THE MESSENGERS OF GOD

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We have learned from being the observers in the place and time of the Patriarch and Prophets, through our visionary minds, utilizing it as our modern time machine, that our Creator, the Almighty God, is communicating directly to the selected concern persons, through His prophets and the written books of the covenants.
I am right or wrong? Do you have any comments?

–Limjunis

That depends. What do you mean by “communicating directly to the selected concern persons, through His prophets.”?

Are you saying that God is using people (his prophets) to preach about his kingdom?

Dear David,

You have missed the point again. It is during the time of the Patriarch and the Prophets (B.C.) not in the time of Christ Jesus (A.D.)

I am very much appreciated with your respond and please continue reading my posts.

Thank you.

October 24, 2012 at 7:41 am#351975

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Hi, limjunus.

David made the excellent point that those 'claiming' to be the true messengers of YHVH,
should at least know the name of him they are 'suppose' to be repenting. …which I agree.

Heb 6:18 say that there are “TWO” immutable things about YHVH.
If your group is indeed true messengers of YHVH, as you are claiming
them to be, then the answer should be simple enough? …so what is it?

So I ask again, what are these “TWO” immutable things about YHVH?

Please quit trying to duck the hard questions!

“That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for
God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled
for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:” (Heb 6:18)

1. He cannot Lie.
2. ? (please tell us what the other is)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

You and David had launched the very nice questions and by your own description, you have associated it with the main issue, “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”. believing that if the man you have addressing is not capable to answer rightfully and then you would lay down your own conclusion that he is not having the real messenger of God. I will prove to you now that you are in the midst of misconception.

I am not ducking and the questions are not so hard as you have thinking of?

David, I was told you in my previous post that I do not want to tackle your issue regarding the name of the Lord God. It is out topic. If you really want to discuss your issue, you should to open the thread of your own and I will do my best to participate with you about it.

Ed J, Here is the answer of the great teacher of all the teachers of God,to your question.

But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.” Mark 10:27 NKJV.

The verse you are holding and stand for “that it is impossible to the Almighty God, to lie” … does not meant, that the Almighty God, has the limitation.

You should have the consideration to the messages of the Holy Scriptures, like the passages written in the “Book of Mark 10:27”

…. and do your best to understand that not everyone has the rightful and the true knowledge about God. .. as what the scriptures testimony; to you has been given to understand the mystery of the kingdom of God, but to the outsiders, everything has been done in parables. (Mark 4:11 NLT)

The Almighty God, even though it was vividly written “that there is nothing impossible for Him, but with and by his own decree, He said, “it is impossible for me to lie” .. just to sealed his promises.

I am not the one answering you Ed J, … Christ Jesus the one have answered your question.

So, please could have your attention the main topic, “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD”?

Peace be with us.

I am not ducking, that is your only own thinking of and not mine.

Hi limjunus,

I like your answer!
I, however, suggest that
a more specific answer would be. …he cannot deny himself.

“If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” (2Tm.2:13)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

13. Even when we are too weak to have any faith left, he remains faithful to us and will help us, for he cannot disown us who are part of himself, and he will always carry out his promises to us.

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2-Tim. 2:13 Living Bible

Hi limjunus,

The question remains: who are YOU calling “us”?
Me, you David and others that are in Christ Jesus?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

October 24, 2012 at 8:57 am#351987

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Dear Terraricca,

Let us continue to what we have started. “THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” …. Part 3.

Recap: The same with John the Baptist, Christ Jesus, Apostle Paul claiming the prophesied written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah, Chapter 49: verse 6, has been fulfilled with Paul and Barnabas.

All of the testimonies concerning the true messengers of God, has been written before they could be born. The divine credentials specially made by God, and it was the unique pattern of God, to justified that the preachers of the words of God, were really sent by Him. God, honored it and order to prophet Isaiah to jot it down for the record in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 8: verse 20. and in the Book of Romans 10:14-15, 17) Here is what we can be read.

20. To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

14. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15. And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”

17. So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God..

Now, we have observed and had learned on our journey in the times of the Patriarch, Prophets and the Christian Era (A.D.) that the preacher of the words of God, must be sent (messenger) by God, … accompany by the law and the testimonies from the Holy Scriptures; the unique pattern as the divine credential from God, and made specially by God.

Summary:

From the times of the Patriarch and the Prophets, we could not tell exactly who are the concerned personalities has been prophesied as the messengers of the Almighty God. The Sacred Scriptures is just giving the tasks to be done by the messengers to be by God. And we could not tell also their exact names.

We have learned also that the prophesied concerned personalities were the one claiming the testimonies from the Holy Scriptures publicly while they were in complying with their commissioned tasks.

Here are some Biblical information that would be useful in determining the true messenger of God. The Tasks to be done by the messenger.

36. But the testimony which I have is greater than that of John; for the works which the Father has granted me to accomplish, these very works which I am doing, bear me witness that the Father has sent me. John 5:36 RSV.

39. You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;

25. Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness to me;

2. And when John had heard in prison about the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples 3and said to Him, “Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?” 4.Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and tell John the things which you hear and see: 5. The blind see and the lame walk; the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear; the dead are raised up and the poor have the gospel preached to them. ( Matthew 11:-5 NKJV).

We have learned from our Lord Christ Jesus, that we need to see and check the tasks commissioned by God with His messenger and could be included as the testimony and proving that he is the messenger of God. The completion of his jobs to do.

Here some testimonies of the Sacred Scriptures concerning the true preacher/s sent by God in our times. Book of Prophet Isaiah 43:5-10 21KJV.

Isaiah 43:5-13
21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
5 Fear not, for I am with thee; I will bring thy seed from the east and gather thee from the west;
6 I will say to the north,‘ Give up,’ and to the south, ‘Keep not back.’ Bring My sons from far and My daughters from the ends of the earth,
7 even every one that is called by My name: For I have created him for My glory; I have formed him; yea, I have made him.”
8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes and the deaf that have ears.
9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled. Who among them can declare this and show us former things? Let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified; or let them hear and say, “It is truth.”
10 “Ye are My witnesses,” saith the Lord, “and My servant whom I have chosen, that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.

Who is the person with God, who are the blind people, who are the sons and the daughters of God, at the ends of the earth?

I will share my views given to me by the preachers truly sent by God, in my next post.

Thank you.

May the Lord God bless us.

October 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm#351988

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If people refuse to put themselves under the yoke of your religious organization,
you think that you can deny them entrance into God's kingdom? There is no evidence
whatsoever of them doing any iniquity for you to make such grandiose accusations with.

God bless
Ed J

Dear Ed J,

Point of clarification:I am not the one telling that “they could not enter to the kingdom of God” even though the other men can do miracles and mighty works in the name of Christ Jesus. He himself hath announced it. and I did not accusing them of any wrong doing, the Holy Scriptures is the one said that all the entire people in this world has been condemned. Here is the testimony of the Sacred Scriptures: Book of Romans 3:19 NLT.

“Obviously, the law applies to those to whom it was given, for its purpose is to keep people from having excuses, and to show that the entire world is guilty before God.”

21. “Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

22. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

23. And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Christ Jesus, is declaring that they did not knew them and not me.

Please, it is not our business to accuse anybody here in Heaven Net. Let us do our utmost best to cease in posting the context that could be deemed “as a plain accusation to anyone”.

Peace be with us.

Hi limjunus,

Are you suggesting that Matt.7:21-22 is in reference somehow to
those John was referring to in Mark 9:38? …if so, what evidence do you have? (1Thess.5:21)
Jesus clearly said in Mark 9:39 to forbid them not from not following them, yet you appear to be doing the opposite here. …are you not?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

You are missing the point again.

John, reported to Jesus, that he had forbid (stop) the “other man” in doing miracles in the name of Christ Jesus.

Please, give your attention to the words “other man”. It mean: not with them,.. not belong to them.

and Christ Jesus told to John, “forbid not (let him do what is his doing), if they did not against us, they are ours”.

And Christ Jesus, clarified it with his “declarations” Matt.7:21-22 NKJV.

Study the reasoning of the “other men” doing miracles and mighty works in the name of Christ Jesus. It is the same with the reported event by John, “doing mighty works in the name of Jesus.

In Fact Christ Jesus, declared them “you who practice lawlessness!' and said to them “DEPART FROM ME; I NEVER KNEW YOU.

It is very painful, to heard that voice from our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. ' I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME; YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS”

peace.

Hi limjunus,

“John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name,
and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name,
that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:38-40)

From “the context” it can be gleaned that John forbid him (the one casting out devils) from not following them. (not what you are suggesting)
Jesus reassures John that those that do not oppose them are on their side with them (in a common purpose). …do you understand my point now?

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

limjunus,

Why would John forbid him from casting out devils? …that doesn't make any sense?

Plus you seem to be indicating that the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
was not with them (in purpose) when Jesus clearly says in Mark 9:40 that he was.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

October 24, 2012 at 2:44 pm#351989

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Terraricca and to all concerned people,

“THE MESSENGERS OF GOD” Part-3.

Here is another salt (truth) the prophesied for the messenger to be by God, in our times.

10. Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.' 11. “Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you shall perish. 12. You shall seek them and not find them Those who contended with you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent thing. 13.For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you, 'Fear not, I will help you.'
10. Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, 'My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,' 11. Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it. 12″Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted, Who are far from righteousness: 13I bring My righteousness near, it shall not be far off; My salvation shall not linger. And I will place salvation in Zion, For Israel My glory.

Isaiah 24:15 New Century Version (NCV)

15 People in the east, praise the Lord. People in the islands of the sea, praise the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.

Isaiah 42:10 Amplified Bible (AMP)
10 Sing to the Lord a new song, and His praise from the end of the earth! You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, the islands and coastal regions and the inhabitants of them [sing a song such as has never been heard in the heathen world

Who are these people in our times (end of the earth)?

Who is he, the “bird of pray from the east, a man executing the counsel of the Lord?

John the Baptist, claimed the prophesied for him by himself, the same with Christ Jesus and the apostles Paul,…beside the prophesied, the assigned tasks given to them to do is also a very solid testimony that they were the true preachers sent by God.

Now, who is claiming the fulfillment of the said prophesies in our times? The prophets and the apostles could not jot down the name of the person concern and the artificial name of the nations in the far east and the far west. The Prophet Isaiah just write down the time, the place, the kind of people, the islands and the tasks given to him and the kind of name to be called to every children of the Most High, including the doctrines (spirit).

I will continue my views in my next posts.

Good day and good night.

May the Lord God, have mercy on us.

October 24, 2012 at 3:00 pm#351990

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God bless
Ed J

Dear Ed J,

“Obviously, the law applies to those to whom it was given, for its purpose is to keep people from having excuses, and to show that the entire world is guilty before God.”

21. “Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

22. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

23. And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Christ Jesus, is declaring that they did not knew them and not me.

Please, it is not our business to accuse anybody here in Heaven Net. Let us do our utmost best to cease in posting the context that could be deemed “as a plain accusation to anyone”.

Peace be with us.

Hi limjunus,

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

You are missing the point again.

John, reported to Jesus, that he had forbid (stop) the “other man” in doing miracles in the name of Christ Jesus.

Please, give your attention to the words “other man”. It mean: not with them,.. not belong to them.

and Christ Jesus told to John, “forbid not (let him do what is his doing), if they did not against us, they are ours”.

And Christ Jesus, clarified it with his “declarations” Matt.7:21-22 NKJV.

Study the reasoning of the “other men” doing miracles and mighty works in the name of Christ Jesus. It is the same with the reported event by John, “doing mighty works in the name of Jesus.

In Fact Christ Jesus, declared them “you who practice lawlessness!' and said to them “DEPART FROM ME; I NEVER KNEW YOU.

It is very painful, to heard that voice from our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. ' I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME; YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS”

peace.

Hi limjunus,

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

limjunus,

Why would John forbid him from casting out devils? …that doesn't make any sense?

Plus you seem to be indicating that the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
was not with them (in purpose) when Jesus clearly says in Mark 9:40 that he was.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

I could not read that Christ Jesus, had said and confirmed that the man is one of them.

Here is the truth: “40. For he who is not against us is on our side. (Mark 9:40 NKJV)

So, the man activity (casting out devil in the name of Jesus) is against them or not?

What is your conclusion?

Here is the conclusion of the great teacher:

It is against them (Jesus and the disciples). It is not the will of God, as what Christ Jesus, hath proclaimed. (Matthew 7:21-22 NKJV).

Peace be with us.

October 24, 2012 at 3:11 pm#351991

terraricca

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limj

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Who is the person with God, who are the blind people, who are the sons and the daughters of God, at the ends of the earth?

Ac 2:5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven.

Ac 2:6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
Ac 2:12 Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”

Ac 2:16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
Ac 2:17 “ ‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Ac 2:18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

Ac 2:19 I will show wonders in the heaven above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
Ac 2:20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
Ac 2:21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’

Ac 2:28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.’

Ac 2:30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne.
Ac 2:31 Seeing what was ahead, he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to the grave, nor did his body see decay.
Ac 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.

THE BLINDS ARE THOSE WHO CAN NOT SEE,RIGHT YES
Jn 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’”

Jn 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

THIS IS THE REALIZATION OF THAT PROPHECY, BLIND PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THE DARK,

October 24, 2012 at 3:14 pm#351992

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[/B]20. For no prophecy recorded in Scripture was ever thought up by the prophet himself. It was the Holy Spirit within these godly men who gave them true messages from God.

(2-Peter 1:20 Living Bible)

The man of God, can give the true meaning of the prophesies with the guidance of the holy spirit.

May the Lord God, bless us day and night.

October 24, 2012 at 3:19 pm#351993

terraricca

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[/B]20. For no prophecy recorded in Scripture was ever thought up by the prophet himself. It was the Holy Spirit within these godly men who gave them true messages from God.

(2-Peter 1:20 Living Bible)

The man of God, can give the true meaning of the prophesies with the guidance of the holy spirit.

May the Lord God, bless us day and night.

LMJ

TRUE

October 24, 2012 at 3:21 pm#351994

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THE BLINDS ARE THOSE WHO CAN NOT SEE,RIGHT

YES
Jn 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’”

THIS IS THE REALIZATION OF THAT PROPHECY, BLIND PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THE DARK,

Dear Terraricca,

Yes, it is true. The man should be born again by the words of God. And the words of God, must be preach by the preacher sent by God.

Therefore you need to hear the words of God, from the genuine preachers of God and not by yourself alone.

Books of Romans 10:14-5, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.

Then you can have the light and not darkness.

God bless us.

October 24, 2012 at 3:34 pm#351995

terraricca

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THE BLINDS ARE THOSE WHO CAN NOT SEE,RIGHT

YES
Jn 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’”

THIS IS THE REALIZATION OF THAT PROPHECY, BLIND PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THE DARK,

Dear Terraricca,

Yes, it is true. The man should be born again by the words of God. And the words of God, must be preach by the preacher sent by God.

Therefore you need to hear the words of God, from the genuine preachers of God and not by yourself alone.

Books of Romans 10:14-5, 17 / Isaiah 8:20 NKJV.

Then you can have the light and not darkness.

God bless us.

LIMJ

it is not the preacher that his important IT IS THE MESSAGE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN THAT GOES IN THE MIND AND HEART OF THOSE WHO HEAR IT ,IT IS CALLED “THE LIVING WORD “IT DOES SOMETHING TO THOSE WHO ARE OF THE RIGHT GROUND( THE HEARER) WERE THE SEED(THE MESSAGE) FALLS ON,

SO THAT IT IS NOT THE PREACHER OR THE TEACHER MESSAGE BUT GODS MESSAGE THAT DOES THE WORK ,

THE PREACHERS IS ONLY A PART OF THE WORK THAT GOD WANT HIM TO DO ,TO SHOW LOVE FOR THE TRUTH OF HIS GOD AND FATHER ,SO ALSO IT IS FOR THE TEACHERS

GOD SPIRIT DOES THE REAL WORK.

October 24, 2012 at 3:55 pm#351996

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Hi limjunus,

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

limjunus,

Why would John forbid him from casting out devils? …that doesn't make any sense?

Plus you seem to be indicating that the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38
was not with them (in purpose) when Jesus clearly says in Mark 9:40 that he was.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Dear Ed J,

(1)I could not read that Christ Jesus, had said and confirmed that the man is one of them.

(2)So, the man activity (casting out devil in the name of Jesus) is against them or not?

What is your conclusion?

Peace be with us.

Hi limjunus,

1) Here are Jesus exact words: “he that is not against us is on our part”
2) No

Why would you assume that John was telling the man to stop the miracles?
Is there any place where one is told to stop doing miracles in Jesus name – yes or no? <– please answer

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

October 24, 2012 at 7:05 pm#351997

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The preacher to be of the gospel of Christ, must be having the authentication, certification and truly sent by God, (through the divine identification duly and specially made by God).

And how do we know someone is truly sent by God?
How do we know you are sent by God?

October 24, 2012 at 7:11 pm#351998

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Limjunis,

I am not sure that your methods on here are the best way to reach people. Some may read all you have written, but most won't. Smaller conversations with people who want to discuss what you are interested in seems a better way.

I personally, am not really even sure what this thread is about. I seriously don't know.

I do like to discuss “preaching” but you do not seem interested in discussing that, really
I do like to discuss many things. I am really not sure what you are trying to convey in this thread.

David.

October 24, 2012 at 7:20 pm#351999

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After hearing the gospel from the preacher, the faith must be comes through within the listeners. By having the right faith of beliefs, then they can call the name of the Lord, follows by salvation.

–lim

Do you consider what you are doing on this forum to be preaching the gospel (good news)?

The problem is that everyone on here has already heard the good news, has their own version of it.

This is why it makes sense to me for you to just tell us what you actually believe.

October 24, 2012 at 8:18 pm#352000

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Hi David,

I believe he's trying to convince us that his group are true messengers of God.
But I don't see that as a problem, the problem is: that he seems to be also saying
that no-one else outside of it is; hey, kinda sounds like your organization huh David?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

October 24, 2012 at 8:37 pm#352001

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Hi David,

Everyone seems to think its about doctrine,
it's about the perfecting of all God's children.
(about the clay in the hand of the potter)
The potter is YHVH; not your group, nor his.

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

October 24, 2012 at 10:40 pm#352002

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Hi David,

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Also sounds exactly like your organization of 1 Ed. Why do you keep insinuating that I have an organization?

To me, it doesn't really seem at all like he is trying very hard to say what you believe. It does seem that is what he wants to at some point discuss. But so far, not so much.

October 24, 2012 at 10:46 pm#352003

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Hi David,

Everyone seems to think its about doctrine,
it's about the perfecting of all God's children.
(about the clay in the hand of the potter)
The potter is YHVH; not your group, nor his.

What group? Ed, all we discuss on here is doctrine. If you don't want to discuss that, FINE BY ME.

Ed, can we now try to focus on whatever it is that lim wants to discuss on here. (Not really sure he wants to discuss anything, but sort of feel he is wanting t preach to us, and his way of doing that is the posts he has made.)

Yes Ed, the potter is YhwH, not his group, not you or your delusional number scheme. True that.

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