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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 16 2012,23:12) EJ. Lets not talk about religion,lets stay with aswering scriptures.
In your case;my questions are.
(1)Is mohamad the false prophet that Christ is going to cast in the lake of fire?(2)Is the little horn in daniel,mohamad?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire:
and them that had gotten the victory over the beast(Rev.13:1-3), and over his image(Rev.13:15),
and over his mark(is-lam), and over the number of his name(Rev.13:18), stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.2) I don't know, but guess is probably not. …Dan 11:37-39, however, is definatly about islam.
Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
(3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.This can only be the prophet of islam (Rev.13:11,18)
and his god (Rev.12:3,9); wake-up! (Eph.5:14)1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
6. When were the prophets over with?
7. Who do they say has no Son?1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)(7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
with our spirit, that we are the children of God.B'shem
YHVHQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2012,23:36) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 16 2012,23:12) EJ. Lets not talk about religion,lets stay with aswering scriptures.
In your case;my questions are.
(1)Is mohamad the false prophet that Christ is going to cast in the lake of fire?(2)Is the little horn in daniel,mohamad?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire:
and them that had gotten the victory over the beast(Rev.13:1-3), and over his image(Rev.13:15),
and over his mark(is-lam), and over the number of his name(Rev.13:18), stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.2) I don't know, but guess is probably not. …Dan 11:37-39, however, is definatly about islam.
Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
(3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.This can only be the prophet of islam (Rev.13:11,18)
and his god (Rev.12:3,9); wake-up! (Eph.5:14)1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
6. When were the prophets over with?
7. Who do they say has no Son?1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)(7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
with our spirit, that we are the children of God.B'shem
YHVH
EDJ.Will you please answer my question.
Is mohamad the little horn?Or is he the false prophet in rev19?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 17 2012,00:18) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2012,23:36) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 16 2012,23:12) EJ. Lets not talk about religion,lets stay with aswering scriptures.
In your case;my questions are.
(1)Is mohamad the false prophet that Christ is going to cast in the lake of fire?(2)Is the little horn in daniel,mohamad?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire:
and them that had gotten the victory over the beast(Rev.13:1-3), and over his image(Rev.13:15),
and over his mark(is-lam), and over the number of his name(Rev.13:18), stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.2) I don't know, but guess is probably not.
…Dan 11:37-39, however, is definatly about islam.
Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
(3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.This can only be the prophet of islam (Rev.13:11,18)
and his god (Rev.12:3,9); wake-up! (Eph.5:14)1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
6. When were the prophets over with?
7. Who do they say has no Son?1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)(7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
with our spirit, that we are the children of God.B'shem
YHVH
EDJ.Will you please answer my question.
(A)Is mohamad the little horn? Or
(B)is he the false prophet in rev19?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, you mean “questions”, or do you believe that cannot be the same answer?A) See point #2 in my last quote. (you must have missed my answer)
B) Do you believe the false prophet in Rev.19:20
is the false prophet in Rev.13:11? I do,
yes to Rev.19:20 and Rev.13:11.B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 17 2012,00:38) EdJ. IS HE MOHAMAD?
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Perhaps you need Georgie to translate for you?
Once again you seem to have missed my answer, see “B” in my last post.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,01:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 17 2012,00:38) EdJ. IS HE MOHAMAD?
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Perhaps you need Georgie to translate for you?
Once again you seem to have missed my answer, see “B” in my last post.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Is it yes or no.
Is mohamad the man of perdition; the beast with 2 horns.
Is it mohamad? yes/no.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 17 2012,01:19) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,01:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 17 2012,00:38) EdJ. IS HE MOHAMAD?
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,Perhaps you need Georgie to translate for you?
Once again you seem to have missed my answer, see “B” in my last post.
God bless
Ed J
EDJ.(1) Is it yes or no.
(2) Is mohamad the man of perdition; (3)the beast with 2 horns.
(4) Is it mohamad? yes/no.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,These are FOUR different questions here, though the first labeled as question #1
seems to be the question that I had previously answered in “B” of my last post.1) Previously answered in “B” of my last post
2) NO
3) YES4) Define what “IT” is, and I will surly answer your question; OK?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi EDJ.
Dan 11:37–39. is the same man in dan7:11(LITTLE HORN).
He is the same man of perdition in 2thess:2. he is the same man in rev.13:11. Beast coming out of earth.He is the is the same man with the great wonders and miracles.rev13:13. He is the same man in rev19:20.the false prophet cast into the lake of fire.
Your answer is NO,HE IS NOT THE MAN OF PERDITION.
Then you said,YES, he is the man in dan11:37–39.
ED,they are the same person.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
I disagree with you an 2Thess.2:3-4, however,
I'm interested in how you tie Dan.11:37-39 to Dan.7:11.
Can you please explain how you tie Dan.11:37-39 to Dan.7:11?
I want the focus of your explanation on Daniel Chapter 7 if you don't mind.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,02:57) Hi Wakeup, I disagree with you an 2Thess.2:3-4, however,
I'm interested in how you tie Dan.11:37-39 to Dan.7:11.
Can you please explain how you tie Dan.11:37-39 to Dan.7:11?
I want the focus of your explanation on Daniel Chapter 7 if you don't mind.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You sure like to give me overtime dont you.
Dan.ch7. Dan.saw the dream in the first yr of Belshazzar,so king Neb is gone,past.Bel was gone soon after.(the wring on the wall).
Daniel is shown the future kingdoms coming.
The lion with wings,is the kingdom of the medes(Darius).
I can explain re,the wings etc,etc,but it will take time.The bear coming on its side with 3 ribs between his teeth,is the kingdom of persia,The 3 ribs are the previous kings and he is the riches of them,he is (xerxis).
The leopard is the kingdom of greece(alexander the great).
The 4 heads are his 4 generals that devided the kingdom amongst them.Ptolemy,Seleucus,Cassander,lesimacus.God is jumping to the last beast here.
The fourt beast is the dreadful one,It had 10 horns,then another little horn came up,with eyes like a man and a mouth speaking great things.9.Then Dan.said: I behold UNTILL THE THRONES WERE CAST DOWN AND THE ANCIENT OF DAYS(JESUS) DID SIT.(in power)
So this dreadful beast is the end time beast.11. The beast was slain and given to the burning flame=To(rev19:20).The same flame.
20–26. the same beast will be judged.
Focus on the little horn till you get to rev19:20.this is where the little horn is called the false prophet that wrought all the miracles and the number.In dan.11.is also about the little horn; he will call himself God.
In verse45.He will plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas(jerusalem).and he will come to his end.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Thank you for your explanation on how you understand the false prophet!
I agree with Georg, in that because you are looking into the future,
you have missed the actual fulfillment of many prophecies.
Not that I agree with Georg's conclusions mind you.But if we all sit down and discuss all the intricacies,
You may be able to see that many things that you are
pushing off into the future, were actually fulfilled in the pastYour brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Hi Wakeup,
You may not agree with this,
but please watch this entire video.
Afterward, I would like to hear your take.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,05:30) Hi Wakeup, You may not agree with this,
but please watch this entire video.
Afterward, I would like to hear your take.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Thank you Ed.To uderstand prophesy one must know the -LINGO- God uses; women for instance.
Example: isiah32:9 Rise up ye women that are at ease;hear my voice,ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speach.
(this is not talking about women as women,but religions)We can not use our own interpretations.
Beasts are kingdoms,not animals; horns means kings.
crown means authority; mountain means kingdoms,hill means small kingdoms.flood,means armie attacks.
wings,means pride,the ceadars,means the high and mighty,proud.He(wally) interprets the woman in genesis 3:15.as women.
wrong; the seed of the woman is,Jesus; the woman is Zion Gods woman.
Rev.12. is Gods woman,with a crown of 12 stars,clothed with the sun,ready to give birth to her son,and God is the father.The kingdom of the muslems is not North. but south.
King of the north:
Dan11:40. jer.4:6. 6:22 10:22. 25:9. 47:2. 50:3.9.41. 51:48.
joel 2:20. zeph.2:13.isiah 14:31.
The attack always comes from the north; (north of israel)
but we call it now the west.(europe).The jews are waiting for the messiah,the muslems are waiting for the mahdi; the budhist are waiting for the budha, the krishnas are waiting for krishna.
And we Christians are waiting for Christ second coming.
all religions are waiting for their god.There is no way the muslems could wage a frontal war against the west.
What will happen is this.
Israel is going to make a covenant with death(the false prophet) but they will be stabbed in the back.
The f.prophet will occupy the new temple and claim it to him self.But to build the temple, the jews need him to destroy the dome; he(the f.prophet) alone dares.
Then the medes (iran) and his allies will stand up.(all muslems)
this will be the last war,and Christ has to come to stop it,or no flesh will be saved. and Christ will destroy whole babylon, all the kingdoms of man.wakeup.
Wakeup
I ask you again, with what do you back up your claim that Israel will make a covenant with the false prophet?
And, where do you get the idea from that there will be a third temple build?
Scriptures only.
Georg
Hi Georg,
This is the scripture Georg,
DANIEL 9:27 † And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
This will be the covenant made by the false prophet with Israel in the not to distant future.
God Bless
MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 18 2012,13:41) Hi Georg, This is the scripture Georg,
DANIEL 9:27 † And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
This will be the covenant made by the false prophet with Israel in the not to distant future.
God Bless
Marlin
m1Da 9:25 “Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.
Da 9:26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
Da 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.’”this is a covenant with MANY but we all know that the many means the disciples of Christ right
?Quote Da 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.’” this is a covenant with MANY but we all know that the many means the disciples of Christ right
?Hi T,
No T, this covenant is to the Jewish Nation. The Gentile time is Done.
70 weeks were determined upon THY People (JEW)God Bless
MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 18 2012,14:45) Quote Da 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.’” this is a covenant with MANY but we all know that the many means the disciples of Christ right
?Hi T,
No T, this covenant is to the Jewish Nation. The Gentile time is Done.
70 weeks were determined upon THY People (JEW)God Bless
Marlin
m1but you said it is with the false prophet
???Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 17 2012,13:51) Wakeup I ask you again, with what do you back up your claim that Israel will make a covenant with the false prophet?
And, where do you get the idea from that there will be a third temple build?
Scriptures only.
Georg
Pastry.You need to go to isiah28:15–18.22.
18. And your covenant with death shall be disannulled,and your agreement with hell shall not stand; WHEN THE OVERFLOWING SCOURGE SHALL PASS THROUGH,THEN YE SHALL BE TRODDEN DOWN BY IT.
wakeup.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 18 2012,06:41) Hi Georg, This is the scripture Georg,
DANIEL 9:27 † And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
This will be the covenant made by the false prophet with Israel in the not to distant future.
God Bless
Marlin
MarlinYou are going by what traditional Christianity is teaching.
The week in question is the 70th week; it followed Jesus baptism at the end of week #69.
Dan 9:27 And he (Jesus) shall confirm the covenant (the new covenant) with many (all over Judea) for one week (7 years): and in the midst of the week (3 1/2 years) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (old covenant, Law of Moses),…
Jesus died three and a half years into the 70th week, his death put an end to the old covenant.
Hbr 7:11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest (high priest, Jesus) should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Hbr 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Hbr 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament (covenant).
The Jews however continued with their sacrifices, until their temple was destroyed in 70 AD, because they believed not that Jesus was the Messiah.
The rest of that verse
…and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it (Christs sacrifice) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
is talking about the false prophet.
Georg
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