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- October 31, 2012 at 8:23 am#352125Ed JParticipant
Hi limjunus,
I believe we're all welcoming you to share with us what you have learned from them.
But all we've seen so far is your attempt at making organizational aggrandizement.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 31, 2012 at 8:29 am#352126Ed JParticipantHi limjunus,
Is that really all you intend this thread to be about?
Non a (teaching) comparison between “THE MESS-
ENGERS OF GOD” and The true preachers of God?“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” (Prophets Apostles)
The true preachers of God (Evangelists Pastors)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 31, 2012 at 1:44 pm#352127terrariccaParticipant]limj
Quote Terraricca, Here we go again. Read it carefully and do your best to understand it well.
14. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?
15. And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
17. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The very messages from the Scared Scriptures is vividly clear. It doesn't said that the above post phrases were merely for a limited time. It is applicable from generation to generations, up to our generations.
How can you call the Lord, if you not believing on Him, but before you can have believe you must hear the words of God, .. and how can you heard the words of God, if there is no preacher sent by God? Faith comes from hearing the words of God, through and from the preacher by God.
How can you be a preacher sent by God, if you have none the written prophesies as your divine credential and testimony for being the true preacher of God? (Ref: Isaiah 8:20 NKJV)
May the Lord God open the eyes of your heart and let the shining truth comes to your mind.
Peace.
Ro 10:15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”
Ro 10:16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?”
Ro 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.
Ro 10:18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:
“Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.”what preaching is Paul talking about that ” their voice has gone out into ALL THE EARTH”
Ro 10:20 And Isaiah boldly says,
“I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.”
Ro 10:21 But concerning Israel he says,
“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”OF WHOM DO PAUL SPEAK OF
Isa 8:17 I will wait for the LORD,
who is hiding his face from the house of Jacob.
I will put my trust in him.
Isa 8:18 Here am I, and the children the LORD has given me. We are signs and symbols in Israel from the LORD Almighty, who dwells on Mount Zion.
Isa 8:19 When men tell you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.
Isa 8:21 Distressed and hungry, they will roam through the land; when they are famished, they will become enraged and, looking upward, will curse their king and their God.
Isa 8:22 Then they will look toward the earth and see only distress and darkness and fearful gloom, and they will be thrust into utter darkness.IT SEEMS TO ME YOU PICK ONLY THE WORDS YOU LIKE IN SCRIPTURES BELIEVING THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE TRUE OVER ALL OTHERS ,BUT THEY ARE MEANINGLESS WITHOUT THE OTHERS
YOU DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING SO TRY AGAIN
October 31, 2012 at 2:11 pm#352128davidParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,19:29) Hi limjunus, Is that really all you intend this thread to be about?
Non a (teaching) comparison between “THE MESS-
ENGERS OF GOD” and The true preachers of God?“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” (Prophets Apostles)
The true preachers of God (Evangelists Pastors)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Is this what he has been trying to say?Is that what you have been trying to say?
October 31, 2012 at 2:15 pm#352129davidParticipantQuote Here we go again. Read it carefully and do your best to understand it well. 14. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?
15. And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
17. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The very messages from the Scared Scriptures is vividly clear. It doesn't said that the above post phrases were merely for a limited time. It is applicable from generation to generations, up to our generations.
How can you call the Lord, if you not believing on Him, but before you can have believe you must hear the words of God, .. and how can you heard the words of God, if there is no preacher sent by God? Faith comes from hearing the words of God, through and from the preacher by God.
How can you be a preacher sent by God, if you have none the written prophesies as your divine credential and testimony for being the true preacher of God? (Ref: Isaiah 8:20 NKJV)
I think it makes sense for you to LIST some of the credentials that they are speaking of.
October 31, 2012 at 4:20 pm#352130terrariccaParticipant]limj
Rom;10;17. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
Jas 1:14 but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.
Jas 1:16 Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers.
Jas 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.Jas 1:22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.
Jas 1:23 Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror
Jas 1:24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.
Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.you should read more and do much more of what you read
November 1, 2012 at 5:44 am#352131limjunusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,18:59) Hi limjunus, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1Tim.2:5)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,So what is your point with 1 Tim. 2:5?
November 1, 2012 at 5:56 am#352132limjunusParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,01:11) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,19:29) Hi limjunus, Is that really all you intend this thread to be about?
Non a (teaching) comparison between “THE MESS-
ENGERS OF GOD” and The true preachers of God?“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” (Prophets Apostles)
The true preachers of God (Evangelists Pastors)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Is this what he has been trying to say?Is that what you have been trying to say?
Dear David,Before the people can go on with the so called preacher of God's words, firstly he “must” prove in the light of the Bible that he is the true preacher sent by God.
As and for being careful in seeking the truth of God, you “must be sure” that the preacher you are dealing is the genuine teacher of the gospel of Christ.
As we have aware there were many-many false preachers going around the world and cheating many-many people all over the world.
If you are careful in buying the medicines, … you “must know” which is genuine and not or else you just wasting your money and your sickness would be worsening instead of curing it. …the same of buying the truth.
Peace.
November 1, 2012 at 6:08 am#352133limjunusParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,01:15) Quote Here we go again. Read it carefully and do your best to understand it well. 14. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?
15. And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
17. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The very messages from the Scared Scriptures is vividly clear. It doesn't said that the above post phrases were merely for a limited time. It is applicable from generation to generations, up to our generations.
How can you call the Lord, if you not believing on Him, but before you can have believe you must hear the words of God, .. and how can you heard the words of God, if there is no preacher sent by God? Faith comes from hearing the words of God, through and from the preacher by God.
How can you be a preacher sent by God, if you have none the written prophesies as your divine credential and testimony for being the true preacher of God? (Ref: Isaiah 8:20 NKJV)
I think it makes sense for you to LIST some of the credentials that they are speaking of.
Dear david,It is not the list to preach. The very important method in facing the so called preacher of God's words, is the “divine credential” duly certified by the Bible.
Dear David,
Before the people can go on with the so called preacher of God's words, firstly he “must” prove in the light of the Bible that he is the true preacher sent by God.
As and for being careful in seeking the truth of God, you “must be sure” that the preacher you are dealing is the genuine teacher of the gospel of Christ.
As we have aware there were many-many false preachers going around the world and cheating many-many people all over the world.
If you are really careful in buying the medicines for your illness, … you “must know” which is genuine and not or else you just wasting your money and your sickness would be worsening than before instead of curing it. …the same method of hearing the gospel of Christ or the truth.
I am doing my very best in sharing with you guys “the knowledge” from the Sacred Scriptures, had been taught by the genuine messenger of God, how to distinguish the true teacher sent by God and the false teacher sent by the devil.
If you have the same knowledge as mine, bring it out here and let us compare which one is the authentic one?
November 1, 2012 at 6:13 am#352134limjunusParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 01 2012,03:20) ]limj Rom;10;17. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
Jas 1:14 but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.
Jas 1:16 Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers.
Jas 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.Jas 1:22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.
Jas 1:23 Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror
Jas 1:24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.
Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.you should read more and do much more of what you read
Dear Terraricca,It is not the list of doctrines to be the based of determining the true preacher.
The very important method in facing the so called preacher of God's words, is the “divine credential” duly certified by the Bible.
Before the people can go on with the so called preacher of God's words, firstly he “must” prove in the light of the Bible that he is the true preacher sent by God.
As and for being careful in seeking the truth of God, you “must be sure” that the preacher you are dealing is the genuine teacher of the gospel of Christ.
As we have aware there were many-many false preachers going around the world and cheating many-many people all over the world.
If you are really careful in buying the medicines for your illness, … you “must know” which is genuine and not or else you just wasting your money and your sickness would be worsening than before instead of curing it. …the same method of hearing the gospel of Christ or the truth.
I am doing my very best in sharing with you guys “the knowledge” from the Sacred Scriptures, had been taught by the genuine messenger of God, how to distinguish the true teacher sent by God and the false teacher sent by the devil.
If you have the same knowledge as mine, bring it out here and let us compare which one is the authentic one?.
November 1, 2012 at 6:19 am#352135davidParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 01 2012,16:56) Quote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,01:11) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,19:29) Hi limjunus, Is that really all you intend this thread to be about?
Non a (teaching) comparison between “THE MESS-
ENGERS OF GOD” and The true preachers of God?“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” (Prophets Apostles)
The true preachers of God (Evangelists Pastors)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Is this what he has been trying to say?Is that what you have been trying to say?
Dear David,Before the people can go on with the so called preacher of God's words, firstly he “must” prove in the light of the Bible that he is the true preacher sent by God.
As and for being careful in seeking the truth of God, you “must be sure” that the preacher you are dealing is the genuine teacher of the gospel of Christ.
As we have aware there were many-many false preachers going around the world and cheating many-many people all over the world.
If you are careful in buying the medicines, … you “must know” which is genuine and not or else you just wasting your money and your sickness would be worsening instead of curing it. …the same of buying the truth.
Peace.
limjunis,You have this great habit of telling me things I already know, and believe, while completely ignoring things I don't know but want to know.
What I have asked to know, that I don't already know is:
What do you believe the credentials are to distinguish between the “weeds” of Jesus parable, and the “wheat”?
November 1, 2012 at 6:27 am#352136davidParticipantQuote Dear david, It is not the list to preach. The very important method in facing the so called preacher of God's words, is the “divine credential” duly certified by the Bible.
And what is this “divine credential”? Can you just tell us?
Quote I am doing my very best in sharing with you guys “the knowledge” from the Sacred Scriptures, had been taught by the genuine messenger of God, how to distinguish the true teacher sent by God and the false teacher sent by the devil. If you have the same knowledge as mine, bring it out here and let us compare which one is the authentic one?
I am starting to wonder how well you speak English. It is ok, and it seems it is not your first language. I noticed that you have been copying and pasting the same comments in some of your thread, which no doubt saves a lot of time.
November 1, 2012 at 6:42 am#352137limjunusParticipantIt is not the complete list of the fundamental doctrine of the preacher to be used as a tool to distinguish the true and the false teacher.
The very important method in facing the so called preacher of God's words, is the “divine credential he shall be presented” duly certified by the Bible.
November 1, 2012 at 6:44 am#352138davidParticipant“The very important method in facing the so called preacher of God's words, is the “divine credential he shall be presented” duly certified by the Bible.”
Can we see the divine credential then?
November 1, 2012 at 6:44 am#352139davidParticipantQuote It is not the complete list of the fundamental doctrine of the preacher to be used as a tool to distinguish the true and the false teacher. If a person teaches false things, would this not make them a false teacher?
November 1, 2012 at 6:47 am#352140limjunusParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,17:27) And what is this “divine credential”? Can you just tell us?
Dear david,You should start reading the issue from the beginning till the last to save my time and to prevent me in doing it again.
November 1, 2012 at 6:53 am#352141limjunusParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,17:27) Quote Dear david, It is not the list to preach. The very important method in facing the so called preacher of God's words, is the “divine credential” duly certified by the Bible.
And what is this “divine credential”? Can you just tell us?
Quote I am doing my very best in sharing with you guys “the knowledge” from the Sacred Scriptures, had been taught by the genuine messenger of God, how to distinguish the true teacher sent by God and the false teacher sent by the devil. If you have the same knowledge as mine, bring it out here and let us compare which one is the authentic one?
I am starting to wonder how well you speak English. It is ok, and it seems it is not your first language. I noticed that you have been copying and pasting the same comments in some of your thread, which no doubt saves a lot of time.
Dear david,You are right, by saying that the “English language is not my mother tongue” (it is a foreign language) and I am not very good in constructing it, but I am doing my utmost best.
English is not my favorite subject in the school. But if you having difficulty in reading my posts, just ask me, then I can explain what is I really mean of it.
November 1, 2012 at 6:56 am#352142limjunusParticipantIf you have the same knowledge or ways in determining the false and true preacher as what I had posts in the beginning, bring it out here and let us compare which one is the authentic one duly supported by the Bible?.
November 1, 2012 at 7:15 am#352143limjunusParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,17:44) Quote It is not the complete list of the fundamental doctrine of the preacher to be used as a tool to distinguish the true and the false teacher. If a person teaches false things, would this not make them a false teacher?
Dear david,The preacher teaching the false things?
How could you know and pin-point the false things if you do not heard the truth from the true preacher?
Please, do not drag away the issue. The issue is how to distinguish the false preachers?
God, has the special pattern and it was written in the Bible how we could distinguish the true preacher sent by Him.
and even though you had an ability to know some of the false things, it does not mean you have known exactly who is the true preacher sent by God, in the middle of the false preachers?
If you need the clarification about this post, please do not hesitate to ask me.
November 1, 2012 at 7:35 am#352144limjunusParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,17:19) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 01 2012,16:56) Quote (david @ Nov. 01 2012,01:11) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 31 2012,19:29) Hi limjunus, Is that really all you intend this thread to be about?
Non a (teaching) comparison between “THE MESS-
ENGERS OF GOD” and The true preachers of God?“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” (Prophets Apostles)
The true preachers of God (Evangelists Pastors)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Is this what he has been trying to say?Is that what you have been trying to say?
Dear David,Before the people can go on with the so called preacher of God's words, firstly he “must” prove in the light of the Bible that he is the true preacher sent by God.
As and for being careful in seeking the truth of God, you “must be sure” that the preacher you are dealing is the genuine teacher of the gospel of Christ.
As we have aware there were many-many false preachers going around the world and cheating many-many people all over the world.
If you are careful in buying the medicines, … you “must know” which is genuine and not or else you just wasting your money and your sickness would be worsening instead of curing it. …the same of buying the truth.
Peace.
limjunis,You have this great habit of telling me things I already know, and believe, while completely ignoring things I don't know but want to know.
What I have asked to know, that I don't already know is:
What do you believe the credentials are to distinguish between the “weeds” of Jesus parable, and the “wheat”?
Dear david,Again, you are having the habit of drawing the main matter to another matter.
The main issue is the “Planter” and not the plants to be planted.
You are dragging the main matter (true Planter and false planter) to the plants to be planted (weed and wheat).
As what we have learned, the seed (wheat) is the words of God to be planted to the mind of a person living in this world.
Planting, literally is “preaching the words of God” to the world.
The Planter of the weed is Satan, and the weed is the “doctrines of the devil and literally, the false preachers are the planters of the Devil.
The question is, how we could distinguish the true preacher sent by God and how we could determine the false preachers sent by Satan?
I have posting the special pattern made by God, to know which one is the true preacher and which one is the false preacher in the beginning and middle of this thread.
Surely you did not read, because if you have been reading it, you will not post this questions of yours.
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