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Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,14:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2012,10:26) Hi David. The proof is in the puddding; Limjunus has much to say about the scriptures, but failed to answer my simple questions.
He is just one of those loud christians,but empty.
An empty barrel always sounds louder.wakeup.
Wakeup,What is your question that I did not answer? Bring it out, I will answer it point blank and return you must answer mine either.
LImjunus.IS THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS AND ALLAH, THE GOD
OF THE MUSLEMS; THE SAME GOD?Just a yes or no please.
wakeup.
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,15:31) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:21) LIMJ Quote What the best and important to do now is, to throw out your “big ego” (too much pride) and surrender to the will of God. I understand that you have no ego or pride left in you ,your preachers have taken it all ,you have nothing left in you worthy to be taken so they use you as a advertizing board, SERVING THEM ,THEIR INTEREST,MEN'S VIEWS,and NO I WILL NOT SURENDER TO THOSE MEN OR ANY MEN BUT MY CREATOR AND HIS SON AND THAT HIS THE TRUTH .
Dear Terraricca,You are right. all my pride or egoistic I already surrendered with the truths of God.
But how about you? You still clinging with your ego and pride.
You still holding your own thoughts against the thoughts of God.
I will repeat, it is not my own teaching. You can read it again, it wont be erased, it still in the Bible.
Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God.
Do not fight against the messages of God, written in the book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
Do not fight against the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul and Barnabas.
Peace.
this is not true.
you are a false teacher boy LOL
you are just pretending to be a messenger of GOD LOLyou preach that christ is not GOD but the bible says he is GOD.
why do you preach boy? LOL
Limjunus.
You have broken your word already,and so soon.
You promised to answer all questions?
And I have been patient for a while now; waiting.??Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,10:31) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:21) LIMJ Quote What the best and important to do now is, to throw out your “big ego” (too much pride) and surrender to the will of God. I understand that you have no ego or pride left in you ,your preachers have taken it all ,you have nothing left in you worthy to be taken so they use you as a advertizing board, SERVING THEM ,THEIR INTEREST,MEN'S VIEWS,and NO I WILL NOT SURENDER TO THOSE MEN OR ANY MEN BUT MY CREATOR AND HIS SON AND THAT HIS THE TRUTH .
Dear Terraricca,You are right. all my pride or egoistic I already surrendered with the truths of God.
But how about you? You still clinging with your ego and pride.
You still holding your own thoughts against the thoughts of God.
I will repeat, it is not my own teaching. You can read it again, it wont be erased, it still in the Bible.
Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God.
Do not fight against the messages of God, written in the book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
Do not fight against the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul and Barnabas.
Peace.
limjjust because men as convinced you in their own views ,does it as to be with me the same ,
your scriptures you quoted do not even support your way of interpretation ,
you have not even show one truth in scriptures that allow me to see truth in you or on the site you have advertized for so long,
limj
Quote Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God. show me that I ever say that ,or I will call you a liar ,to all even God and Christ ,this will prove to all that you are not a MESSENGER OF GOD ,because any messenger does not lie???
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2012,16:18) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,14:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2012,10:26) Hi David. The proof is in the puddding; Limjunus has much to say about the scriptures, but failed to answer my simple questions.
He is just one of those loud christians,but empty.
An empty barrel always sounds louder.wakeup.
Wakeup,What is your question that I did not answer? Bring it out, I will answer it point blank and return you must answer mine either.
LImjunus.IS THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS AND ALLAH, THE GOD
OF THE MUSLEMS; THE SAME GOD?Just a yes or no please.
wakeup.
Wakeup,Do not limit my hands if you want me to answer your question.
It could not be answer by Yes or No because I have other belief and we could not hold the same ideas.
The true believers of Christ Jesus and Jesus himself has their own recognized God, only true God and no more. The Father of Christ Jesus.
Muslim did not recognized Christ Jesus as the son of God; therefore they do not believe that the only true God has been introduced by Christ Jesus as his Father and God, shall not be the God of Islam. Islam belief, A'llah has no son called Jesus Christ.
Other so called christian has their own recognized god; some compose of 3 in one god; some only two;
Therefore my answer is not the same.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2012,12:55) limj Quote Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God. show me that I ever say that ,or I will call you a liar ,to all even God and Christ ,this will prove to all that you are not a MESSENGER OF GOD ,because any messenger does not lie???
Dear Terraricca,I have based my comprehension with your posts. ” You have said that “there is the Bible” and the Bible is the one given the truth to all the people around the world”. You got your knowledge from reading it. So, you just relying by reading the Bible.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2012,12:51) you have not even show one truth in scriptures that allow me to see truth …”
Dear Terraricca,Why your heart forcing you to post a lie?
Do you mean the Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 is not the truth?
Do you mean the Book of Isaiah 8:20 is not the truth of God?
Do you mean the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and Apostles Paul are not the truth of God?
Come on my dear Terraricca, … do not make your heart so very hard like a diamond.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2012,09:29) Limjunus. You have broken your word already,and so soon.
You promised to answer all questions?
And I have been patient for a while now; waiting.??
Wakeup,Relax. I have very important other matters to attend too.
If I had promised I will,.. I will but not asap.
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 08 2012,11:10) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2012,12:51) you have not even show one truth in scriptures that allow me to see truth …”
Dear Terraricca,Why your heart forcing you to post a lie?
Do you mean the Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 is not the truth?
Do you mean the Book of Isaiah 8:20 is not the truth of God?
Do you mean the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and Apostles Paul are not the truth of God?
Come on my dear Terraricca, … do not make your heart so very hard like a diamond.
LimjIs the book to the Hebrew not in the bible
If so why do you think I have not read it???Wen a person read the scriptures with a pure heart God spirit will guide him,if God or Christ does not help you ,No Men can
Limj
remember Jesus said God his a spirit and so we must worship him in spirit and truth,
I do not see we're Jesus say to go to a messenger.
Do you Quote (jammin @ Nov. 06 2012,01:48) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 05 2012,15:31) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:21) LIMJ Quote What the best and important to do now is, to throw out your “big ego” (too much pride) and surrender to the will of God. I understand that you have no ego or pride left in you ,your preachers have taken it all ,you have nothing left in you worthy to be taken so they use you as a advertizing board, SERVING THEM ,THEIR INTEREST,MEN'S VIEWS,and NO I WILL NOT SURENDER TO THOSE MEN OR ANY MEN BUT MY CREATOR AND HIS SON AND THAT HIS THE TRUTH .
Dear Terraricca,You are right. all my pride or egoistic I already surrendered with the truths of God.
But how about you? You still clinging with your ego and pride.
You still holding your own thoughts against the thoughts of God.
I will repeat, it is not my own teaching. You can read it again, it wont be erased, it still in the Bible.
Throw your belief that everybody can attain the salvation by only reading the Bible, it is against the will of God.
Do not fight against the messages of God, written in the book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
Do not fight against the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles Paul and Barnabas.
Peace.
this is not true.
you are a false teacher boy LOL
you are just pretending to be a messenger of GOD LOLyou preach that christ is not GOD but the bible says he is GOD.
why do you preach boy? LOL
Jammin,You are in the wrong thread. Go back to your own thread. I was finished with you. “kiddie boy.
Do you know how to read the thread jammin? read it again may be you lost your path.?
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2012,16:23) Limj remember Jesus said God his a spirit and so we must worship him in spirit and truth,
I do not see we're Jesus say to go to a messenger. Do you
Dear Terraricca,Please, you are old enough to know the thread issue.
We are not discussing yet who will shall be worshiped? we are with the thread of the “MESSENGERS OF GOD”.
What we are talking about is, “how we could hear the words of God?
The Sacred Scriptures said the instruction very clearly. Read the Book of Romans Chapter 10 and verses 14-15, 17 and the Book of Isaiah 8:20 King James Version.
The context is telling us about “hearing the words of God.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2012,16:23) Limj remember Jesus said God his a spirit and so we must worship him in spirit and truth,
I do not see we're Jesus say to go to a messenger. Do you
Dear Terraricca,Here is some of the Scared Scriptures saying. You can add it in your mind.
We are talking about “hearing the words of God”.
16.He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” Luke 10:16 NKJV
8As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
34For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.. John 3:34 / John 17:18 / John 6:29
If anyone do not listen to the messenger of God, he/she will not the words of God.
38. But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. John 5:38 NKJV.
I have told you in the first place. It is not my own doctrines and I did not announce that I am a messenger of God. All my knowing is from the messengers of God, whom they have teach me about the truth of God.
Peace.
To all:
29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
34For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.. .
Firstly. We must be sure that the one claiming that he is spokesman (preacher) in behalf of God, must be having the divine credential made and issued to them by God, …. the testimonies of the Bible prophesies. Romans 10:14-15, 17 / Isaiah 8:20
19Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22Then they said to him, “Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?” 23He said: “I am 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Make straight the way of the LORD,”' as the prophet Isaiah said.” (John 1:1923 NKJV)
The prophesied written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah concerning the Chapter 40:verse 3 has been fulfilled to John the Baptist. How about the remaining prophesied? So, we need to watch again and find out who are the people suited for the Prophet Isaiah prophesied? Here is another event. Assuming that were inside and standing inside the synagogue. A man entered and he begun to do his acts.
14Then Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and news of Him went out through all the surrounding region. 15And He taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. 16So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written: 18″The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; 19To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.” 20Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” (Luke 13-21 NKJV)
The same with John the Baptist. The man entered inside the Synagogue, name Jesus, claimed the the Chapter 61: verses 1-3 of the Book of Prophet Isaiah has been fulfilled to Christ Jesus.
How about the remaining prophesied, to whom it shall be fulfilled? Okay, do not be rushed, let us go to the time of the Apostles. We will listen watch and observe which the remaining prophesied be fulfilled to whom? Here is the event and Christ Jesus was already ascended to heaven.
46. Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47. For so the Lord has commanded us: 'I have set you as a light to the Gentiles, That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.'
17. I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, 18. to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.' (Acts 13:46-47, 26:17-18 NKJV)
The same with John the Baptist, Christ Jesus, Apostle Paul claiming the prophesied written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah, Chapter 49: verse 6, has been fulfilled with Paul and Barnabas.
All of the testimonies concerning the true messengers of God, has been written before they could be born. The divine credentials specially made by God, and it was the unique pattern of God, to justified that the preachers of the words of God, were really sent by Him. God, honored it and order to prophet Isaiah to jot it down for the record in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 8: verse 20. Here is what we can be read.
20To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
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God bless you all.
To all:
Who's talking to much
but could not present his/her divine credential from the Bible made and have issued to her/him by God?. …. or ….. show your teachers/Pastors/ministers/preachers's divine credential from the Bible; especially made and issued to them by God?
If your teachers/Pastors/founders/Ministers and preachers having not the divine credential as their proofs as the true messengers of God,… do not waste your precious time with them. Go and walk away from them and look for the true one.
TO THE ADMIN OR MODERATOR.
This is the second time. I am kindly requesting you to give me an access for the “editing” system. I could not edit my post due to no “access” for editing.
Thank you very much.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2012,19:16) limjunus. What about my question?
Is the God of the christians, the same as allah of the muslems?
Wakeup,You over looked my respond?
Browses the thread I just answered it while ago.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2012,16:19) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 08 2012,11:10) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2012,12:51) you have not even show one truth in scriptures that allow me to see truth …”
Dear Terraricca,Why your heart forcing you to post a lie?
Do you mean the Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 is not the truth?
Do you mean the Book of Isaiah 8:20 is not the truth of God?
Do you mean the testimonies of John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and Apostles Paul are not the truth of God?
Come on my dear Terraricca, … do not make your heart so very hard like a diamond.
LimjIs the book to the Hebrew not in the bible
If so why do you think I have not read it???Wen a person read the scriptures with a pure heart God spirit will guide him,if God or Christ does not help you ,No Men can
Dear Terraricca,Where can I read in Hebrews Book that
“Wen a person read the scriptures with a pure heart God spirit will guide him,….”?
You are placing the dangerous preceding in seeking the true meaning of the words of God. God, did not says it or He hath ordered to write it in the book of Hebrews.
God, hath ordered Apostle Paul to write in his book of Romans Chapter 10:14-15, verse 17, that by the preaching of the true messengers of God, we can obtain the fundamental know how and we can reach the knowledge of the truth, because the messengers of God, has been guided by the spirit of God.
We can obtain also the rightful faith through hearing of the words of God, preach by His messengers.
The Bible did not says that by only reading the Bible with a pure heart, then the concern reader will be guided by the spirit of God, to reach the knowledge of the truth.
Do you have your proof to sustain your argument? Bring it here, post it here so that we can read it.
Peace.
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