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Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,16:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,09:53) Hi David, Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God
I would say these are two different things, what say you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I called you brother in Christ, even though we are not with us. Just for the courtesy of our discussion in Christ words, I am presuming even for a moment that you are my brother in Christ. .. and to avoid the mis-understanding, from now on I will address you as Mr. Ed J.
God bless you.
Hi limjunus,Have you changed your mind about me being your brother now?
Necessity dictates that I remind you of Jesus' words to John…
“he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:40)You are being like John was to the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 24 2012,18:38) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2012,21:46) Hi limjunus, Many here still do not yet realize that we are in “The Day of The LORD”.
What you're describing is the burning up of the rudiments. Good post!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
Ed j,Yeah. Sharing the true knowledge about what the truth about the present day.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orglimj
Quote Dear Terraricca, How could I post my objection, you did not include your understanding the verses you have quoted and you have no clear conclusion of your own with the verses.
Post your conclusion specifically in relation the verses you had quoted, likening the way I had did.
One verse or more but you must be given your own understanding so that I could object or not.
You have visited already the link I had given or posting here and you are not happy with it and gave your conclusion straightly without any hesitation that they just doing the cheating, deceptions?
Why they have different approach compare's to mine? but at the end you are saying that we were in deceptions style?
So, it is beyond with my conceptions and you have the full freedom to judge for yourself in terms of seeking the truth.
Objection with your phrases:
How you could commit your heart and mind to God and to Christ Jesus, if you are not accepting the truth of God, that you must hear His words from His authenticated messengers with D.I.D.?You are just relying with yourself and ignoring the good news brought to you by someone already heard the gospel from the true preachers of God.
Do not let the words of God, will works against you. Like what God, said in the Book of Romans 10:3 NKJV.
“For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.”
Peace my dear Terraricca.
Back to topI have answer you with scriptures but it seems you do not see ,what is working against you in scriptures,
you try to show that you are a messenger of God but to be true according to Isa;8 this his the son of God called Jesus Christ,
it is HE that has given us the message that has to be preached to all men ,but you do not take that as truth ,
and so deny that there is another messenger today of God ,;
1Jn 2:7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard.
1Jn 2:8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.
1Jn 2:9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.
1Jn 2:10 Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble.
1Jn 2:11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded him.
1Jn 2:12 I write to you, dear children,
because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
1Jn 2:13 I write to you, fathers,
because you have known him who is from the beginning.1Jn 2:21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.
1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
1Jn 2:24 See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.
1Jn 2:25 And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.SO BASED ON THOSE SCRIPTURES YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS REPLACED CHRIST AND SO REJECTED THE SON OF GOD AS THE TRUE MESSENGER
limj
Isa 8:13 The LORD Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy,
he is the one you are to fear,
he is the one you are to dread,
Isa 8:14 and he will be a sanctuary;
but for both houses of Israel he will be
a stone that causes men to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall.
And for the people of Jerusalem he will be
a trap and a snare.
Isa 8:15 Many of them will stumble;
they will fall and be broken,
they will be snared and captured.”Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony
and seal up the law among my disciples.
Isa 8:17 I will wait for the LORD,
who is hiding his face from the house of Jacob.
I will put my trust in him.Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.
Rev 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.Quote Where is your very strong evidence that the messenger of God at the ends of the earth is hiding the name of God? –limjunis
I assume you believe you are a messenger of God. If I am wrong on this, let me know.
My evidence:
In this thread, you (a messenger of God) have quoted from a Bible, where the word “LORD” has replaced Gods name. I've seen that “LORD” used rather than Gods name about 100 times in your posts.The original writers of the Bible did not hide the fact that God has a name. They used Gods name about 7000 times!!!
THUS FAR, you have quoted from a Bible that took 100 of those 7000 times, and replaced the Tetragrammaton with the title “LORD.”
Do you think is honours or dishonours God? (I am not here to say that anything I believe is right, but only to discern if what you believe makes sense.).
Quote you have tried hearing the gospel from the true messenger of God? –limjunis
I have tried asking to hear what that message is, yes. But you want to focus on other things.
Quote Where is the Biblical evidences of your preacher/s? can you show it to me here? What do you mean? I am not here claiming that I am a true preacher or involved with true preachers. I only want to know if you are a true preacher, what are your thoughts on using Gods name?
Quote If your so called preachers with your congregation is having not the testimony of the Biblical prophesies for them. Therefore you are in the hands of the darkness and not in the hands of light. ( Book of Isaiah 8:20 NKJV) Agreed. So, we are both in darkness then?
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,18:51) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2012,17:39) Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2012,06:05) Quote The preacher to be of the gospel of Christ, must be having the authentication, certification and truly sent by God, (through the divine identification duly and specially made by God). And how do we know someone is truly sent by God?
How do we know you are sent by God?
David.That is exactly it,where is that preacher that preach the truth?
How can we decern if a preacher is telling the truth?
We can tell by comparing his sermon with the scriptures.
As I have said; they have all gone astray.wakeup.
David and wakeup,That is why I am very eagerly of inviting you to come forward with this link: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi
Forum:The Hot Seat
Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y371909
Then you will know how we can be sure that the preacher teaching the words of God, is really sent by God.
You are welcome Wakeup.
And David, even though he is already with the link but have failed to read the pots from the beginning to the last, that's why he had still have the questions.
Peace.
Hi. I have read most of your posts. THAT is when I noticed that “LORD” is everywhere where Gods name used to be.Quote The concerned to be messengers of God, shall be the one to claim the said prophesies as their divine credential to be presented to the people as what John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and Apostle Paul did in their times. If your preachers did not speak according to the law and testimony of the prophesies, there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.
Speaking of preachers and prophesies being fulfilled, there are other groups that would say: we are fulfilling bible prophesy:
MAT 24:14
“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.”But, which prophesies are you speaking of fulfilling?
Which prophesies are the COC fulfilling?limj
Quote Objection with your phrases:
How you could commit your heart and mind to God and to Christ Jesus, if you are not accepting the truth of God, that you must hear His words from His authenticated messengers with D.I.D.?You are just relying with yourself and ignoring the good news brought to you by someone already heard the gospel from the true preachers of God.
Do not let the words of God, will works against you. Like what God, said in the Book of Romans 10:3 NKJV.
“For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.”
you have my 16000 comments on this site ,could you please show me in wich one did I not say the truth of God
and sinse you are looking into it could you also mention some of what my ignorance ignored in them
of cause by doing that YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE CORRECT VIEW OF THAT TRUTH ,
IF YOU CAN NOT DO THAT ;THEN YOU ARE NOT THE ONE YOU CLAIM TO BE WHAT HIS ” A TRUE MESSENGER OF GOD ” AND SO NOT A TRUE PREACHER AND TEACHER .
IT IS NOW IN YOUR HANDS TO MAKE SEE TO ME WITH MY OWN EYES, OF CAUSE YOU COULD FIND A CLEVER WAY TO RUN AWAY ,LIKE MOST OF THE ………………
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,23:44) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,16:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,09:53) Hi David, Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God
I would say these are two different things, what say you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I called you brother in Christ, even though we are not with us. Just for the courtesy of our discussion in Christ words, I am presuming even for a moment that you are my brother in Christ. .. and to avoid the mis-understanding, from now on I will address you as Mr. Ed J.
God bless you.
Hi limjunus,Have you changed your mind about me being your brother now?
Necessity dictates that I remind you of Jesus' words to John…
“he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:40)You are being like John was to the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 24 2012,18:38) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2012,21:46) Hi limjunus, Many here still do not yet realize that we are in “The Day of The LORD”.
What you're describing is the burning up of the rudiments. Good post!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
Ed j,Yeah. Sharing the true knowledge about what the truth about the present day.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Mr. Ed J,You have missed the point again. I stop calling you my brother in Christ not because of John reporting to Jesus, but instead because you have asked me “who are my brothers in Christ, David, Ed J,?
Therefore, to avoid confusion, I decided not to call you my brother in Christ anymore.
You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.
Got the point.
Peace.
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,23:44) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,16:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,09:53) Hi David, Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God
I would say these are two different things, what say you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I called you brother in Christ, even though we are not with us. Just for the courtesy of our discussion in Christ words, I am presuming even for a moment that you are my brother in Christ. .. and to avoid the mis-understanding, from now on I will address you as Mr. Ed J.
God bless you.
Hi limjunus,Have you changed your mind about me being your brother now?
Necessity dictates that I remind you of Jesus' words to John…
“he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:40)You are being like John was to the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 24 2012,18:38) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2012,21:46) Hi limjunus, Many here still do not yet realize that we are in “The Day of The LORD”.
What you're describing is the burning up of the rudiments. Good post!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
Ed j,Yeah. Sharing the true knowledge about what the truth about the present day.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J,I will not force you to believe to what I have shared with you but I did not give an authority to branded me the negative concept.
I am encouraging you not to do an accusation to anybody here or else you had an obligation to prove it without reasonable doubt.
Now, where is your proofs to back up your accusation on me?
Peace.
To all,
Now, we have learned and have been proven through our posts that we really need the true preacher sent by God, as the common factor and to the basis to what we have concluded with regards to the words of God, written in the Bible versions.
Not everyone within us is having an authority to interpret rightfully the true meaning of the words of God, except if we have learned the true meaning of it from the genuine messenger of God.
So, the point and issue here now is to show the divine credential of your preacher/s duly supported by the Sacred Scriptures testimony or prophesies.
Do you have? bring it out now. If you do not have? It si better for you to study more and rigidly.
Peace.
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 26 2012,03:03) you try to show that you are a messenger of God but to be true according to Isa;8 this his the son of God called Jesus Christ,
Dear Terraricca,I did not said that I am proving to you that “I am the messenger of God.” you are missing my points.
There must be the messenger of God, in our times to preach and teach to us the words of Christ. (Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 NKJV)
and the preacher to be “must be having or accompany by the law (commandments) and the testimony or the prophesies written with Sacred Scriptures.
Anyone spoken to us not according to the above said requirements, shall be deemed “darkness or no light”. (no truth).
Please read it back.
Peace.
To all:
I did not said that I am proving to you that “I am the messenger of God.” you are missing my points.
There must be the messenger of God, in our times to preach and teach to us the words of Christ. (Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 NKJV)
and the preacher to be “must be having or accompany by the law (commandments) and the testimony or the prophesies written with Sacred Scriptures.
Anyone spoken to us not according to the above said requirements, shall be deemed “darkness or no light”. (no truth). (Isaiah 8:20 NKJV)
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,13:47) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,23:44) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,16:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,09:53) Hi David, Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God
I would say these are two different things, what say you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I called you brother in Christ, even though we are not with us. Just for the courtesy of our discussion in Christ words, I am presuming even for a moment that you are my brother in Christ. .. and to avoid the mis-understanding, from now on I will address you as Mr. Ed J.
God bless you.
Hi limjunus,Have you changed your mind about me being your brother now?
Necessity dictates that I remind you of Jesus' words to John…
“he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:40)You are being like John was to the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 24 2012,18:38) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2012,21:46) Hi limjunus, Many here still do not yet realize that we are in “The Day of The LORD”.
What you're describing is the burning up of the rudiments. Good post!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
Ed j,Yeah. Sharing the true knowledge about what the truth about the present day.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Mr. Ed J,You have missed the point again. I stop calling you my brother in Christ not because of John reporting to Jesus, but instead because you have asked me “who are my brothers in Christ, David, Ed J,?
Therefore, to avoid confusion, I decided not to call you my brother in Christ anymore.
You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.
Got the point.
Peace.
Hi limjunus,You have just proved my point, of why I made the comparison of you to Mark 9:38.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,14:06) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,23:44) Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 25 2012,16:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,09:53) Hi David, Topic: “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”, The true preachers of God
I would say these are two different things, what say you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,I called you brother in Christ, even though we are not with us. Just for the courtesy of our discussion in Christ words, I am presuming even for a moment that you are my brother in Christ. .. and to avoid the mis-understanding, from now on I will address you as Mr. Ed J.
God bless you.
Hi limjunus,Have you changed your mind about me being your brother now?
Necessity dictates that I remind you of Jesus' words to John…
“he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:40)You are being like John was to the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 24 2012,18:38) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2012,21:46) Hi limjunus, Many here still do not yet realize that we are in “The Day of The LORD”.
What you're describing is the burning up of the rudiments. Good post!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
Ed j,Yeah. Sharing the true knowledge about what the truth about the present day.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J,I will not force you to believe to what I have shared with you but I did not give an authority to branded me the negative concept.
I am encouraging you not to do an accusation to anybody here or else you had an obligation to prove it without reasonable doubt.
Now, where is your proofs to back up your accusation on me?
Peace.
What accusation? – And – what doyou mean by… 'I did not give an authority'
Are you supposing yourself to be in authority over me?
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,09:29) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 26 2012,03:03) you try to show that you are a messenger of God but to be true according to Isa;8 this his the son of God called Jesus Christ,
Dear Terraricca,I did not said that I am proving to you that “I am the messenger of God.” you are missing my points.
There must be the messenger of God, in our times to preach and teach to us the words of Christ. (Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 NKJV)
and the preacher to be “must be having or accompany by the law (commandments) and the testimony or the prophesies written with Sacred Scriptures.
Anyone spoken to us not according to the above said requirements, shall be deemed “darkness or no light”. (no truth).
Please read it back.
Peace.
LmjWhy are you not reading back and answer my quotes with all the question
Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,09:29) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 26 2012,03:03) you try to show that you are a messenger of God but to be true according to Isa;8 this his the son of God called Jesus Christ,
Dear Terraricca,I did not said that I am proving to you that “I am the messenger of God.” you are missing my points.
There must be the messenger of God, in our times to preach and teach to us the words of Christ. (Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17 NKJV)
and the preacher to be “must be having or accompany by the law (commandments) and the testimony or the prophesies written with Sacred Scriptures.
Anyone spoken to us not according to the above said requirements, shall be deemed “darkness or no light”. (no truth).
Please read it back.
Peace.
LimjYou statement that there should be a true messenger today is true,but the one you preach his the wrong one, the scriptures his the true messenger ,interpretation does not come from men but from
God,but you have first to believe that,Quote You are just relying with yourself and ignoring the good news brought to you by someone [limjunis] already heard the gospel from the true preachers of God. Limjunis: tell me the good news right now. Please tell me what the good news is. Thus far, you haven't actually said anything. Please tell me something, anything. What does the future hold? What happens to bad people? What happens to good people?
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