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Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 12 2012,06:57) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,08:06) lj Quote Terrarricca, ask guidance from Christ Jesus, so that he can guide you to the right church ,… his true kingdom here on earth. AND WHO HIS THE RIGHT CHURCH
Terrarrica,I am not the one to tell you which one his the right church.
As what the Holy Scriptures said:
“Deuteronomy 4:29 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)But there in these other lands you will look for the Lord your God. And if you look for him with all your heart and soul, you will find him.
If you really seek Him with all you heart and soul.
The only true God, our Father in heaven shall be the one to bring you in His Son's kingdom here on earth.Read what our Lord Jesus Christ, announcement:
“John 6:44 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
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The Father is the one who sent me, and he is the one who brings people to me. I will raise them up on the last day. Anyone the Father does not bring to me cannot come to meHow the our Father in heaven could bring the people to Christ?
Read: 2 Thessalonians 2:14 (KJ21)
whereunto He called you by our Gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Proof that there are preachers in our times before the end will come:
Matthew 24:14 New Living Translation (NLT)
And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come.
Listen only to the true preachers of God, which whom he hath sent. ( Romans 10:13-5, 17 NKJV)
I am not the one who shall bring you to Christ, but our Father in heaven shall call you by His gospel through the genuine preachers.
Find the true preachers of God and listen, then God, shall called you to the fellowship of Christ.
God bless you.
ljQuote Listen only to the true preachers of God, which whom he hath sent. ( Romans 10:13-5, 17 NKJV) THIS IS ONLY CHRIST,
but that is what I have done for the past 50 years what is your point
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 12 2012,22:35) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 12 2012,06:57) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,08:06) lj Quote Terrarricca, ask guidance from Christ Jesus, so that he can guide you to the right church ,… his true kingdom here on earth. AND WHO HIS THE RIGHT CHURCH
Terrarrica,I am not the one to tell you which one his the right church.
As what the Holy Scriptures said:
“Deuteronomy 4:29 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)But there in these other lands you will look for the Lord your God. And if you look for him with all your heart and soul, you will find him.
If you really seek Him with all you heart and soul.
The only true God, our Father in heaven shall be the one to bring you in His Son's kingdom here on earth.Read what our Lord Jesus Christ, announcement:
“John 6:44 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
“
The Father is the one who sent me, and he is the one who brings people to me. I will raise them up on the last day. Anyone the Father does not bring to me cannot come to meHow the our Father in heaven could bring the people to Christ?
Read: 2 Thessalonians 2:14 (KJ21)
whereunto He called you by our Gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Proof that there are preachers in our times before the end will come:
Matthew 24:14 New Living Translation (NLT)
And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come.
Listen only to the true preachers of God, which whom he hath sent. ( Romans 10:13-5, 17 NKJV)
I am not the one who shall bring you to Christ, but our Father in heaven shall call you by His gospel through the genuine preachers.
Find the true preachers of God and listen, then God, shall called you to the fellowship of Christ.
God bless you.
ljQuote Listen only to the true preachers of God, which whom he hath sent. ( Romans 10:13-5, 17 NKJV) THIS IS ONLY CHRIST,
but that is what I have done for the past 50 years what is your point
Terraricca,Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is in heaven and he is not the only messenger by God.
Before Christ, there were so many true preachers sent by of God, the prophets. and after Jesus Christ ascended to heaven, there were the apostles and evangelist,.. but they were all dead and God know's it in the first place that's why through the mouth of His beloved Son hath come out the spirit of the testimony in John 10:16 ERV. The people of God, shall be gathered in one body/church (there shall be one flock/church) and having one Shepherd).
Matthew 24:14 NKJV
14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.There shall be true preachers sent by God, before the end will come.
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” (John 6:29 NKJV)
Jesus Christ, shall be sent again not to preach the gospel but to judge the world,..his second coming here on earth is the end of the world.
God, sent the true preachers with the testimony of the prophecy.
Find them and listen to them. because the messengers of God, shall spoke the words of God.
God is the wiser God, He knows we need the true preachers (Roman 10:13-15, 17) God knows that the apostles and evangelist shall be died and the 1st century church will be apostatized. The son of God is now with Him.
God, knows that we need the true preachers to hear His words of salvation.
The true preachers must be sent by God and accompany by Bible prophecies as the testimony (Isaiah 8:20 NKJV).
Find the true preachers with the Bible prophecies Bible testimony) and listen to them.
Isaiah 8:20 Romans 10:13-15, 17 NKJV)
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 14 2012,01:54) God is the wiser God, He knows we need the true preachers (Roman 10:13-15, 17) God knows that the apostles and evangelist shall be died and the 1st century church will be apostatized. The son of God is now with Him. God, knows that we need the true preachers to hear His words of salvation.
The true preachers must be sent by God and accompany by Bible prophecies as the testimony (Isaiah 8:20 NKJV).
Find the true preachers with the Bible prophecies Bible testimony) and listen to them.
Isaiah 8:20 Romans 10:13-15, 17 NKJV)
limjJn 17:13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them.
Jn 17:14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.
Jn 17:15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
Jn 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it.
Jn 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.
Jn 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world.
Jn 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
Jn 17:22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one:
Jn 17:23 I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.do you believe those words of Christ ,if you do then you do not need help from men who deceive other.if you have the truth and your master his Christ and your God his his father ,why would you again left God to go to men for help
to me any men that proclaim himself to be Gods prophet would not be from God,but a deceiver,
lmj
Quote Jesus Christ, shall be sent again not to preach the gospel but to judge the world,..his second coming here on earth is the end of the world. Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”read verse 21 and understand
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2012,23:39) do you believe those words of Christ ,if you do then you do not need help from men who deceive other.if you have the truth and your master his Christ and your God his his father ,why would you again left God to go to men for help to me any men that proclaim himself to be Gods prophet would not be from God,but a deceiver,
Terrarrica,My point is, “to be sure that you have heard the truth, you must be heard it from the genuine preachers of God.”
As what the Holy Scriptures said that there shall be false preachers and false prophet scattered around the world to deceive not only few but many.(Satan's angels/ messengers)
The Holy Scriptures also said that there were true preachers sent by God. We could distinguish the true preachers of God, by observing His pattern. Listen only to the one sent by God (Romans 10:13-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20).
Without the Holy Scriptures prophecies to support any preacher approaching us, meant, No light in them (no truth).
Read the Bible: John the Baptist has the prophecy for him, the same with Jesus and the apostles, including the church as the plants of God.
3To console those who mourn in Zion, To give them beauty for ashes, The oil of joy for mourning, The garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; That they may be called trees of righteousness, The planting of the LORD, that He may be glorified.” Isaiah 61:3 NKJV
Therefore, those so called preachers scattered around the world without the proof of the prophecies written in the Bible, as their divine credential from God, are false preachers and false prophets.
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 15 2012,21:52) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2012,23:39) do you believe those words of Christ ,if you do then you do not need help from men who deceive other.if you have the truth and your master his Christ and your God his his father ,why would you again left God to go to men for help to me any men that proclaim himself to be Gods prophet would not be from God,but a deceiver,
Terrarrica,My point is, “to be sure that you have heard the truth, you must be heard it from the genuine preachers of God.”
As what the Holy Scriptures said that there shall be false preachers and false prophet scattered around the world to deceive not only few but many.(Satan's angels/ messengers)
The Holy Scriptures also said that there were true preachers sent by God. We could distinguish the true preachers of God, by observing His pattern. Listen only to the one sent by God (Romans 10:13-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20).
Without the Holy Scriptures prophecies to support any preacher approaching us, meant, No light in them (no truth).
Read the Bible: John the Baptist has the prophecy for him, the same with Jesus and the apostles, including the church as the plants of God.
3To console those who mourn in Zion, To give them beauty for ashes, The oil of joy for mourning, The garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; That they may be called trees of righteousness, The planting of the LORD, that He may be glorified.” Isaiah 61:3 NKJV
Therefore, those so called preachers scattered around the world without the proof of the prophecies written in the Bible, as their divine credential from God, are false preachers and false prophets.
LmjYour believe in that so called prophet reminds me of a sect that ad a prophet that died and that declared in the late sixties that the end comes and that all the western part of the U.S.a and Canada will be destroyed ,and so they moved in land that is we're I have met some of them,they must still waiting for things to happen,
I have shown you scriptures and you can read your own bible and let God guide you in his word,
But as for a modern prophet no way,the scriptures his the message ,so you better read it,
My faith is based on the scriptures and I know them well,so do not try to put me to sleep with old women stories,
Trying to make it believe able you quote old accomplished prophecies,
Not good enough,if you have no truth you have nothing ,and you have nothing at all
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2012,23:39) do you believe those words of Christ ,if you do then you do not need help from men who deceive other.if you have the truth and your master his Christ and your God his his father ,why would you again left God to go to men for help to me any men that proclaim himself to be Gods prophet would not be from God,but a deceiver,
Terrarrica,The Holy Scriptures is saying very clearly that before you can believe, you must be heard the words of God……
and how you can be heard without the preachers …?
and how they can be preach, except they have been sent?
and how they can have the truth (light) if they have no the written prophecies as their divine credential and testimony?
13. For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.” 14. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15. And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
17. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.20.To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them (Romans 10:13-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20)
Self proclaimed prophet and preacher without the testimony of the Bible is 100% a false preacher and a false prophet.
Do not just base your conclusion with your own self understanding concerning the preacher but you must be based with the Holy Scriptures testimony or prophecies.
Lmj
Sins the invention of the printing machine the message of God as made more round trips around the world than You have years,only God sees the heart and so help all who are living in truth,no men can do that
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 15 2012,15:17) Your believe in that so called prophet reminds me of a sect that ad a prophet that died and that declared in the late sixties that the end comes and that all the western part of the U.S.a and Canada will be destroyed ,and so they moved in land that is we're I have met some of them,they must still waiting for things to happen, I have shown you scriptures and you can read your own bible and let God guide you in his word,
But as for a modern prophet no way,the scriptures his the message ,so you better read it,
My faith is based on the scriptures and I know them well,so do not try to put me to sleep with old women stories,
Trying to make it believe able you quote old accomplished prophecies,
Not good enough,if you have no truth you have nothing ,and you have nothing at all
Terrarrica,One of the truth base with the Holy Scriptures is,
“There were false preachers and false prophets” .. and the one you have post is belong with the false preachers/prophets categorically. Because they have no divine credential from God, the Bible prophecies or the Bible testimony. (Romans 10:13-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20).
Terrarrica, the messages I was sharing with you is not my own ideas, it came from the Holy Scriptures…. without the so called genuine preachers of God, we could not able to understand the Holy Scriptures by ourselves alone.
There must be somebody truly sent by God, to preach the gospel (Romans 10:13-15, 17)
and God, was already placed in the Holy Scriptures the knowledge of truth about it…. how to distinguish the genuine preachers and also how to distinguish the false one?
Study your beliefs very carefully.
Who teach you that besides the Father, Jesus Christ is also truly God?
Who have preaching you that we do not need to join with a certain christian group of people (the church) with whom having the genuine prophecies of the Bible?
If you really believing with the Bible, you must accept that the chosen people of God, could be found in one body (church) whom the head is Christ Jesus. …with one spirit (doctrines), one God, one Lord, one baptism, one organization under the administration from God. Members in particular.
As what the Bible said: “Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.” (1 Cor. 12:27 RSV)
The Bible said, we must be individually member of the body of Christ, the church. (Col 1:18 NKJV).
We should not be separated from the body of Christ, or else we could be declared that we are not in the fellowship of Christ Jesus, and there is no salvation outside the church.
Because Jesus Christ, is the savior of the church.
Here is the very strong testimony of the Bible concerning the church: “
23. For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body. (Ephessians 5:23 TEV)
Christ is the Savior of the church, therefore we must inside the body of Christ, the church.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 15 2012,15:28) Lmj Sins the invention of the printing machine the message of God as made more round trips around the world than You have years,only God sees the heart and so help all who are living in truth,no men can do that
Terrarrica,Yes, I agree with you. God, seeing the heart of every man,…. but God, has His own ways how the gospel reaching the people?
God, honoring the unique pattern He hath made of….the preachers to be must be with the written prophecies,… to back-up that they were having the genuine divine credential from God.
The prophecies for the true preacher has been made before he was born. We should not look for the name or names, but for the divine works or assignments to be done.
Look around us, is there a missionary works for Christ, flourishing nowadays,… triumphs after triumphs like the sea waves?
Is there a missionary works for Christ globally, having the testimony of the Bible?
Is there a church nowadays, with uniform/unity in doctrines growing rapidly throughout the world?
Because the Bible said, before the end will come, there shall be a global missionary works for Christ. As what it was written in Matthew 24:14 NKJV.
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Reading the Bible by ourselves alone is not the means of God, to attain the true knowledge of Him. God, is honoring His own ways,.. He had made a unique pattern how the true gospel reaching the people He shall be called for the fellowship of Christ. Through the true messenger/s of God, we could be guided to know the truth
There are thousands of the Bible versions scattered throughout the world and we really do not know which of them having the real translations. Only God, the real author of His books could determine which is the right translation through His foretold messengers to be in our time, with the back-up of the written prophecies; The true preachers of the words of God, can guide us to learn the truth about God Till then and
God bless you.
As what the Bible said: “Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.” (1 Cor. 12:27 RSV)
The Bible said, we must be individually member of the body of Christ, the church. (Col 1:18 NKJV).
We should not be separated from the body of Christ, or else we could be declared that we are not in the fellowship of Christ Jesus, and there is no salvation outside the church.
Because Jesus Christ, is the savior of the church.
Here is the very strong testimony of the Bible concerning the church: “
23. For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body. (Ephessians 5:23 TEV)
Christ is the Savior of the church, therefore we must inside the body of Christ, the church.
For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body.(Ephessians 5:23 TEV)
Christ is the Savior of the church, therefore we must inside the body of Christ, the church.
As what the Holy Scriptures testimony (the spirit of the prophecy). The one and only true God, has His sons and daughters at the ends of the earth. They shall be called in the name made by God, for His glory
6. I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth 7. Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him.”
6. I will tell the north: Give my people to me. I will tell the south: Don’t keep my people in prison. Bring my sons and daughters to me from the faraway places. 7. Bring to me all the people who are mine—the people who have my name. I made them for myself. I made them, and they are mine.
(Isaiah 43:6-7 NKJV/ERV)
9. So God raised him up to the most important place
and gave him the name that is greater than any other name.9 Therefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name,
10 be it known unto you all and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified and whom God raised from the dead, even by Him doth this man stand here before you whole.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”
13 These things I have written unto you that believe in the name of the Son of God,that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe in the name of the Son of God.
Ref: 1 John 5:13 NKJV
Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him.”
Isaiah 43:7 NKJV
11.And now I am coming to you; I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world.Holy Father! Keep them safe by the power of your name, the name you gave me,so that they may be one just as you and I are one.
Ref: John 17:11 NKJV
limjunus it is true that we must be in the Church, the Body of Christ.
What is it though. A denomination? No.
It is a temple made up of living stones.Therefore, we do not go to Church, rather, we are the Church because we are the stones filled with the spirit of God.
And yes fellowship is very important just as these stones are fitted together by the master craftsman. Even Jesus said, (going by memory) I pray Father that they would be one with each other just as I am one with you. (something like that).
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