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Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:51) TO ALL: My time is running out for today and I should go for a while. I am thanking you very much for being patient with my Bible sharing. All the glories be with the Creator of heaven and earth and all the things therein. …
Praises be to the Lord God, almighty and to His Son Christ Jesus.
.
Limjunus.Are you the messenger of allah.
What about praise allah;and Jesus his prophet?
Since you also visit the mosque and pray on your knees,facing mecca.Your weekly routine must be; friday visit the mosque; and saturday go to church. Do you go to mecca every year,go round and round, and throw stones at a wall?
Have to put on a loose robe, and a towel around your head.wakeup.
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:24) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,23:04) Hi limjunus, I fully understand the meaning of Mark 4:11-12, but what is the point are you trying to make by posting it?
Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them(his Apostles), Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and
hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.God bless
Ed J
Ed J,Now, you have been caught red handed. Why did you added the words “his apostle”?
Hi limjunus,Are you suggesting that: Jesus was not, according to you, addressing his Apostles?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:24) Ed J, … and now you had a gut to give your conclusion that the “mystery of the kingdom of God, is just given to the apostles of Christ?
Hi limjunus,I didn't say what was told to the Apostles was only limited to them for all times?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:24) Ed J, Because you are not belong to the people inside the church of Christ, you will be one among the people outside the church and shall be judged by God, unless you have change your mind and be part of the body of Christ., the church. … then you have the part in getting the true knowledge about the mystery of the kingdom of God.
Hi limjunus,Your feeble threats mean nothing to me. I have
a verse for YOU, and ask that you prayerfully consider it.“But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God,
even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethren,
bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation
his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not,
and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.” (James 3:8-15)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:34) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,23:06) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,22:52) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,21:28) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:13) I just making a point of clarification what I really want to say that you could not even easily to understand Ed?
Try me
Dear Ed J,You have been tried many times but you still in a shotcoming.
Hi limjunus,Are you referring to your fake stories at the beginning of this thread?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Do not just lay down the plain accusation,.. you must prove that my presentation is a fake story.
Hi limjunus,If I start a story by saying “imagine you are on a boat”,
since you know you are not on a boat, you know it is a fake story.If you remember you started YOUR fake story with words to the effect of “imagine you lived in the time of B.C.”
since we actually live in the time of 2012 A.D., that makes your story fake; or haven't you realized that yet?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:46) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,22:09) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:57)
If you can not stand with my presentations, you can go away and do not deal with me anymore, but please do not act like a newly born baby.
Hi linjunus,It is not your presentations that are the problem, but instead your presumptions.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,My presentation is accompany by my presumptions and you can not set aside and branded it as the problem.
Show me which presumptions of mine that you have concluded as the problems, do you?
You are having the great habit of telling something without emphasizing it specifically.
Be specific with your comments and do not let the readers to do the guessing?
Praise be to God and Father of Christ Jesus.
Hi limjunus, I have.You make the presumption that you are not my brother in Christ.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2012,02:37) Limjunus. Isaiah 32:6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise HYPOCRISY, and to utter ERROR against the LORD, to make EMPTY THE SOUL OF THE HUNGRY, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to FAIL.
Isaiah 32:7 The instruments also of the churl are EVIL: he deviseth WICKRD DEVICES to destroy the poor with LYING WORDS, even when the needy speaketh right.
Isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
Isaiah 32:9 Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.
Isaiah 32:10 MANY DAYS AND YEARS shall ye be troubled, ye CARELESS women: for the vintage shall fail, the GATHERING shall not come.
wakeup.
Dear Wakeup,Here is the Isaiah 22:6-9 descriptions.
13″But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
14Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.
15″Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves..Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2012,03:04) limj Quote I am not the one will answer it. Let the Holy Scriptures say something: ” 1 Cor. 1:9 and 2-Thess 2:14 NKJV. 9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
..Before we can go to the Father, we must go first to Jesus and before we can go to Jesus, we must bring us by the Father to Jesus. As what it was written.
2Th 2:13 But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
2Th 2:14 He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.see the last words of Paul;””;whether by word of mouth or by letter.”” and Paul does not talking about his personal gospel but the one he recieved from Christ ;Gal 1:6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
Gal 1:7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.2CO 11:14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
GAL 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we(apostles) have preached to you, he is to be accursed!1JN 2:22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.
it seems you are still a liar and a fake and so his your church ;so I stand behind my words,
Dear Terraricca,You did not notice the messages of Apostle Paul?
Here it is: “through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we(apostles) have preached to you, he is to be accursed!.
Now, is the Romans 10:13-15, 17 is not the same gospel?
Is the divine credentials presented by John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul & Barnabas are not the same gospel compare to the gospel hath preached by the Apostles?
Look into it one more time and see if it is not the same gospel?
19Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22Then they said to him, “Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?” 23He said: “I am 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Make straight the way of the LORD,”' as the prophet Isaiah said.” (John 1:1923 NKJV)
The prophesied written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah concerning the Chapter 40:verse 3 has been fulfilled to John the Baptist. How about the remaining prophesied? So, we need to watch again and find out who are the people suited for the Prophet Isaiah prophesied? Here is another event. Assuming that were inside and standing inside the synagogue. A man entered and he begun to do his acts.
14Then Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and news of Him went out through all the surrounding region. 15And He taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. 16So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written: 18″The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; 19To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.” 20Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” (Luke 13-21 NKJV)
The same with John the Baptist. The man entered inside the Synagogue, name Jesus, claimed the the Chapter 61: verses 1-3 of the Book of Prophet Isaiah has been fulfilled to Christ Jesus.
How about the remaining prophesied, to whom it shall be fulfilled? Okay, do not be rushed, let us go to the time of the Apostles. We will listen watch and observe which the remaining prophesied be fulfilled to whom? Here is the event and Christ Jesus was already ascended to heaven.
46. Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47. For so the Lord has commanded us: 'I have set you as a light to the Gentiles, That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.'
17. I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, 18. to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.' (Acts 13:46-47, 26:17-18 NKJV)
The same with John the Baptist, Christ Jesus, Apostle Paul claiming the prophesied written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah, Chapter 49: verse 6, has been fulfilled with Paul and Barnabas.
All of the testimonies concerning the true messengers of God, has been written before they could be born. The divine credentials specially made by God, and it was the unique pattern of God, to justified that the preachers of the words of God, were really sent by Him. God, honored it and order to prophet Isaiah to jot it down for the record in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 8: verse 20. Here is what we can be read.
20To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
please, continue to my next post.
God bless you.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2012,16:03) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:51) TO ALL: My time is running out for today and I should go for a while. I am thanking you very much for being patient with my Bible sharing. All the glories be with the Creator of heaven and earth and all the things therein. …
Praises be to the Lord God, almighty and to His Son Christ Jesus.
.
Limjunus.Are you the messenger of allah.
What about praise allah;and Jesus his prophet?
Since you also visit the mosque and pray on your knees,facing mecca.Your weekly routine must be; friday visit the mosque; and saturday go to church. Do you go to mecca every year,go round and round, and throw stones at a wall?
Have to put on a loose robe, and a towel around your head.wakeup.
Dear Wakeup,Me, messenger of A'llah? My answer is No.
What about praising A'llah and His prophet Jesus? My answer is,
“In Islam, they did not believe that their A'llah has a son name, Jesus. Their recognized God (A'llah) has no begotten son. I am a true christian and I do believe that Christ Jesus is the begotten Son of God, he has a Father, the only true God in heaven.
Who told you that I was visiting the Mosque and praying while my knees folded down and facing the City of Mecca?
Where did you got the information that I was doing the following?
Quote: “Your weekly routine must be; friday visit the mosque; and saturday go to church. Do you go to mecca every year,go round and round, and throw stones at a wall?
Have to put on a loose robe, and a towel around your head.”I am a true believers of Christ Jesus and his gospel. I will not perform the five pillars of Islam and the other Muslim beliefs; even one of the beliefs of the two Muslim group; Sunni and Shia.
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:57) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:46) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,22:09) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:57)
If you can not stand with my presentations, you can go away and do not deal with me anymore, but please do not act like a newly born baby.
Hi linjunus,It is not your presentations that are the problem, but instead your presumptions.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,My presentation is accompany by my presumptions and you can not set aside and branded it as the problem.
Show me which presumptions of mine that you have concluded as the problems, do you?
You are having the great habit of telling something without emphasizing it specifically.
Be specific with your comments and do not let the readers to do the guessing?
Praise be to God and Father of Christ Jesus.
Hi limjunus, I have.You make the presumption that you are not my brother in Christ.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,It is not only just my presumption, It is in accordance with the Sacred Scriptures presumption.
If you shall not believe that “you must be part of the body of Christ or you must be one among the so called the body of Christ and members in particular, you are not my brother? (1 Cor. 12:27)
If you shall not believe that Christ Jesus died only for the peole inside his church and not for all the people just believing and calling his name but do not want to join with his church. You are not my brother in Christ. ( Eph. 5:23 TEV)
Peace.
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:37) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:24) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,23:04) Hi limjunus, I fully understand the meaning of Mark 4:11-12, but what is the point are you trying to make by posting it?
Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them(his Apostles), Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and
hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.God bless
Ed J
Ed J,Now, you have been caught red handed. Why did you added the words “his apostle”?
Hi limjunus,Are you suggesting that: Jesus was not, according to you, addressing his Apostles?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Christ Jesus is not only addressing the apostles but to the entire chosen people of God, as a whole and the chosen people of God, in Christ Jesus times is the church of Christ (Acts 20:28 G. Lamsa).
Read it again Ed.
Mark 4:11-12
New Living Translation (NLT)
11 He replied, “You are permitted to understand the secret[a] of the Kingdom of God. But I use parables for everything I say to outsiders, 12 so that the Scriptures might be fulfilled:‘When they see what I do,
they will learn nothing.
When they hear what I say,
they will not understand.
Otherwise, they will turn to me
and be forgiven..“to outsiders mean: ” not the insiders. Whose people are insiders?
Here is the clear answer of the Holy Scriptures:
13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church. (1 Cor. 5:13 NLV.)
Therefore the outsiders are not part of the people inside the church of Christ.
Peace.
TO ALL:
That's for now. I have a limited time to day. I'll be back again.
Glory be to the Almighty God, the only true God and Father of Christ Jesus and his believers.
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 08 2012,16:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 06 2012,01:48) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,15:31) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:21) LIMJ Quote What the best and important to do now is, to throw out your “big ego” (too much pride) and surrender to the will of God. I understand that you have no ego or pride left in you ,your preachers have taken it all ,you have nothing left in you worthy to be taken so they use you as a advertizing board, SERVING THEM ,THEIR INTEREST,MEN'S VIEWS,and NO I WILL NOT SURENDER TO THOSE MEN OR ANY MEN BUT MY CREATOR AND HIS SON AND THAT HIS THE TRUTH .
Dear Terraricca,You are right. all my pride or egoistic I already surrendered with the truths of God.
But how about you? You still clinging with your ego and pride.
You still holding your own thoughts against the thoughts of God.
I will repeat, it is not my own teaching. You can read it again, it wont be erased, it still in the Bible.
Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God.
Do not fight against the messages of God, written in the book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
Do not fight against the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul and Barnabas.
Peace.
this is not true.
you are a false teacher boy LOL
you are just pretending to be a messenger of GOD LOLyou preach that christ is not GOD but the bible says he is GOD.
why do you preach boy? LOL
Jammin,You are in the wrong thread. Go back to your own thread. I was finished with you. “kiddie boy.
Do you know how to read the thread jammin? read it again may be you lost your path.?
cant you answer my question?
why do you preach boy?Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,00:24) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:57) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:46)
Dear Ed J,Show me which presumptions of mine that you have concluded as the problems, do you?
Hi limjunus, I have.You make the presumption that you are not my brother in Christ.
God bless
Ed J
Dear Ed J,(1) It is not only just my presumption, It is in accordance with the Sacred Scriptures presumption.
If you shall not believe that “you must be part of the body of Christ or you must be one among the so called the body of Christ and members in particular, you are not my brother? (1 Cor. 12:27)
(2) If you shall not believe that Christ Jesus died only for the peole inside his church and not for all the people just believing and calling his name but do not want to join with his church. You are not my brother in Christ. ( Eph. 5:23 TEV)
Peace.
Hi limjunus,1) “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” (1 Cor 12:27)
1Cor.12:27 Dos NOT say that Ed J is not, as you are now FALSELY presuming once again, part of the body of Christ.
Once again you are proving YOURSELF to make erroneous presumptions that are not written in the Sacred Scriptures.(2) “For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.” (Eph 5:23)
Here you are making the erroneous presumption that only the group you are aggrandizing for are the body of Christ.
YOU continue to make false presumptions about me fulfilling the prophecy of Joshua 22:25, where it explicitly states
and I quote the Sacred Scriptures: “ye have no part (HERE IS WHERE YOU FALSELY INSERT MY NAME) in the LORD”Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest realized that he made a false presumption towards the Children I represent,
but YOU continue in YOUR false erroneous presumptions that are not explicitly stated in the Sacred Scriptures.
Something that your group you are aggrandizing for accuses others of doing that YOU yourself are doing.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,00:39) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:37) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:24) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,23:04) Hi limjunus, I fully understand the meaning of Mark 4:11-12, but what is the point are you trying to make by posting it?
Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them(his Apostles), Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and
hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.God bless
Ed J
Ed J,Now, you have been caught red handed. Why did you added the words “his apostle”?
Hi limjunus,Are you suggesting that: Jesus was not, according to you, addressing his Apostles?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,(1) Christ Jesus is not only addressing the apostles (2)but to the entire chosen people of God, as a whole and the chosen people of God, in Christ Jesus times is the church of Christ (Acts 20:28 G. Lamsa).
Peace.
Hi limjunus,1) Then you admit you are a false accuser (who now repents), stating now that
Jesus was indeed addressing “his Apostles” as I have correctly stated – right?2) Here you are once again making the false erroneous presumption
that only the group you are aggrandizing for are the body of Christ.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2012,04:41) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,00:24) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:57) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:46)
Dear Ed J,Show me which presumptions of mine that you have concluded as the problems, do you?
Hi limjunus, I have.You make the presumption that you are not my brother in Christ.
God bless
Ed J
Dear Ed J,(1) It is not only just my presumption, It is in accordance with the Sacred Scriptures presumption.
If you shall not believe that “you must be part of the body of Christ or you must be one among the so called the body of Christ and members in particular, you are not my brother? (1 Cor. 12:27)
(2) If you shall not believe that Christ Jesus died only for the peole inside his church and not for all the people just believing and calling his name but do not want to join with his church. You are not my brother in Christ. ( Eph. 5:23 TEV)
Peace.
Hi limjunus,1) “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” (1 Cor 12:27)
1Cor.12:27 Dos NOT say that Ed J is not, as you are now FALSELY presuming once again, part of the body of Christ.
Once again you are proving YOURSELF to make erroneous presumptions that are not written in the Sacred Scriptures.(2) “For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.” (Eph 5:23)
Here you are making the erroneous presumption that only the group you are aggrandizing for are the body of Christ.
YOU continue to make false presumptions about me fulfilling the prophecy of Joshua 22:25, where it explicitly states
and I quote the Sacred Scriptures: “ye have no part (HERE IS WHERE YOU FALSELY INSERT MY NAME) in the LORD”Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest realized that he made a false presumption towards the Children I represent,
but YOU continue in YOUR false erroneous presumptions that are not explicitly stated in the Sacred Scriptures.
Something that your group you are aggrandizing for accuses others of doing that YOU yourself are doing.יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Dear Ed J,1.) How come you are part of the body of Christ or his church? Those people inside the church were listening to his words. How about you, did you listen and obey his words? You even did not believe to the messages written Romans 10:14-15, 17 by apostle Paul that the preachers of the gospel to be must be sent by God.
Do not seek the words “ED J, is not included” with 1 Cor. 12:27.
There Bible is clearly saying, the “outsiders” (people not member or part of the body / church of Christ) do not know the mystery of the kingdom of God. Opposite of the sentence is, only the “insiders” can do and those true preachers sent by God, are included in the words “members in particular”
Proving that you are the one making the wrong presumption and you are trying your very best to change the course.
2.) For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and
Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body.25Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave his life for it.
28. “Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which He hath purchased with His own blood.”.
Christ Jesus, died for the church … purchasing a certain group of people (church) taken from the darkness to the marvelous light and has been brought or added to the church by God (Acts 2:47)
If the church is not necessary for the salvation our souls, why God, needed to add daily the people in the church and why Christ Jesus needed the church to be bought by his blood?
Now, you have just proven here that you are a certified “twister” of the words of God, and proven also the your preachers and teachers were not the true preachers sent by God. You have learned a lot from them and worthy to receive the certification of best graduated as a “professional twister of the words of God. Read the warning of apostle Peter.
15and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvationùas also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures..
Romans 10:14-15, 17 is belong to the many written epistles of apostle Paul, that you could not be accepted and doing your very best to twisted it.
Quote (david @ Nov. 13 2012,07:53) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,19:25) Quote (david @ Nov. 11 2012,04:09) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,17:59) Quote (david @ Nov. 10 2012,13:14) Limjunis, can you speak plainly? Can you plainly tell us what YOUR credentials are? I am not asking for a long confounded paragraph, but a simple explanation that a 5 year old could understand:
How do we know that YOU are from God? What are YOUR credentials? (No need to explain a process or start from the beginning. Start at the end and please, just tell us what you consider YOUR credentials to be.)
Thank you in advance.
Dear David,My “divine credential” is, I heard the words of God, from the genuine messenger/ preachers sent by God. I had been with them since I have believing for what the messages of God, has been commissioned to be speak by and through them..
I am sharing with you guys, the true gospel of Christ, that I had been heard from them (messengers of God).
Since and then I have my holy and noble obligation to my neighbors to share it with them … for my compliance to one of the commandments of the Lord. “LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS THE LOVE TO YOURSELF”.
Limjunis, here is the Problem:What if I or someone else said the exact same thing?
“I heard the word of god from the true messengers…”
Anyone can say that. But my question is: how do you know THEY are the true messengers?
It seems the reason you say you are a true messenger of god is because you heard a message from THEM, who you say are true messengers.
So, HOW DO WE KNOW THEY ARE THE TRUE MESSENGERS OF GOD?
If you say: “because they heard the message from true messengers” this won't answer the question. A lot of groups could say the same thing. Catholics could just as easily be saying what you are saying.
How are the ones that told you the message different? Why are they true, while others are false?
Dear David,I've thought you had read my post about it.
Will you please go and read it back from the start with this thread so that I will not posting again and again the same post.
The “divine credential” of the true preachers sent by God, is not the one you have post. Quote:
“If you say: “because they heard the message from true messengers” this won't answer the question. A lot of groups could say the same thing. Catholics could just as easily be saying what you are saying.”
It is better for you read the whole thread then you will find the answer to your question.
Limjunis,We are simply looking for any facts that back up what you say. If I understand this, You say that you are a true messenger because you heard the message from the true messengers.
Well, couldn't anyone say that? where is the proof?
Dear David,You can not understand my very simple statement?
I am not the messenger of God, but I have heard the words of God, from the preachers sent by God,
They hath presented their “divine credential”, the law and the testimony of the Bible (prophesies for them). I am just sharing what I have heard and even though you have believing on my shared story but without hearing the full gospel from the “official preachers” authorized by the church's administration you shall not benefited; you should check it out if the one I hath sharing with you are the same with the teaching of the messengers of God?
You need to do something for your own salvation and it is worth dying for.
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,18:51) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2012,03:04) limj Quote I am not the one will answer it. Let the Holy Scriptures say something: ” 1 Cor. 1:9 and 2-Thess 2:14 NKJV. 9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
..Before we can go to the Father, we must go first to Jesus and before we can go to Jesus, we must bring us by the Father to Jesus. As what it was written.
2Th 2:13 But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
2Th 2:14 He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.see the last words of Paul;””;whether by word of mouth or by letter.”” and Paul does not talking about his personal gospel but the one he recieved from Christ ;Gal 1:6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
Gal 1:7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.2CO 11:14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
GAL 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we(apostles) have preached to you, he is to be accursed!1JN 2:22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.
it seems you are still a liar and a fake and so his your church ;so I stand behind my words,
Dear Terraricca,You did not notice the messages of Apostle Paul?
Here it is: “through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we(apostles) have preached to you, he is to be accursed!.
Now, is the Romans 10:13-15, 17 is not the same gospel?
Is the divine credentials presented by John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul & Barnabas are not the same gospel compare to the gospel hath preached by the Apostles?
Look into it one more time and see if it is not the same gospel?
19Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22Then they said to him, “Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?” 23He said: “I am 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Make straight the way of the LORD,”' as the prophet Isaiah said.” (John 1:1923 NKJV)
The prophesied written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah concerning the Chapter 40:verse 3 has been fulfilled to John the Baptist. How about the remaining prophesied? So, we need to watch again and find out who are the people suited for the Prophet Isaiah prophesied? Here is another event. Assuming that were inside and standing inside the synagogue. A man entered and he begun to do his acts.
14Then Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and news of Him went out through all the surrounding region. 15And He taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. 16So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written: 18″The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; 19To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.” 20Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” (Luke 13-21 NKJV)
The same with John the Baptist. The man entered inside the Synagogue, name Jesus, claimed the the Chapter 61: verses 1-3 of the Book of Prophet Isaiah has been fulfilled to Christ Jesus.
How about the remaining prophesied, to whom it shall be fulfilled? Okay, do not be rushed, let us go to the time of the Apostles. We will listen watch and observe which the remaining prophesied be fulfilled to whom? Here is the event and Christ Jesus was already ascended to heaven.
46. Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47. For so the Lord has commanded us: 'I have set you as a light to the Gentiles, That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.'
17. I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, 18. to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.' (Acts 13:46-47, 26:17-18 NKJV)
The same with John the Baptist, Christ Jesus, Apostle Paul claiming the prophesied written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah, Chapter 49: verse 6, has been fulfilled with Paul and Barnabas.
All of the testimonies concerning the true messengers of God, has been written before they could be born. The divine credentials specially made by God, and it was the unique pattern of God, to justified that the preachers of the words of God, were really sent by Him. God, honored it and order to prophet Isaiah to jot it down for the record in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 8: verse 20. Here is what we can be read.
20To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
please, continue to my next post.
God bless you.
limjI told you it is your interpretation that stinks ,you try to give the illution that you are on the side of good and all others on the wrong side ,but that his not what scriptures are saying ,
and I am done with you .for now
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:49) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 13 2012,00:24) Ed J, Because you are not belong to the people inside the church of Christ, you will be one among the people outside the church and shall be judged by God, unless you have change your mind and be part of the body of Christ., the church. … then you have the part in getting the true knowledge about the mystery of the kingdom of God.
Hi limjunus,Your feeble threats mean nothing to me. I have
a verse for YOU, and ask that you prayerfully consider it.“But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God,
even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethren,
bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation
his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not,
and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.” (James 3:8-15)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear ED J,I told you many times in this thread. It is not my words.
Go back and read what it was written: God shall judged the outsiders; and He order the Apostles to remove the sinner from the church.
1 Corinthians 5:13
New Life Version (NLV)
13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church..You can not understand it ( 1Cor. 5:13 NLV) ? ..because you are not the son of God?
Is the 1 Cor. 5:13 not one among the righteousness of God?
Hear this Ed J,.
10.and said, “O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord? ( Acts 13:10 NKJV)
It was written: ” Those people of God, listen to the words of God..”
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 14 2012,10:30) Do not seek the words “ED J, is not included” with 1 Cor. 12:27.
Hi limjunus,There you go again, making false erroneous presumptions.
My guys are ready for battle:
Quote (t8 @ Nov. 14 2012,11:25) Take a look at my avatar if you don't believe me. God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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