 144,000 Jews.  the second group in addition to the 1st century church of Christ are the Gentiles, apostle Paul is the leading evangelist to their nations.

    The third group is the Gentiles from the far east to the far west and spreading it to the whole world in our times and not in the time of the Apostles and Christ Jesus (33 A.D.)

    One of the proof of the fulfillment of that prophesies (Rev 7:1-3 ? Isa. 43:5-7, 10 / Isa. 46:11-13)  is, the news in Yahoo Finance dated 22 November 2012.

    Glory be to the merciful God and Father of our Lord and Sa vior Jesus Christ.   Amen


    Limjunu.

    Not correct.

    The first will be last and the last will be first.
    The gentiles 144000 spiritual jews will be first.
    To provoke the jews to jealousy.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Do not say it is not correct. You have no right to say it or to concluded it, except you can prove that your preachers are the true preachers sent by God.

    “The first will be last and the last will be first.”

    Do not connect that phrases to 144,000. The Bible very clear which is the first “race” shall be the first fruit of Christ and Apostles missionary works.

    The first will be last and the last will be first. could be applied to Christ. He is the first in the mind of God, before the creation of the world but only in these last days has been manifested. (1 Peter 1:20)

    #352529
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,00:17)
    Hi linjunus,

    Claim #1: Iglesia ni Cristo is the only true Church of Christ (C0C).

    Claim #2: There is no salvation outside the Iglesia ni Cristo (C0C).

    Unfortunately, YOU have shown 'no evidence' for either of these claims.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear ED J,

    The “evidences” has been posted many times and you have failed to understand it, because you are not belong to the “so called “insiders”,… you are belong to the outsiders.

    He replied, “You are permitted to understand the secret[a] of the Kingdom of God. But I use parables for everything I say to outsiders, 12 so that the Scriptures might be fulfilled:

    ‘When they see what I do,
    they will learn nothing.
    When they hear what I say,
    they will not understand.
    Otherwise, they will turn to me
    and be forgiven.’
    . Mark 4:11-12 NLT

    13God alone is the Judge of those on the outside. But you yourselves must deal with this man and put him out of your church.
    (1 Cor. 5:13 Living Bible)

    #352530
    limjunus
    Participant

    Dear Ed J,

    praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.

    Those people who were being saved, God added them to the church daily. Those members of the church that did not live in accordance with wills of God, need to be cast out from the church, so that they will be included to those to be judged by God.

    #352531
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,00:17)
    Hi linjunus,

    Claim #1: Iglesia ni Cristo is the only true Church of Christ (C0C).

    Claim #2: There is no salvation outside the Iglesia ni Cristo (C0C).

    Unfortunately, YOU have shown 'no evidence' for either of these claims.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear ED J,

    The “evidences” has been posted many times and you have failed to understand it, because you are not belong to the “so called “insiders”,… you are belong to the outsiders.


    Hi linjunus, could you please tell me your take is on this verse…

    (I have emboldened the specific part I want you to address)
    “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    And God hath set some in the church” (1Cor.12:27-28)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352532
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2012,09:44)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 22 2012,20:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 21 2012,05:04)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47)
    TO ALL:

    Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
    1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    Revelation 8:1 KJV
    1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    II Peter 3:8 KJV
    8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.


    Limjunus.

    I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.

    The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
    The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
    (rev.14:1).


    Dear Wakeup,

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.

    The church of Christ is the new “Israel”   …. the new nation of God.


    LImjunus.

    The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.

    Revelation 7:1   And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

     Revelation 7:2   And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,

     Revelation 7:3   Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.

     Revelation 7:4   And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
    For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Post by Wakeup: “THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel. For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits of the good news hath preached by Jesus on the 1st century, the total numbers is 144,000 Jews.  the second group in addition to the 1st century church of Christ are the Gentiles, apostle Paul is the leading evangelist to their nations.

    The third group is the Gentiles from the far east to the far west and spreading it to the whole world in our times and not in the time of the Apostles and Christ Jesus (33 A.D.)

    One of the proof of the fulfillment of that prophesies (Rev 7:1-3 ? Isa. 43:5-7, 10 / Isa. 46:11-13)  is, the news in Yahoo Finance dated 22 November 2012.

    Glory be to the merciful God and Father of our Lord and Sa vior Jesus Christ.   Amen


    Limjunu.

    Not correct.

    The first will be last and the last will be first.
    The gentiles 144000 spiritual jews will be first.
    To provoke the jews to jealousy.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Do not say it is not correct. You have no right to say it or to concluded it, except you can prove that your preachers are the true preachers sent by God.

    “The first will be last and the last will be first.”

    Do not connect that phrases to 144,000.  The Bible very clear which is the first “race” shall be the first fruit of Christ and Apostles missionary works.

    The first will be last and the last will be first. could be applied to Christ. He is the first in the mind of God, before the creation of the world but only in these last days has been manifested.   (1 Peter 1:20)


    Limjunus.

    No one can come to the Father but by me.
    The 12 tribes also has to go through the son.
    and they will,but in the 1000yr reign.

    The 14400 are the true believers that follow the lamb whersoever he goeth. Them that are SEALED.

    John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did EAT of the LOAVES, and were FILLED.

    Those are the ones that goes to church just to fill their own BELLY. For the BLESSINGS, and BE PROSPEROUS IN LIFE.

    John 6:27 Labour not for the MEAT which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting LIFE, which the SON OF MAN SHALL *GIVE* unto you: for him hath GOD THE FATHER *SEALED*.

    Wakeup.

    #352533
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2012,00:57)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2012,09:44)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 22 2012,20:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 21 2012,05:04)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47)
    TO ALL:

    Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
    1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    Revelation 8:1 KJV
    1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    II Peter 3:8 KJV
    8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.


    Limjunus.

    I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.

    The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
    The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
    (rev.14:1).


    Dear Wakeup,

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.

    The church of Christ is the new “Israel”   …. the new nation of God.


    LImjunus.

    The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.

    Revelation 7:1   And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

     Revelation 7:2   And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,

     Revelation 7:3   Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.

     Revelation 7:4   And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
    For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Post by Wakeup: “THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel. For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits of the good news hath preached by Jesus on the 1st century, the total numbers is 144,000 Jews.  the second group in addition to the 1st century church of Christ are the Gentiles, apostle Paul is the leading evangelist to their nations.

    The third group is the Gentiles from the far east to the far west and spreading it to the whole world in our times and not in the time of the Apostles and Christ Jesus (33 A.D.)

    One of the proof of the fulfillment of that prophesies (Rev 7:1-3 ? Isa. 43:5-7, 10 / Isa. 46:11-13)  is, the news in Yahoo Finance dated 22 November 2012.

    Glory be to the merciful God and Father of our Lord and Sa vior Jesus Christ.   Amen


    Limjunu.

    Not correct.

    The first will be last and the last will be first.
    The gentiles 144000 spiritual jews will be first.
    To provoke the jews to jealousy.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Do not say it is not correct. You have no right to say it or to concluded it, except you can prove that your preachers are the true preachers sent by God.

    “The first will be last and the last will be first.”

    Do not connect that phrases to 144,000.  The Bible very clear which is the first “race” shall be the first fruit of Christ and Apostles missionary works.

    The first will be last and the last will be first. could be applied to Christ. He is the first in the mind of God, before the creation of the world but only in these last days has been manifested.   (1 Peter 1:20)


    Limjunus.

    No one can come to the Father but by me.
    The 12 tribes also has to go through the son.
    and they will,but in the 1000yr reign.

    The 14400 are the true believers that follow the lamb whersoever he goeth. Them that are SEALED.

    John 6:26   Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did EAT of the LOAVES, and were FILLED.

    Those are the ones that goes to church just to fill their own BELLY. For the BLESSINGS, and BE PROSPEROUS IN LIFE.

     John 6:27   Labour not for the MEAT which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting LIFE, which the SON OF MAN SHALL *GIVE* unto you: for him hath GOD THE FATHER *SEALED*.

    Wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    The kingdom of God, was likened to a fish net. Many fishes has been caught but the fisherman select the good fishes and throw out back the bad fishes.

    Many people has been called inside the church of Christ, but not all are true believers, some are false brethren.

    Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.. ( Matthew 13:47-48 KJV)

    In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among fal
    se brethren;
    (2-Cor. 11:26 KJV)

    #352534
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2012,00:57)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2012,09:44)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 22 2012,20:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 21 2012,05:04)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47)
    TO ALL:

    Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
    1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    Revelation 8:1 KJV
    1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    II Peter 3:8 KJV
    8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.


    Limjunus.

    I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.

    The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
    The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
    (rev.14:1).


    Dear Wakeup,

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.

    The church of Christ is the new “Israel”   …. the new nation of God.


    LImjunus.

    The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.

    Revelation 7:1   And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

     Revelation 7:2   And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,

     Revelation 7:3   Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.

     Revelation 7:4   And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
    For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Post by Wakeup: “THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel. For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.

    The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits of the good news hath preached by Jesus on the 1st century, the total numbers is 144,000 Jews.  the second group in addition to the 1st century church of Christ are the Gentiles, apostle Paul is the leading evangelist to their nations.

    The third group is the Gentiles from the far east to the far west and spreading it to the whole world in our times and not in the time of the Apostles and Christ Jesus (33 A.D.)

    One of the proof of the fulfillment of that prophesies (Rev 7:1-3 ? Isa. 43:5-7, 10 / Isa. 46:11-13)  is, the news in Yahoo Finance dated 22 November 2012.

    Glory be to the merciful God and Father of our Lord and Sa vior Jesus Christ.   Amen


    Limjunu.

    Not correct.

    The first will be last and the last will be first.
    The gentiles 144000 spiritual jews will be first.
    To provoke the jews to jealousy.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    Do not say it is not correct. You have no right to say it or to concluded it, except you can prove that your preachers are the true preachers sent by God.

    “The first will be last and the last will be first.”

    Do not connect that phrases to 144,000.  The Bible very clear which is the first “race” shall be the first fruit of Christ and Apostles missionary works.

    The first will be last and the last will be first. could be applied to Christ. He is the first in the mind of God, before the creation of the world but only in these last days has been manifested.   (1 Peter 1:20)


    Limjunus.

    No one can come to the Father but by me.
    The 12 tribes also has to go through the son.
    and they will,but in the 1000yr reign.

    The 14400 are the true believers that follow the lamb whersoever he goeth. Them that are SEALED.

    John 6:26   Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did EAT of the LOAVES, and were FILLED.

    Those are the ones that goes to church just to fill their own BELLY. For the BLESSINGS, and BE PROSPEROUS IN LIFE.

     John 6:27   Labour not for the MEAT which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting LIFE, which the SON OF MAN SHALL *GIVE* unto you: for him hath GOD THE FATHER *SEALED*.

    Wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    The church of Christ is the true kingdom of God here on earth, but some members are false brethren. They just joining with their own secret agenda and not in pursuing to obey the law of God.

    #352535
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,18:33)
    Dear Wakeup,

    The kingdom of God, was likened to a fish net. Many fishes has been caught but the fisherman select the good fishes and throw out back the bad fishes.

    Many people has been called inside the church of Christ, but not all are true believers, some are false brethren.

    Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.. ( Matthew 13:47-48 KJV)

    In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
    (2-Cor. 11:26 KJV)


    Hi linjunus,

    It's nice to see you quoting “The Bible”!
    Are you going to continue play 'musical bible
    translations
    ' when you disagree with God's word??

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352536
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,00:30)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,00:17)
    Hi linjunus,

    Claim #1: Iglesia ni Cristo is the only true Church of Christ (C0C).

    Claim #2: There is no salvation outside the Iglesia ni Cristo (C0C).

    Unfortunately, YOU have shown 'no evidence' for either of these claims.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear ED J,

    The “evidences” has been posted many times and you have failed to understand it, because you are not belong to the “so called “insiders”,… you are belong to the outsiders.


    Hi linjunus, could you please tell me your take is on this verse…

    (I have emboldened the specific part I want you to address)
    “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    And God hath set some in the church” (1Cor.12:27-28)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    27. Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 28. And God hath “SET SOME” in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? (1 Cor. 12:27-29 KJV)

    “set some” MEANT FIR DIFFERENT POSITIONS IN ONE ORGANIZATION.

    The body or church of Christ is only one, is like one body but many parts and different functions; WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE WHOLE ONE BODY.

    4For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith;.

    12. For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 14. For in fact the body is not one member but many. 15. If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 16. And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 17. If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? 18. But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. 19. And if they were all one member, where would the body be? 20. But now “INDEED THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS, YET ONE BODY”. 21. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22. No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23. And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our un-presentable parts have greater modesty, 24. but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25. that there should be NO SCHISM in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it. 27. Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28. And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.

    20. But now “INDEED THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS, YET ONE BODY”.

    The members of the body (church) of Christ are many and God, set some to be in different positions inside the one body of Christ, the church.

    #352537
    limjunus
    Participant

    TO ALL

    Those people who really seeking the salvation of Christ Jesus, must be one among the members of the church or body of Christ in particulars.(No schism).

    20. But now “INDEED THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS, YET ONE BODY”.

    There is one church or body of Christ, the members are many and having different functions.

    #352538
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi linjunus,

    The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352539
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,18:40)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,18:33)
    Dear Wakeup,

    The kingdom of God, was likened to a fish net. Many fishes has been caught but the fisherman select the good fishes and throw out back the bad fishes.

    Many people has been called inside the church of Christ, but not all are true believers, some are false brethren.

    Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.. ( Matthew 13:47-48 KJV)

    In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
    (2-Cor. 11:26 KJV)


    Hi linjunus,

    It's nice to see you quoting “The Bible”!
    Are you going to continue play 'musical bible
    translations
    ' when you disagree with God's word??

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    It is out of the topic. Nut can you elaborate what do you mean “Are you going to continue play 'musical bible
    translations
    ' when you disagree with God's word???

    #352540
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:06)
    Hi linjunus,

    The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    What do you mean “The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.?

    Could please, specify it?

    #352541
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,18:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,00:30)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,00:17)
    Hi linjunus,

    Claim #1: Iglesia ni Cristo is the only true Church of Christ (C0C).

    Claim #2: There is no salvation outside the Iglesia ni Cristo (C0C).

    Unfortunately, YOU have shown 'no evidence' for either of these claims.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear ED J,

    The “evidences” has been posted many times and you have failed to understand it, because you are not belong to the “so called “insiders”,… you are belong to the outsiders.


    Hi linjunus, could you please tell me your take is on this verse…

    (I have emboldened the specific part I want you to address)
    “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    And God hath set some in the church” (1Cor.12:27-28)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi linjunus,

    1Cor.12:28 provides YOU with evidence against  Claim #2.    

    …and so does my comparing you to Mark 9:38.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352542
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:06)
    Hi linjunus,

    The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    What do you mean “The body of Christ extends “outside” of your religious institution.?

    Could please, specify it?


    Hi linjunus,

    I have been, but you need ears to hear.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352543
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,19:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,18:40)
    Hi linjunus,

    It's nice to see you quoting “The Bible”!
    Are you going to continue play 'musical bible
    translations
    ' when you disagree with God's word??

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear Ed J,

    It is out of the topic. Nut can you elaborate what do you mean “Are you going to continue play 'musical bible
    translations
    ' when you disagree with God's word???


    Hi linjunus,

    (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352544
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,19:16)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 26 2012,18:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,00:30)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 25 2012,23:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,00:17)
    Hi linjunus,

    Claim #1: Iglesia ni Cristo is the only true Church of Christ (C0C).

    Claim #2: There is no salvation outside the Iglesia ni Cristo (C0C).

    Unfortunately, YOU have shown 'no evidence' for either of these claims.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Dear ED J,

    The “evidences” has been posted many times and you have failed to understand it, because you are not belong to the “so called “insiders”,… you are belong to the outsiders.


    Hi linjunus, could you please tell me your take is on this verse…

    (I have emboldened the specific part I want you to address)
    “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    And God hath set some in the church” (1Cor.12:27-28)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi linjunus,

    1Cor.12:28 provides YOU with evidence against  Claim #2.    

    …and so does my comparing you to Mark 9:38.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed j,

    I will not argue with anymore about the Mark 9:38. You have your own understanding about it without the help the true preachers sent by God.

    I just want you to emphasize the messages written in 1 Cor. 5:13 Living Bible.

    God alone is the Judge of those on the outside. But you yourselves must deal with this man and put him out of your church.

    If you are not one among the insiders [of the church of Christ], meaning your one among the outsiders and you could not escape to the judgement of God.

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