The mark of the beast,

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  • #323272
    Wakeup
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    Seven Angels With Seven Plagues.

    15. I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues—last, because with them God’s WRATH is completed.

    2. And I saw what looked like a sea of glass glowing with fire and, standing beside the sea, those who had been VICTORIOUS over the beast and its IMAGE and over the NUMBER OF ITS NAME. They held harps given them by God.

    3. and sang the song of God’s servant Moses and of the Lamb: (OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT).
    “Great and marvelous are your deeds,
    Lord God Almighty.
    Just and true are your ways,
    King of the nations.[a]
    (THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE PLAGUES).

    4 Who will not fear you, Lord,
    and bring glory to your name?
    For you alone are holy.
    ALL NATIONS WILL come
    and WORSHIP before you,
    for your righteous acts have been revealed.”

    5 After this I looked, and I saw in heaven the temple—that is, the tabernacle of the TESTIMONY—and it was opened.

    6 OUT OF THE TEMPLE came the SEVEN ANGELS with the SEVEN plagues. They were dressed in clean, shining linen and wore golden sashes around their chests.

    7 Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden BOWLS WITH THE WRATH OF GOD, who lives for ever and ever.

    8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God and from his power, and NO ONE COULD ENTER the temple UNTILL the seven plagues of the seven angels were completed.

    IT IS CLEAR THAT THE MARK OF THE BEAST MUST COME FIRST; BEFORE THE 1ST ANGEL STARTS POURING.
    IT IS OBVIOUS, THAT EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A BOWL IN HIS HANDS.

    wakeup.

    #323314
    942767
    Participant

    Yes, of course, the mark of the beast will have been received prior to the seven last plagues are initiated. Those who are alive at the Lord's coming for the church who are not saved will have received the mark of the beast, and will be judged by the seven last plagues.

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    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

    2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.

    2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

    2Th 2:9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    This is the sixth trumpet, and I have given you scripture showing that this is the time that the two witnesses will be prophesying.

    2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness

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    Rev 9:13 ¶ And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

    Rev 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

    Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

    Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

    Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses [were] as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

    Rev 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

    Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails [were] like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

    Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

    Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts

    Love in Chirst,
    Marty

    #323324
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Marty.

    I am glad that you could see that with no problem.
    The mark of the beast as you know ,will be physical not spiritual as some have claimed.

    The reason why it is not spiritual is, because a spiritual mark can only cover the christian world,not all the population of this planet.
    Hope you can see this too.

    Regards.

    wakeup.

    #323775
    Pastry
    Participant

    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg

    #323778
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.

    #323785
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:51)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.


    still avoiding straight answers, eh?

    Georg

    #323786
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2012,15:46)
    Marty.

    I am glad that you could see that with no problem.
    The mark of the beast as you know ,will be physical not spiritual as some have claimed.

    The reason why it is not spiritual is, because a spiritual mark can only cover the christian world,not all the population of this planet.
    Hope you can see this too.

    Regards.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup:

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    Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.

    Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

    Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

    Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #323787
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:51)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.


    still avoiding straight answers, eh?

    Georg

    #323793
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,07:38)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:51)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.


    still avoiding straight answers, eh?

    Georg


    hi georg

    their are only two scriptures to the mark;

    REV 16:2 So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth; and it became a loathsome and malignant sore on the people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image.
    REV 19:20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.

    I do not know why some people are afraid to post scriptures

    #323835
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,12:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:51)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.


    still avoiding straight answers, eh?

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You said ,show me the scripture.
    I showed you the scripture.

    wakeup.

    #323879
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2012,12:52)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,07:38)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:51)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.


    still avoiding straight answers, eh?

    Georg


    hi georg

    their are only two scriptures to the mark;

    REV 16:2 So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth; and it became a loathsome and malignant sore on the people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image.
    REV 19:20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.

    I do not know why some people are afraid to post scriptures


    Are you then saying that “these two” scriptures referring to some other mark?

    Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    Georg

    #323880
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,16:13)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,12:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:51)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.


    still avoiding straight answers, eh?

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You said ,show me the scripture.
    I showed you the scripture.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    Terrarica did the right thing, he posted the scriptures; now if you will take a look at those scriptures they say;

    “the mark of the beast”

    How can you possibly know what the mark is, if you don't know who the beast was?

    Georg

    #323977
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 10 2012,05:05)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,16:13)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,12:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2012,11:51)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 09 2012,11:39)
    wakeup

    Show me the scripture that talks about the “mark” of the beast, so I know what you're talking about.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You should have read it before,
    one of them is in revelation19:20.

    wakeup.


    still avoiding straight answers, eh?

    Georg


    Pastry.

    You said ,show me the scripture.
    I showed you the scripture.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    Terrarica did the right thing, he posted the scriptures; now if you will take a look at those scriptures they say;

    “the mark of the beast”

    How can you possibly know what the mark is, if you don't know who the beast was?

    Georg


    Pastry.

    This is not hard to do; for it concerns buying and selling.
    The beast is not here yet;correct,but the way of the beast is being prepared now. The technology is here and being tested and advertised; and some have voluntarily received the mark.

    When the beast is in charge,this will be made compulsory.

    wakeup.

    #323980
    Pastry
    Participant

    wakeup

    Buying and selling what?
    Do you really think, that one man could in less than seven years control the whole world economy?

    There was however a man that did control who could buy and sell; during the “dark” and “middle” ages, the Pope.
    What you could not buy was a Bible, any part of it, or sell for that matter; if you were caught owning one, or just part of it; or if you were caught reading, any part of it, you were killed, executed.

    That was how the pope controlled the masses, by fear, and by keeping people in the dark about the word of God.

    Georg

    #323997
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 11 2012,00:30)
    wakeup

    Buying and selling what?
    Do you really think, that one man could in less than seven years control the whole world economy?

    There was however a man that did control who could buy and sell; during the “dark” and “middle” ages, the Pope.
    What you could not buy was a Bible, any part of it, or sell for that matter; if you were caught owning one, or just part of it; or if you were caught reading, any part of it, you were killed, executed.
     
    That was how the pope controlled the masses, by fear, and by keeping people in the dark about the word of God.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    That happened before,I agree,but we can buy or sell the bible today.This prophecy is not about the dark ages,but the end time.

    By this mark or number, the false prophet can control the world. For without the number, no trade can proceed.
    No import and export; no shopping for groceries.

    Take care.

    wakeup.

    #324062
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2012,03:58)

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 11 2012,00:30)
    wakeup

    Buying and selling what?
    Do you really think, that one man could in less than seven years control the whole world economy?

    There was however a man that did control who could buy and sell; during the “dark” and “middle” ages, the Pope.
    What you could not buy was a Bible, any part of it, or sell for that matter; if you were caught owning one, or just part of it; or if you were caught reading, any part of it, you were killed, executed.
     
    That was how the pope controlled the masses, by fear, and by keeping people in the dark about the word of God.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    That happened before,I agree,but we can buy or sell the bible today.This prophecy is not about the dark ages,but the end time.

    By this mark or number, the false prophet can control the world. For without the number, no trade can proceed.
    No import and export; no shopping for groceries.

    Take care.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    You may be surprised to learn that the number is not even a mark; it is only given to us so we can identify the man to whom it belongs.

    Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    The number of a man, the number of his name, a name could also be a title. On the popes crown is an inscription in Latin: “VICARIVS FILII DEI,” which means “Vicar of the Son of God.” Some Latin letters also have a numerical value.
    V I C A R I V S – F I L I I – D E I
    5 1 100 0 0 1 5 0 0 1 50 1 1 500 0 1 = 666
    To help identify that man, whose name is that number; is the only significance of that number. Coincident? With God there are no coincidences.

    Georg

    #324119
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Pastry.

    The scripture is clear; the mark will be used for buying and selling; trade.
    No mark,no trade,no buy,no eat.We will be forced to worship the false prophet; the beast that came out of the earth.rev.13:11.

    wakeup.

    #324137
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2012,21:16)
    Pastry.

    The scripture is clear; the mark will be used for buying and selling; trade.
    No mark,no trade,no buy,no eat.We will be forced to worship the false prophet; the beast that came out of the earth.rev.13:11.

    wakeup.


    I used to go to a circus to see a clown, now I can stay home and watch you; thank you for the entertainment.
    :p  :blues:  :angry:  :ghostface:

    Georg

    #324221
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 12 2012,03:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2012,21:16)
    Pastry.

    The scripture is clear; the mark will be used for buying and selling; trade.
    No mark,no trade,no buy,no eat.We will be forced to worship the false prophet; the beast that came out of the earth.rev.13:11.

    wakeup.


    I used to go to a circus to see a clown, no I can stay home and watch you; thank you for the entertainment.
    :p  :blues:  :angry:  :ghostface:

    Georg


    The world's armies gather to fight Christ at His 2nd coming:

    Revelation 19:19 >And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him that sat on the horse, and against His army.  

    And one is among them who wrought miracles and deceived the people to receive the mark of the beast.
    He is called the False Prophet.

    Revelation 19:20 >And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    They attempted to war against Christ, to prevent His return, Satan deceived them into this through his false prophet who Christ destroys at His return. That man who wrought miracles and deceived all the people into receiving the mark of the beast and worshipping his image.

    Revelation 13:11-18
       11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

    12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

    13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

    14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    This beast wrought miracles
    This beast deceived the people into receiving the mark of the beast
    This beast commanded all people to worship the image
    This beast does all the same things as the beast attempting to prevent Christ's return
    And that one was called the false prophet
    He is a man
    And he is attempting to prevent Christ's 2nd coming
    They are one and the same.
    And Christ has not returned yet
    Therefore, it can only be future…and beyond all doubt, it is.

    No clowns here.

    #324239
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Devo.

    You should understand that it wont be easy to give away a doctrine that is embeded in the mind for years.
    It will take some time if the person is willing, and truly consider scriptures holy.

    Take care.

    wakeup.

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