The messenger of jehovah was jehovah

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2009,14:07)

Hi Con, Poor TT believes God is a community following the trinity folly and is adding members like angels as he goes along. None are following him and the trinitarians hide away in embarrassment.

NH

This is a broad statement and a lie IMO, because I am a Trinitarian and I am not hiding in embarrasment.

I know what Jack believes and I am in agreement with him.

You do not understand that messengers are not always Angels.

Was John the Baptist an Angel?

WJ

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,06:07)

Hi Con, Poor TT believes God is a community following the trinity folly and is adding members like angels as he goes along. None are following him and the trinitarians hide away in embarrassment.

Nick,
Show where I have said that angels are part of the godhead. I would not follow me either. I said that the MESSENGER of Jehovah was Jehovah.

TO CONSTITUTIONALIST: Please note that the title of this thread is “The mesenger of Jehovah was Jehovah.” The Messenger was Jesus. I never said “angels.” Nick is not interested in the facts. He just likes to instigate. He is a moderator here but acts like a child.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
So your community god too contains three persons and a few angels?
What about the burning bush?

Why not abhor such idols and return to the God of Israel and Jesus?

[terraricca]

it seems that some readers think that God him self is appering to people then why did he has created 200 millions of angels with different powers? let not forget that all creation has been made through the Word is only begotten son who is also know as Jesus Christ and the king of kings and what ever take place under God creation is done with Gods permition.Also in heaven the greates of all is the one who serves the interest of the most.not dominat the most.

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
So the angels of God who met with Abraham and went on to destroy Lot's town are God?

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,10:24)

Hi WJ, So your community god too contains three persons and a few angels? What about the burning bush? Why not abhor such idols and return to the God of Israel and Jesus?

Nick,
It won't take Constitutionalist long to figure out what kind of person you are. Your keyboard is the gate to your true soul. t8 should give you the boot.

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,10:27)

Hi TT, So the angels of God who met with Abraham and went on to destroy Lot's town are God?

And I said this where? You say you believe in the God of the Jews. This God said, “You shall not bear false witness.”

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
Messenger s are not always angels.
Does your god always have to be His own messenger?
When God speaks through His anointed vessels do they become God too?

[KangarooJack]

Worshippingjesus said to Nick:

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You do not understand that messengers are not always Angels.

Keith,
Nick understands. He just don't care about facts.

Jack

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
Is your god so small he does his own messages?
How many angels are in your god?
Trinity seems inadequate.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,10:38)

Hi TT, Is your god so small he does his own messages? How many angels are in your god? Trinity seems inadequate.

Nick,
Your words only cause me to love Jesus more.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
I thought you would avoid these questions but they spring from your false ideas.
You should address them seriously.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,10:43)

Hi TT, I thought you would avoid these questions but they spring from your false ideas. You should address them seriously.

All questions have been dealt with all over this board.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
You just missed one or two.
Your adoption of the catholic trinity leads to absurd conclusions.

[Constitutionalist]

English word Angels:

Hebrew: Mal'ak: Messenger, representative, unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy.

Human beings as Mal'ak:

Genesis 42:3; 32:6; Numbers 20:14; 21:21; 22:5; 24:12; Deuteronomy 2:26; Joshua 6:17; 6:25; 7:22; Judges 6:35; 7:24; 9:31; 11:12; 11:13; 11:14; 11:17; 11:19; 1Samuel 6:21; 11:3; 11:4; 11:7; 11:9; 16:19; 19:11; 19:14; 19:15; 19:16; 19:20; 19:21; 23:27; 25:14; 25:42; 2Samuel 2:5; 3:12; 3:14; 3:26; 5:11; 11:4; 11:19; 11:22; 11:23; 11:25; 11:27; 1Kings 19:2; 20:2; 20:5; 20:9; 22:13; 2Kings 1:2; 1:5; 1:16; 5:10; 6:32; 6:33; 7:15; 9:18; 10:8; 14:8; 16:7; 17:4; 19:9; 19:14; 19:23; 1Chronicles 14:1; 19:2; 19:16; 2Chronicles 18:2; 36:15; Nehemiah 6:3; Job 1:14; 33:23; 13:17; Isaiah 14:32; 18:2; 37:9; 37:14; 42:19; 44:26; Jeremiah 27:3; 23:16; 23:40; 30:9; Nahum 2:13; Haggai 1:13; Malachi 2:7; 3:1

Wicked human beings as Mal'ak:

Proverbs 13:17; 16:14; 17:11;

Ambassadors are Mal'ak:

2Chronicles 25:21; Isaiah 18:2; 30:4; 33:7; Ezekiel 17:15

Human beings and English word Angels/Angel of the LORD together as Mal'ak:

2Kings 1:3

English word Angels and/or Angel of the LORD is used as Mal'ak over 102 times in scripture.

Easton's Bible Dictionary: Messenger: (Heb. mal'ak, Gr. angelos), an angel, a messenger who runs on foot, the bearer of despatches.

International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia: Messenger: Mes’-en-jer: The regular Hebrew word for “messenger” is mal’akh, the Greek aggelos. This may be a human messenger or a messenger of God, an angel. The context must decide the right translation, the prophet is called God’s messenger. The Greek apostolos, “apostle,” is rendered “messenger.” Translations literally, from Hebrew basar, “to tell good news,” “he that brought the tidings.”

[NickHassan]

Yes Con,
And none of the messengers are God.
I note a quote from an american revolutionary at the bottom of your post?

[Constitutionalist]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2009,17:39)

Yes Con, And none of the messengers are God. I note a quote from an american revolutionary at the bottom of your post?

Yes sir, maybe times are at hand when a new revolution may be on our doorstep here in America.

[NickHassan]

Hi Con,
There will be wars …
Do earthly political changes really matter to those who are seated with Christ in the heavenly realms?

[Constitutionalist]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2009,18:37)

Hi Con, There will be wars … Do earthly political changes really matter to those who are seated with Christ in the heavenly realms?

If the Judgement was here and now, then no it would not matter. But since it not, then yes, it does matter, and it is my duty as an American to ward off Tyranny, Socialism, Communism, Marxism etc. with every breath and drop of blood to preserve this great Republic.

God, Country, and Family

[Lightenup]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2009,18:07)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2009,14:07) Hi Con, Poor TT believes God is a community following the trinity folly and is adding members like angels as he goes along. None are following him and the trinitarians hide away in embarrassment. NH This is a broad statement and a lie IMO, because I am a Trinitarian and I am not hiding in embarrasment. I know what Jack believes and I am in agreement with him. You do not understand that messengers are not always Angels. Was John the Baptist an Angel? WJ

Keith,
So I am confused…are you a trinitarian as in a believer in the trinity doctrine or are you just someone that agrees with most of the trinity doctrine which would mean the doctrine as merely true-ish in your opinion?

You wrote:

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As far as me being true-ish, I never quote any creeds here. My explanation of the Trinitarian view is from the scriptures and the term Trinitarian is given to me by people like you!

From here: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=640

Yet you call yourself a trinitarian, see here (see above quoted post):

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This is a broad statement and a lie IMO, because I am a Trinitarian and I am not hiding in embarrasment.

So, people “like me” are calling you a trinitarian because you call yourself a trinitarian.

I maybe wrong here but isn't a person who calls them-self a “trinitarian” one who believes in the trinity doctrine? Yet you do not completely believe in the trinity doctrine so wouldn't that make the doctrine false if merely partially correct? Wouldn't that be Satan's style to have men believing in something that was almost true but not completely? Do you want to be identified with Satan's establishment?

So, are you a trinitarian because people “like me” call you that or do you call yourself that? Is the trinity doctrine true or true-ish?

I just would like you to clear this up. I know that you can do that without dodging the question and diverting attention on others, can't you.

Kathi

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