THE MESSENGERS OF GOD

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,20:05)

Dear Ed J, Are you one of the insiders?

Hi linjunus,

You bet

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,19:42)

Dear Ed J, What do you think I am doing … sharing only my mere thoughts?

Hi linjunus,

It would seem so.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,20:08)

Dear Ed J, Your preachers and also the founder of your religious organization.

Hi linjunus,

A-N-D… what organization would that be?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,20:25)

Dear Ed J, you did not see the word NOT? it is the same with your post a very big NOT. Now, your attempt to divert the main issue to your own agenda is has been futile. Where is the divine credential of your preachers 'cum founder? None? So your beliefs is in trouble. You holding the doctrines not from God, but the false preachers. Do not try again to divert the topic with your own agenda Ed J, you won't success.

Hi linjunus,

What are you trying to say?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,20:35)

TO ALL: Some of you out there is doing the very best to divert the main issue to “a personal issue”. Ed J, is attacking my personality by mentioning the poor construction of my English. …. Why ED J, is this thread is to show the you are very good in English or the thread is intended to know which is the true preachers sent by God, and which is not? Ed J, show us here that your preachers has the divine credential from God, to preach His words and not how very you are in English?

Hi linjunus,

What preachers are you referring to?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2012,20:59)

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,20:08) Dear Ed J, Your preachers and also the founder of your religious organization. Hi linjunus, A-N-D…     what organization would that be? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

It is called chrislam,a brand new religion.
Straight out of the box.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Are you referring to me or linjunus?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2012,22:12)

Hi Wakeup, Are you referring to me or linjunus? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

I was referring to limj.
Why Ed, you are not a chrislam,we all know that.
But we still dont know what you realy believe.

wakeup.

[jammin]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,19:53)

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,19:40) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,14:37) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,03:00) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 08 2012,16:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 06 2012,01:48) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,15:31) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:21) LIMJ Quote What the best and important to do now is, to throw out your “big ego” (too much pride) and surrender to the will of God. I understand that you have no ego or pride left in you ,your preachers have taken it all ,you have nothing left in you worthy to be taken so they use you as a advertizing board, SERVING THEM ,THEIR INTEREST,MEN'S VIEWS,and NO I WILL NOT SURENDER TO THOSE MEN OR ANY MEN BUT MY CREATOR AND HIS SON AND THAT HIS THE TRUTH . Dear Terraricca, You are right. all my pride or egoistic I already surrendered with the truths of God. But how about you? You still clinging with your ego and pride. You still holding your own thoughts against the thoughts of God. I will repeat, it is not my own teaching.  You can read it again, it wont be erased, it still in the Bible. Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God. Do not fight against the messages of God, written in the book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV. Do not fight against the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul and Barnabas. Peace. this is not true. you are a false teacher boy LOL you are just pretending to be a messenger of GOD LOL you preach that christ is not GOD but the bible says he is GOD. why do you preach boy? LOL Jammin, You are in the wrong thread. Go back to your own thread. I was finished with you. “kiddie boy. Do you know how to read the thread jammin? read it again may be you lost your path.? cant you answer my question? why do you preach boy? Jammin, How about you, why you are preaching either? did you heard your beliefs/ doctrines from the true messengers of God? If your answer is Yes, then show and prove it here that your preachers or teachers are the genuine preachers sent by God. Show to us their divine credentials, the written prophesies in the Bible intended/designed for them. do not explain boy. i need your answer why do you preach? Jammin, Go back to the school again and ask what the different of sharing and the preaching? And you must understand also that this forum is not a class room and we are not the preachers or teachers here. We just sharing to each of everyone here what we had and do the comparison which is the right one based with our presentations of the arguments in relation with real issue.

therefore you cant answer my question why do you preach

is that what you mean?

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 15 2012,00:05)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2012,22:12) Hi Wakeup, Are you referring to me or linjunus? God bless Ed J Edj. I was referring to limj. Why Ed, you are not a chrislam,we all know that. But we still dont know what you realy believe. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup and limjunus, and All,

Wakeup, we can use the thread you started on me to discuss what I believe; OK?  (Link)

linjunus, I'm still waiting for a response and a vote from you…  (Here)

To all, Let's all respect limjunus and “Try” to stay on topic; OK?

  “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God

I personally believe they are different and it can be summed up this way:
“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” are responsible for the written word.
The true preachers of God are responsible for disseminating it.

Your brother in Christ,
“Jesus is Lord”(151)
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

linjunus believes one way is by the name one uses to call themselves,
for example his group is calls themselves the “Church of Christ”.
He believes by this one can be assured that they are.

Claim 1:  Since one can call themselves anything, how can we be assured that they are?

Claim 2:  Also it seems limjunus also believes that “ONLY“ their group is the REAL CHURCH.

We are all asking limjunus to produce the evidence of “CLAIM ONE” and “CLAIM 2”, so that we can then discuss his claims.
I believe that none of us here have seen any evidence to support either “CLAIM”, with the only exception of the name “C0C”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[limjunus]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 15 2012,01:46)

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,19:53) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,19:40) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,14:37) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,03:00) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 08 2012,16:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 06 2012,01:48) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,15:31) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:21) LIMJ Quote What the best and important to do now is, to throw out your “big ego” (too much pride) and surrender to the will of God. I understand that you have no ego or pride left in you ,your preachers have taken it all ,you have nothing left in you worthy to be taken so they use you as a advertizing board, SERVING THEM ,THEIR INTEREST,MEN'S VIEWS,and NO I WILL NOT SURENDER TO THOSE MEN OR ANY MEN BUT MY CREATOR AND HIS SON AND THAT HIS THE TRUTH . Dear Terraricca, You are right. all my pride or egoistic I already surrendered with the truths of God. But how about you? You still clinging with your ego and pride. You still holding your own thoughts against the thoughts of God. I will repeat, it is not my own teaching.  You can read it again, it wont be erased, it still in the Bible. Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God. Do not fight against the messages of God, written in the book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV. Do not fight against the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul and Barnabas. Peace. this is not true. you are a false teacher boy LOL you are just pretending to be a messenger of GOD LOL you preach that christ is not GOD but the bible says he is GOD. why do you preach boy? LOL Jammin, You are in the wrong thread. Go back to your own thread. I was finished with you. “kiddie boy. Do you know how to read the thread jammin? read it again may be you lost your path.? cant you answer my question? why do you preach boy? Jammin, How about you, why you are preaching either? did you heard your beliefs/ doctrines from the true messengers of God? If your answer is Yes, then show and prove it here that your preachers or teachers are the genuine preachers sent by God. Show to us their divine credentials, the written prophesies in the Bible intended/designed for them. do not explain boy. i need your answer why do you preach? Jammin, Go back to the school again and ask what the different of sharing and the preaching? And you must understand also that this forum is not a class room and we are not the preachers or teachers here. We just sharing to each of everyone here what we had and do the comparison which is the right one based with our presentations of the arguments in relation with real issue. therefore you cant answer my question why do you preach is that what you mean?

Dear Jammin.

Who told you that I am preaching?

Did you concluded that I am preaching?

Can you define what is the word “preach” is?

I know you Jammin, go back to your thread. You are pond of asking many questions but you have a great habit of not responding the questions address to you.

Since the beginning of this thread I did not claim that I am a preacher or a Pastor. This forum is not suited and not the proper place for a Pastor of Minister.

Then you have a gut to ask me “why do you preach”?

Do not make trouble with this thread. This not you thread Jammin. Go back to your thread and deal the other contributors there.

You do not know what is the thread? “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”

If you can not show here that your preachers has the divine credential from God, to preach the gospel of Christ better for you to go and make your own thread.

[limjunus]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,15:36)

Hi Everyone, linjunus believes one way is by the name one uses to call themselves, for example his group is calls themselves the “Church of Christ”. He believes by this one can be assured that they are. Claim 1:  Since one can call themselves anything, how can we be assured that they are? Claim 2:  Also it seems limjunus also believes that “ONLY“ their group is the REAL CHURCH. We are all asking limjunus to produce the evidence of “CLAIM ONE” and “CLAIM 2”, so that we can then discuss his claims. I believe that none of us here have seen any evidence to support either “CLAIM”, with the only exception of the name “C0C”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

What?

[/B]We are all asking limjunus to produce the evidence of “CLAIM ONE” and “CLAIM 2”, so that we can then discuss his claims.
I believe that none of us here have seen any evidence to support either “CLAIM”, with the only exception of the name “C0C”..

So, you become spokesman of the other people by using the words “we are all” and none of us here have seen any evidence to support either claim,..”

I am presuming that you did not read all my posts. Focus your mind to the testimonies of the great messengers (John the Baptist, Jesus and the apostles Paul/ Barnabas) of God, they are the one claiming their divine credentials; the fulfillment of the prophesies written long time ago for them. So that they could presented it as their divine identification as the true messengers or preachers sent by God.

Go back and read again my posts.

[limjunus]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,15:36)

Hi Everyone, linjunus believes one way is by the name one uses to call themselves, for example his group is calls themselves the “Church of Christ”. He believes by this one can be assured that they are. Claim 1:  Since one can call themselves anything, how can we be assured that they are? Claim 2:  Also it seems limjunus also believes that “ONLY“ their group is the REAL CHURCH. We are all asking limjunus to produce the evidence of “CLAIM ONE” and “CLAIM 2”, so that we can then discuss his claims. I believe that none of us here have seen any evidence to support either “CLAIM”, with the only exception of the name “C0C”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

Our recognized “messenger” of God, to preach the gospel of Christ has the Biblical testimonies, the same of what the testimonies with John the Baptist, Jesus and the Apostles Paul & Barnabas; the written prophesies specially made by God, for the true messengers.

Please, go back and read my posts. I have more to post but because of your many questions. I hath consumed all my allocated times to answer not only your questions, but also to Terraricca, David and wake-up.

[limjunus]

TO ALL:

here is the continuation of my post No. 779.

Now, look and check the missionary works of the Church Of Christ from the far east (Philippines) since July 27, 1914? From a very humble beginning. God, hath fulfilled His promised written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah 43:5-7 NKJV.

5. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the east, And gather you from the west; 6. I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth 7. Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him.

10Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.' Isaiah 41:10

Since July 27, 1914 with the expand of 98 years. From the very humble reviving of the true church of Christ. Besides of so many persecutions from the huge and so called christian religious organization Catholic and Protestant denominations (the North and the South: Isaiah 43:6) The “poor man” chosen by God, to be His true preachers in our times; lack of worldly materials, lack of proper educations, lack of friends with power and influences. What he just holding is the “divine credential made and assigned for him by the Lord God. He was bravely faces all the obstacles in performing his divine tasks given to him by the Lord God, in these last day. He was helped by God of Jesus Christ and been rewarded by triumphs after triumphs for the glory of the name of God's son.

With the full support, guidance and help from the Creator of everything, The missionary works of the Church Of Christ is getting works well in all aspect her endeavors. From zero milestone to a very grandstanding accomplishments; From one man to the millions of people, the gospel of Christ has been planted to their foreheads; Before they were serving and worshiping the false gods; before they had been jailed in the deepest darkness; performing the demons doctrines; living with the worldly style; their former Pastors/Priesthoods suppose to be the “the good shepherds of their spiritual nourishment, did not really care about their souls; they let the people live not according to the will of God;Killers, Lavish life style, corrupted, doing adulterous, cheater, dis-honest, wilds, envy, killing each other and the love to one another no more, and etc., etc., .

Before the believers (Church of Christ members) are gathering in a very miss-chief houses of services; facing the worst persecutions done by other christian groups, stoning the house of worship; killing the gospel workers; raping the women and cast them away from their so called “society”. calling the true believers of many different bad names; accusing them the craziest people they have ever met and many many more false accusations against the chosen people of God, in these last day.

But, look and check what is the status of the Church of Christ nowadays in this earth? Performing magnificently her divine given task by the Father, not only to the very corners of the Philippines (far East) but to all the corners of the world in behalf of His Son, Christ Jesus and to the glory of his name; and for the fulfillment of the prophesied “missionary works for as the testimony to all the antions” at the ends of the earth, then the end shall come.

14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
. Matthew 24:14 NKJV.

Glory be to the Father and God of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.

[limjunus]

TO ALL:

Here is what I had heard from the true preachers sent by God. Their “Testimony and the law” Isaiah 8:20, the “divine credential for them as the true messengers of God.

It is connected with the prophesied by Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior concerning what will be happened before the end of the world shall come. Here is the record: Matthew 24:3-14 ERV.

[/B]Later, Jesus was sitting at a place on the Mount of Olives. The followers came to be alone with him. They said, “Tell us when these things will happen. And what will happen to prepare us for your coming and the end of time?”

4 Jesus answered, “Be careful! Don’t let anyone fool you. 5 Many people will come and use my name. They will say, ‘I am the Messiah.’ And they will fool many people. 6 You will hear about wars that are being fought. And you will hear stories about other wars beginning. But don’t be afraid. These things must happen before the end comes. 7 Nations will fight against other nations. Kingdoms will fight against other kingdoms. There will be times when there is no food for people to eat. And there will be earthquakes in different places. 8 These things are only the beginning of troubles, like the first pains of a woman giving birth.

9 “Then you will be arrested and handed over to be punished and killed. People all over the world will hate you because you believe in me. 10 During that time many believers will lose their faith. They will turn against each other and hate each other. 11 Many false prophets will come and cause many people to believe things that are wrong. 12 There will be so much more evil in the world that the love of most believers will grow cold. 13 But the one who remains faithful to the end will be saved. 14 And the Good News I have shared about God’s kingdom will be told throughout the world. It will be spread to every nation. Then the end will come..

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Matthew 24:33 NKJV.

When you shall see all these things (the prophesies mentioned by Jesus) knowing that the end of the earth is near, ..”…even at the doors”.. meaning: “ends of the earth.

Here is one of the “divine credential” of the true preacher/s whom I had heard the gospel of Christ. Rev. 7:1-3 NKJV.

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God; and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 saying, “Hurt not the earth, neither the sea nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.”.

Another angel (messenger; Webster Dictionary) ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God;….” saying, “Hurt not the earth, neither the sea nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.”

Sealing the servants of God, mean: Preaching the gospel of Christ and the foreheads is meant and symbolizing for “minds or hearts. Read what is the back testimony of the Bible in Ephessians 1:13 NKJV.

13In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
.

The other four angels (messengers) is symbolizing the “BIG FOUR” the foreign messengers of the Nations involving to cease the 1st world war erupted on July 27, 1914 . called, “The Treaty of Paris”.

The other angel (messenger/s holding the authority (divine credential) to preach the gospel of Christ, during at the times of 1st world war is not literally shouting to the four angels (BIG FOUR) but representing the time element of the two great events. July 27, 1914 1st World War has been recorded in the World History and at the same time in another place of the earth, in the Far East (Philippines is one of many Nations in the Far East) on the same moment, the sealing of the servants of God, in their foreheads has begun and the religious organization, named Church Of Christ (Iglesia Ni Cristo) has been registered with the Philippines Government on July 27, 1914.

The same date of the 1st world war and the moment of the registration to the government of the Church Of Christ, is not just only or a mere co-incidents. God, hath prophesied it to be happened.

Check the fulfillment of the said prophesied written in the Book of Revelation 7:1-3 NKJV..

Check the world history record concerning the date of the 1st world war and check the official record of the Philippines government regarding the date of the Church Of Christ (Iglesia Ni Cristo in Pilipino) registration. You shall found out that the events had happened authenticated at the same time element. JULY 27, 1914

Now, look and check the missionary works of the Church Of Christ from the far east (Philippines) since July 27, 1914? From a very humble beginning. God, hath fulfilled His promised written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah 43:5-7 NKJV.

5Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the east, And gather you from the west; 6I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earthù 7Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him..

Peace be with us.

[limjunus]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2012,20:56)

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,20:05) Dear Ed J, Are you one of the insiders? Hi linjunus, You bet God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

Just prove it that you are one among the insiders (members of the church of Christ). no need for me to bet.

God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.

[limjunus]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2012,20:57)

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,19:42) Dear Ed J, What do you think I am doing … sharing only my mere thoughts? Hi linjunus, It would seem so. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

Are you blind? … or the Mark 4:11-12 NLV is happening to you?

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 15 2012,20:56)

Dear Ed J, (1)So, you become spokesman of the other people by using the words “we are all” and none of us here have seen any evidence to support either claim,..” (2)I am presuming that you did not read all my posts. (3)Focus your mind to the testimonies of the great messengers (John the Baptist, Jesus and the apostles Paul/ Barnabas) of God, they are the one claiming their divine credentials; the fulfillment of the prophesies written long time ago for them.  So that they could presented it as their divine identification as the true messengers or preachers sent by God. (4)Go back and read again my posts.

Hi linjunus,

1) Do you believe you are the spokesman for the “C0C” group here?
2) Once again you make a false presumption; as is your habit.
3) OK
4) Let's instead progress in this discussion; do you have anything to add?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 15 2012,21:03)

Dear Ed J, (1)Our recognized “messenger” of God, to preach the gospel of Christ has the Biblical testimonies, the same of  what the testimonies with John the Baptist, Jesus and the Apostles Paul & Barnabas; the written prophesies specially made by God, for the true messengers. (2)Please, go back and read  my posts.  I have more to post but because of your many questions. I hath consumed all my allocated times to answer not only your questions, but also to Terraricca, David and wake-up.

Hi linjunus,

1) OK
2) As I have stated I did read all your posts; do you have anything more to add?

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Will you please address my two points now?

linjunus believes one way is by the name one uses to call themselves,
for example his group is calls themselves the “Church of Christ”.
He believes by this one can be assured that they are.

Claim 1:  Since one can call themselves anything, how can we be assured that they are?

Claim 2:  Also it seems limjunus also believes that “ONLY“ their group is the REAL CHURCH.

We are all asking limjunus to produce the evidence of “CLAIM ONE” and “CLAIM 2”, so that we can then discuss his claims.
I believe that none of us here have seen any evidence to support either “CLAIM”, with the only exception of the name “C0C”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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