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John 17:11 “Now I am coming to you. I will not stay in the world, but these followers of mine are still in the world. Holy Father, keep them safe by the power of your name—the name you gave me. Then they will be one, just as you and I are one.
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 16 2012,21:22) limjunus it is true that we must be in the Church, the Body of Christ. What is it though. A denomination? No.
It is a temple made up of living stones.
Therefore, we do not go to Church, rather, we are the Church because we are the stones filled with the spirit of God.
t8,Here is the messages of the Holy Scriptures, the words of God.
Do not believe if I am telling only my own messages.
As what the Bible said: “Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.” (1 Cor. 12:27 RSV)
The Bible said, we must be individually member of the body of Christ, the church. (Col 1:18 NKJV).
You are now countering the truth of God.
How we (all christian) can be the church filled with the spirit of God, if we have a different spirits (different doctrines)?
The true church which Christ is the head, is having only one spirit (unity doctrines), one baptism, one God, one Lord, one head and one church.
We have been baptist in the name of Christ Jesus to be one body or church.
Ref: 1 Cor. 12:13 RSV.
13For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, Jews or Greeks, slaves or free and all were made to drink of one Spirit.
Member individually, means “not in different group but in one group or one church.
t8,
Our differences are the…
… very strong proof that we (all christian in the world with different denomination and beliefs) are not the one the so called true church by the Bible, because the true church headed by Christ, is in unity with the spirit (doctrines). There is no differences among them concerning what they hath believing.As per the Bible, we must be individually members of the body of Christ, (1 Cor. 12:27) with one spirit (doctrines). Therefore your reasoning is not in accord with the Bible or the words of God.
t8,
You need to seek the kingdom of God, here on earth and be part of it. Because He commanded everyone to find it.
Here is the commandment of the Lord.
33But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Matthew 6:33 NKJV.
33But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Matthew 6:33 NKJV.
“seek first, means: “top of all priorities”
limj
Quote Terrarrica, the messages I was sharing with you is not my own ideas, it came from the Holy Scriptures…. without the so called genuine preachers of God, alone.we could not able to understand the Holy Scriptures by ourselves why not
1KI 3:9 “So give Your servant an understanding heart to judge Your people to discern between good and evil. For who is able to judge this great people of Yours?”
1CH 22:12 “ Only the LORD give you discretion and understanding,
NE 8:2 Then Ezra the priest brought the law before the assembly of men, women and all who could listen with understanding,
JOB 17:4 “For You have kept their heart from understanding,
Therefore You will not exalt them.JOB 20:3 “I listened to the reproof which insults me,
And the spirit of my understanding makes me answer.JOB 28:28 “And to man He said, ‘Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom;
And to depart from evil is understanding.’ ”Job 32:7 I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.
Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
Job 32:9 Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.JOB 38:36 “Who has put wisdom in the innermost being
Or given understanding to the mind?PS 49:3 My mouth will speak wisdom,
And the meditation of my heart will be understanding.PS 119:34 Give me understanding, that I may observe Your law
And keep it with all my heart.PS 119:169
Let my cry come before You, O LORD;
Give me understanding according to Your word.PR 2:6 For the LORD gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding.MK 12:33 AND TO LOVE HIM WITH ALL THE HEART AND WITH ALL THE UNDERSTANDING AND WITH ALL THE STRENGTH, AND TO LOVE ONE/'S NEIGHBOR AS HIMSELF, is much more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
2CO 10:12 For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding.
EPH 4:18 being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart;COL 1:9 For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding,
2TI 2:7 Consider what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.
1JN 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
there are many more scriptures that shows that the faith we practice his in our heart and not in a church or congregation of people supporting a denomination to be strong in this world as a group.
t8,
Those people really longing for the salvation of his soul must be go inside the flock of Christ.
Here is the words of Christ.
John 10:9 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
9 I am the gate. Those who enter the sheep pen through me will be saved. They will go in and out of the sheep pen and find food.The people must be enter through Christ into the shep pen (flock).
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2012,00:31) there are many more scriptures that shows that the faith we practice his in our heart and not in a church or congregation of people supporting a denomination to be strong in this world as a group.
Terraricca,All the verses you have post are meant for and all belong to the chosen people of God, you must be in the kingdom of God, here on earth (the church) before you claim that verses are for you and for your associates.
Here is a vividly and too much strong evidence of the Bible that you are not in accord with the will of God.
Matthew 13:11 New International Reader's Version (NIRV)
11 He replied, “You have been given the chance to understand the secrets of the kingdom of heaven. It has not been given to outsiders.Only to the people inside the church, to understand the secrets (mystery) of the kingdom of God, not to the people outside the church, so called “outsiders”.
The so called “outsiders” shall be judged by God, and those people whom did not live according to the will of God, from inside the church, they should be expel and be with the outsiders.
Here is a Holy Scriptures supporting verses about it.
Read it nicely.
1 Corinthians 5:13 New Life Version (NLV)
13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.limj
Quote Matthew 13:11 New International Reader's Version (NIRV)
11 He replied, “You have been given the chance to understand the secrets of the kingdom of heaven. It has not been given to outsiders.ARE YOU SUGESTING THAT I AM NOT ONE OF CHRIST SHEEP
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2012,02:13) limj
ARE YOU SUGESTING THAT I AM NOT ONE OF CHRIST SHEEP
Terraricca,The words of God, is very clear about your inquiry.
The messages concerning the people inside the church and the people outside the church is not my own, it is the will of God.
He replied, “You have been given the chance to understand the secrets of the kingdom of heaven. It has not been given to outsiders.
God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.
Ref: Matthew 13:11 / 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV
As per the instruction of the Messiah, “enter to the sheep pen (church) through him…” then you shall be accounted as one among of his sheep.
1 Corinthians 12:27 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
27 You are Christ’s body and each of you is an individual part of it.The true “flock” (church) of Christ, hath unity in spirit (doctrines) inside the mystical body of Christ (a single spiritual organization here on earth), so called the kingdom of God, the spiritual dwelling place of God.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2012,02:14) LIMJ are you a mind sweeper
Terraricca,What do you mean about it, preventing to misunderstood you, be specific?
Do not forget, we are dealing the words of God, and not with our own and individual mind.
The words of God, is the light for His chosen people.
The children of God, will listen to the words of God.
Those people whose not belong to the so called children of God, shall not listen to His words.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2012,02:14) LIMJ are you a mind sweeper
Terraricca,The gospel of Christ is the “mind sweeper”.
…meant for cleaning our hearts,… bringing us from darkness to light.
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 17 2012,09:39) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2012,02:14) LIMJ are you a mind sweeper
Terraricca,The gospel of Christ is the “mind sweeper”.
…meant for cleaning our hearts,… bringing us from darkness to light.
LmjNo I think you are ,you are using the scriptures but you have another agenda ,
Christ was humble ,you down grade people by telling them what you believe they miss,and so try to convince them to accept your views on a church,cleverly done,your scriptures are not saying anything about thr reconstruction of the church on earth.
The messages concerning the people inside the church and the people outside the church is not my own, it is the will of God.
Study it very well and may the spirit of Christ, guide you with your seeking to find the truth about it.
He replied, “You have been given the chance to understand the secrets of the kingdom of heaven. It has not been given to outsiders.
God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.
Ref: Matthew 13:11 / 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.The mystery of the words of God, concerning His kingdom here on earth is exclusively for the chosen people which inside the church. Those people called “outsiders” are not in the inside of the church.
Those some members of the church that did not live in accordance with the will of God, shall be cast out from the church and would be united with the outsiders to be judged by God. (meaning they will not be saved, unless they shall be repented and be rejoined with the church)
Getting understanding with the mystery of the words of God, concerning His kingdom here on earth is exclusively for the chosen people which inside the church. Those people called “outsiders” are not in the inside of the church.
Those some members of the church that did not live in accordance with the will of God, shall be cast out from the church and would be united with the outsiders to be judged by God. (meaning they will not be saved, unless they shall be repented and be rejoined with the church)
1 Corinthians 12:27 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
27 You are Christ’s body and each of you is an individual part of it.18. And He (Christ) is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. (Ref: Col. 1:18 NKJV)
1There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. (Ref: Romans 8:1 NKJV)
For being and remaining inside the body of Christ, the church, till the end, no more condemnation.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2012,14:52) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 17 2012,09:39) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2012,02:14) LIMJ are you a mind sweeper
Terraricca,The gospel of Christ is the “mind sweeper”.
…meant for cleaning our hearts,… bringing us from darkness to light.
LmjNo I think you are ,you are using the scriptures but you have another agenda ,
Christ was humble ,you down grade people by telling them what you believe they miss,and so try to convince them to accept your views on a church,cleverly done,your scriptures are not saying anything about thr reconstruction of the church on earth.
Terraricca,Accusing me that “I have another agenda”?,… down grading the other people called “outsiders” by the Holy Scriptures and trying to tell and convincing them for what I am believing for?
I am not using the Holy Scriptures for my own personal and benefits. I am not glorifying myself by capitalizing the Bible.
What I am doing is to share the truth of the gospel of Christ. What I am emphasizing is “the words of God, the true messages of God, the rightful knowledge concerning the true will's of God, regarding the path for the salvation of our souls.
You can read back all of my postings and you will find that all the messages I am trying to share with this “Heaven Net” were purely the written words of God.
Verse by verses from the Bible and not by my own natural utterances and not by my own made ideas.
I am advising you to focus with true meaning of the words of God, verses by verses that I have taking out from the Bible, without additions and subtractions.
As what I have post with my previous posting, ” do not believe on me”, believe to the words of God”.
The Holy Scriptures is my testimony. There are two group of people specifically mentioned by the Bible.
One group of people were inside the church, and has been given knowledge exclusively to understand the mystery of the kingdom of God. and the other group of people were “outsiders” (not inside the church) and did not given the knowledge to understand the mystery of the kingdom of God
Ref: Matthew 13:11 / 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.
The messages concerning the people inside the church and the people outside the church is not my own, it is the will of God.
Study it very well and may the spirit of Christ, guide you with your seeking to find the truth about it.
He replied, “You have been given the chance to understand the secrets of the kingdom of heaven. It has not been given to outsiders.
God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.
Ref: Matthew 13:11 / 1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.The mystery of the words of God, concerning His kingdom here on earth is exclusively for the chosen people which inside the church. Those people called “outsiders” are not in the inside of the church.
Those some members of the church which did not live in accordance with the will of God, has been commanded to be cast out from the church and would be united with the outsiders and shall be judged by God. (meaning they will not be saved, unless they shall be repented and be rejoined with the church
Open the eyes of your heart and let the truth of God, be shining on your sight.
God bless you.
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