THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

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    Wakeup
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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,18:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,10:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,06:36)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,06:28)
    EDJ.

    Son of perdition with all lying wonders,and will be consumed by the brightness of the Lords coming.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up,

    Even him(son of the morning), whose coming is after the working of
    Satan(the Adversarial accuser) with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” (2 Thess 2:9-10)

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    At the moment satan is invisible to us all.
    Scripture says that the son of perdition will be revealed.
    So will we be able to see him then?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wake-up,

    “the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
    for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
    because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Cor 2:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Your answers are very cloudy at all times.
    Why cant you give a straight answer?

    You said:the son of p. is satan.
    question:
    1. Will we be able to see satan cast in the fire.
    For scripture says,he will be revealed,before the coming.

    2. You said: the son of predition is the son of the morning.(lucifer,satan); scripture please.

    3. You said: the false p. is not the son of perdition.
    scripture please.who is who?

    4. scripture says in rev.19:20.the beast and the false prophet will be cast in the fire.
    question: who is the beast and who is the false p?
    Be clear with your answers.

    5. You said: the son of perdition(satan) will be consumed with the brightness of christ; at his coming.
    Scripture said: satan will be in prison for a 1000yrs,then let loose.
    Question: who is right,your version; or the scriptures?
    please explain.

    6. You said: muslems will be cast in the fire:
    Question: Are all christians save? are all other religions saved from the fire?
    Be clear and specific.

    7. You said: the false p. is mohamad; and the fire that came down from heaven is the qur'an.

    Question: mohamad is dead;how can he be cast in the fire at the coming? and how can the qur'an be the fire from heaven,since the qur'an was inspired in a cave.

    Be clear in answering these questions.

    wakeup.

    #312293
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,19:39)
    EdJ.

    Your answers are very cloudy at all times.

    You said: the son of predition is the son of the morning.(lucifer,satan);  scripture please.

    Be clear in answering these questions.
    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    This can be clearly stated, however it may not be so easily understood by you.

    Son of the morning is Lucifer's description in Isaiah 14:12,
    and 'the son of Perdition' is found in 2Thess.2:3.

    2Thess.2:4 illustrates a motive matching Ezekiel 28 where a descriptive account of a fallen Angel is given.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312294
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,19:39)
    EdJ.

    You said:the son of p. is satan.
    question:
    1. Will we be able to see satan cast in the fire.
    For scripture says,he will be revealed,before the coming.

    2. You said: the son of predition is the son of the morning.(lucifer,satan);  scripture please.

    3. You said:  the false p. is not the son of perdition.
    scripture please.who is who?

    4.  scripture says in rev.19:20.the beast and the false prophet will be cast in the fire.
    question: who is the beast and who is the false p?
    Be clear with your answers.

    5. You said: the son of perdition(satan) will be consumed with the brightness of christ; at his coming.
    Scripture said: satan will be in prison for a 1000yrs,then let loose.
    Question: who is right,your version; or the scriptures?
    please explain.

    6. You said: muslems will be cast in the fire:
    Question: Are all christians save? are all other religions saved from the fire?
    Be clear and specific.

    7.  You said: the false p. is mohamad; and the fire that came down from heaven is the qur'an.

    (8) Question: mohamad is dead;how can he be cast in the fire at the coming? and how can the qur'an be the fire from heaven,since the qur'an was inspired in a cave.

    Be clear in answering these questions.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1. When you overcome the world – you(Isaiah 60:14) will be casting him in the fire. (Rev.20:9-10)

    2. Point 2 is given a separate post. (see previous post)

    3. You got that backwards, you need to show they are connected.
        – I would like to see this evidence, do you have any?

    4. The beast is the beast of Rev.13:1-3 and the false prophet is Muhammad.

    5. No, I didn't. You instead need to re-ask another question.

    6. No, I didn't. You instead need to re-ask another question.

    7. Correct.

    8. I will address this in more detail in my next post.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312295
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,19:39)
    EdJ.

    Question: mohamad is dead;(1)how can he be cast in the fire at the coming? (2)and how can the qur'an be the fire from heaven,since the qur'an was inspired in a cave.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) The beast of Rev.13:1-3 along with Muhammad are TOGETHER cast into the lake of fire.  

    2) You are leaving out  –  “in the sight of men”  –  out of the equation of your understanding.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312313
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,20:19)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,19:39)
    EdJ.

    Your answers are very cloudy at all times.

    You said: the son of predition is the son of the morning.(lucifer,satan);  scripture please.

    Be clear in answering these questions.
    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    This can be clearly stated, however it may not be so easily understood by you.

    Son of the morning is Lucifer's description in Isaiah 14:12,
    and 'the son of Perdition' is found in 2Thess.2:3.

    2Thess.2:4 illustrates a motive matching Ezekiel 28 where a descriptive account of a fallen Angel is given.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    When will you understand that satan from the beginning wanted to be like God.
    The son of perdition is the man satan is going to use; this is how he works.

    He used a serpent in the garden,then he used kings,like pharaoh,etc etc.
    —————————————————————–
    I still want you to answer my questions,7 of them.

    wakeup.

    #312321
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,00:04)
    EdJ.

    I still want you to answer my questions,7 of them.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I did, now you need to address my responses.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312328
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,20:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,19:39)
    EdJ.

    Question: mohamad is dead;(1)how can he be cast in the fire at the coming? (2)and how can the qur'an be the fire from heaven,since the qur'an was inspired in a cave.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) The beast of Rev.13:1-3 along with Muhammad are TOGETHER cast into the lake of fire.  

    2) You are leaving out  –  “in the sight of men”  –  out of the equation of your understanding.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Just for the record:

    EdJ's interpratation:

    The son of perdition is satan. Correct?
    The false prophet is mohamad. Correct?
    The fire from heaven is the qur'an. Correct?

    The beast in rev13:1 is? —————
    The little horn with eyes is?—————
    The red dragon is?———————-
    The woman(bab.the great) is?—————-
    The wounded beast in rev13:2 is?————-
    The 8th beast(come out of 7th) is?————-
    The 10 kings are?———————–
    The dreadful beast with 10 horns is?————–
    The beast that will come out of b.pit is?—————
    The king of fierce countenance(dan.8:23) is?—————
    Dan.8:25. He shall stand up against the prince of princes.is?——————————-

    wakeup.

    #312355
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup, I broke your questions up into the next three posts.

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,04:17)
    EdJ.

    Just for the record:

    1) The little horn with eyes is?—————

    2) The woman(bab.the great) is?—————-

    3) The 10 kings are?———————–

    4) The dreadful beast with 10 horns is?————–

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Is the spirit of antichrist, which is symbolized by the beast in Rev.13:1-3.
    2) Mystery Babylon, which is the systems of religion.
    3) I have told you this at least six times now  –  Read Psalm 83.
    4) Is the spirit of antichrist, which is symbolized ALSO by the beast in Rev.13:1-3.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312356
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,04:17)
    EdJ.

    Just for the record:

    5) The beast that will come out of b.pit is?—————

    6) The king of fierce countenance(dan.8:23) is?—————

    7) Dan.8:25. He shall stand up against the prince of princes.is?——————————-

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    5) Rev.9:11 refers to 'the big cheese' himself, Lucifer.
    6) I believe this too is the spirit of antichrist.
    7) Yes.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312358
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,04:17)
    EdJ.

    Just for the record:

    The beast in rev13:1 is? —————
    The red dragon is?———————-
    The wounded beast in rev13:2 is?————-
    The 8th beast(come out of 7th) is?————-
    The dreadful beast with 10 horns is?————–

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    All these questions are answered in this post, of which
    I have a thread dedicated to (this topic,) which is located here…   (Link)  

    Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”


    Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
    and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
    the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


                   In order to understand this dragon, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3…


    Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
    having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
    And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
    mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

                                         Head 1: Egypt  -one head -one horn -one crown

                                         Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown

    Head of gold:                Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4)

    Arms of silver:               Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown               …Bear (Daniel 7:5)

    Thighs of brass:            Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns                   …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)

    Feet of iron & clay:        Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown                             …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)    

                                         Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown

                                                  Then it suffered a deadly wound:


                                           Muhammad did not have a world empire,
                                           but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
                                           the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)

    Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
    All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)


    First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:

                       Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
                 and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
                 ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.


                                                              The quran prophecy

                                       The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
                                       the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)

    Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
    saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
                       


    Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:

                   Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
              full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”

           islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)


    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
    Reason for edit: I added more information.

    #312391
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,20:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 10 2012,19:39)
    EdJ.

    You said:the son of p. is satan.
    question:
    1. Will we be able to see satan cast in the fire.
    For scripture says,he will be revealed,before the coming.

    2. You said: the son of predition is the son of the morning.(lucifer,satan);  scripture please.

    3. You said:  the false p. is not the son of perdition.
    scripture please.who is who?

    4.  scripture says in rev.19:20.the beast and the false prophet will be cast in the fire.
    question: who is the beast and who is the false p?
    Be clear with your answers.

    5. You said: the son of perdition(satan) will be consumed with the brightness of christ; at his coming.
    Scripture said: satan will be in prison for a 1000yrs,then let loose.
    Question: who is right,your version; or the scriptures?
    please explain.

    6. You said: muslems will be cast in the fire:
    Question: Are all christians save? are all other religions saved from the fire?
    Be clear and specific.

    7.  You said: the false p. is mohamad; and the fire that came down from heaven is the qur'an.

    (8) Question: mohamad is dead;how can he be cast in the fire at the coming? and how can the qur'an be the fire from heaven,since the qur'an was inspired in a cave.

    Be clear in answering these questions.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1. When you overcome the world – you(Isaiah 60:14) will be casting him in the fire. (Rev.20:9-10)

    2. Point 2 is given a separate post. (see previous post)

    3. You got that backwards, you need to show they are connected.
        – I would like to see this evidence, do you have any?

    4. The beast is the beast of Rev.13:1-3 and the false prophet is Muhammad.

    5. No, I didn't. You instead need to re-ask another question.

    6. No, I didn't. You instead need to re-ask another question.

    7. Correct.

    8. I will address this in more detail in my next post.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    1. You said that the saints will cast satan in the fire.
    Scripture says, that GOD HIMSELF(not Jesus) will destroy satan;so you are wrong again.

    2.—-

    3. Here is proof re,the son of perdition.
    2thess2:9.HIS COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN,(so he is not satan himself), with all power and lying wonders.(he is a miracle man).(flesh and blood)with satans power.(satans puppet).

    Rev13:13. This beast coming out of the earth also does great miracles and power, to have every one in this world to have a number.(he is flesh and blood).(not invisible). (satans puppet).

    Rev.19:20. The false prophet that wrought miracles,and deceive them that received the mark: both will be cast ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE into the burning fire.(the false proph. is a singular,not many).(he is flesh and blood).(satans puppet).

    My conclusion: The son of perdition; the beast out of the earth; the false prophet; have the same in common,and is the same person.(satans puppet).

    And anyone trying to say that its all spiritual,is just hiding behind that word for safety,just incase,he is caught lying.

    wakeup.

    #312394
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,14:36)
    EDJ.

    1. You said that the saints will cast satan in the fire.
    Scripture says, that GOD HIMSELF(not Jesus) will destroy satan;so you are wrong again.

    2.—-

    3. Here is proof re,the son of perdition.
       2thess2:9.HIS COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN,(so he is not satan himself), with all power and lying wonders.(he is a miracle man).(flesh and blood)with satans power.(satans puppet).

    4. Rev13:13. This beast coming out of the earth also does great miracles and power, to have every one in this world to have a number.(he is flesh and blood).(not invisible). (satans puppet).

    5. Rev.19:20. The false prophet that wrought miracles,and deceive them that received the mark: both will be cast ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE into the burning fire.(the false proph. is a singular,not many).(he is flesh and blood).(satans puppet).

    6. My conclusion: The son of perdition; the beast out of the earth; the false prophet; have the same in common,and is the same person.(satans puppet).

    7. And anyone trying to say that its all spiritual,is just hiding behind that word for safety,just incase,he is caught lying.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) No I didn't.

    3) Under the title name 'i am'.

    4) Clearly this beast is the false prophet;
        I believe we agree on this point.

    5) Islam is certainly still alive on planet Earth.

    6) Great, let's here it! But where is your evidence for this?

    7) You are entitled to your opinion, but I would advise against name calling.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #312414
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2012,21:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,14:36)
    EDJ.

    1. You said that the saints will cast satan in the fire.
    Scripture says, that GOD HIMSELF(not Jesus) will destroy satan;so you are wrong again.

    2.—-

    3. Here is proof re,the son of perdition.
       2thess2:9.HIS COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN,(so he is not satan himself), with all power and lying wonders.(he is a miracle man).(flesh and blood)with satans power.(satans puppet).

    4. Rev13:13. This beast coming out of the earth also does great miracles and power, to have every one in this world to have a number.(he is flesh and blood).(not invisible). (satans puppet).

    5. Rev.19:20. The false prophet that wrought miracles,and deceive them that received the mark: both will be cast ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE into the burning fire.(the false proph. is a singular,not many).(he is flesh and blood).(satans puppet).

    6. My conclusion: The son of perdition; the beast out of the earth; the false prophet; have the same in common,and is the same person.(satans puppet).

    7. And anyone trying to say that its all spiritual,is just hiding behind that word for safety,just incase,he is caught lying.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) No I didn't.

    3) Under the title name 'i am'.

    4) Clearly this beast is the false prophet;
        I believe we agree on this point.

    5) Islam is certainly still alive on planet Earth.

    6) Great, let's here it! But where is your evidence for this?

    7) You are entitled to your opinion, but I would advise against name calling.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    ed

    Quote
    7) You are entitled to your opinion

    this is were all things are ending with you ,and many others ,
    so looking back in the topics it is the same ,wen it start and at the end just the same , Why ????

    no one seems to know ;even the truth can be stumbled by the foot in this way,

    #312418
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2012,14:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,14:36)
    EDJ.

    1. You said that the saints will cast satan in the fire.
    Scripture says, that GOD HIMSELF(not Jesus) will destroy satan;so you are wrong again.

    2.—-

    3. Here is proof re,the son of perdition.
       2thess2:9.HIS COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN,(so he is not satan himself), with all power and lying wonders.(he is a miracle man).(flesh and blood)with satans power.(satans puppet).

    4. Rev13:13. This beast coming out of the earth also does great miracles and power, to have every one in this world to have a number.(he is flesh and blood).(not invisible). (satans puppet).

    5. Rev.19:20. The false prophet that wrought miracles,and deceive them that received the mark: both will be cast ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE into the burning fire.(the false proph. is a singular,not many).(he is flesh and blood).(satans puppet).

    6. My conclusion: The son of perdition; the beast out of the earth; the false prophet; have the same in common,and is the same person.(satans puppet).

    7. And anyone trying to say that its all spiritual,is just hiding behind that word for safety,just incase,he is caught lying.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) No I didn't.

    3) Under the title name 'i am'.

    4) Clearly this beast is the false prophet;
        I believe we agree on this point.

    5) Islam is certainly still alive on planet Earth.

    6) Great, let's here it! But where is your evidence for this?

    7) You are entitled to your opinion, but I would advise against name calling.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi EdJ.

    Please dont take anything personally,I am against him that dished out these false doctrines.Go for truth only; look up your scriptures.

    1. You said anyone in Christ; will cast satan in the fire.

    3. You said; under the title of –I am–.Is he not satan
    in your book? And yet the scripture says; he will
    come by the working of satan.
    (can not ignore scripture).
    Where are the scriptures for this?

    4. We agree that the beast out of the earth is the false
    prophet,but not mohamad as you claim to be.
    The false prophet will be alive at the coming.
    He is the miracle worker with the powers OF
    SATAN.he is the puppet OF satan.not satan himself.
    caused ALL to receive his number.(rev19:20).

    5. Islam is not a single person with all the miracles.
    the false prophet is is a person living and breathing at
    the coming. Not an ideology cast in the fire,but a
    prophet,a man.

    6. I have given you all the scriptures and explained all
    the similarities of the son of perdition; the beast out
    of the earth; the false prophet; those miracles will be
    done by the same person.Those are one and the same
    person.(satans puppet).

    Rev.13:13.Great wonders,he make fire come down
    from heaven.

    2thess.2:9. Coming after the workings of satan with
    all power signs and lying wonders.

    Rev.19:20. The false prophet that wrought
    miracles,and deceived them that have received the
    mark.
    those miracles will be done by the same man.
    (satans puppet).

    wakeup.

    #312468
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2012,22:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2012,21:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,14:36)
    EDJ.

    1. You said that the saints will cast satan in the fire.
    Scripture says, that GOD HIMSELF(not Jesus) will destroy satan;so you are wrong again.

    2.—-

    3. Here is proof re,the son of perdition.
       2thess2:9.HIS COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN,(so he is not satan himself), with all power and lying wonders.(he is a miracle man).(flesh and blood)with satans power.(satans puppet).

    4. Rev13:13. This beast coming out of the earth also does great miracles and power, to have every one in this world to have a number.(he is flesh and blood).(not invisible). (satans puppet).

    5. Rev.19:20. The false prophet that wrought miracles,and deceive them that received the mark: both will be cast ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE into the burning fire.(the false proph. is a singular,not many).(he is flesh and blood).(satans puppet).

    6. My conclusion: The son of perdition; the beast out of the earth; the false prophet; have the same in common,and is the same person.(satans puppet).

    7. And anyone trying to say that its all spiritual,is just hiding behind that word for safety,just incase,he is caught lying.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) No I didn't.

    3) Under the title name 'i am'.

    4) Clearly this beast is the false prophet;
        I believe we agree on this point.

    5) Islam is certainly still alive on planet Earth.

    6) Great, let's here it! But where is your evidence for this?

    7) You are entitled to your opinion, but I would advise against name calling.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    ed

    Quote
    7) You are entitled to your opinion

    this is were all things are ending with you ,and many others ,
    so looking back in the topics it is the same ,wen it start and at the end just the same , Why ????

    no one seems to know ;even the truth can be stumbled by the foot in this way,


    Hi Wakeup,

    Do you not believe God's kingdom and God's word are spiritual?
    Understanding this is not an end but merely just the beginning.     …do you not agree?

    You are more than welcome to continue any point that you wish to make, my goal is not to stop the conversation! :)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312505
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,15:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2012,22:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2012,21:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2012,14:36)
    EDJ.

    1. You said that the saints will cast satan in the fire.
    Scripture says, that GOD HIMSELF(not Jesus) will destroy satan;so you are wrong again.

    2.—-

    3. Here is proof re,the son of perdition.
       2thess2:9.HIS COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN,(so he is not satan himself), with all power and lying wonders.(he is a miracle man).(flesh and blood)with satans power.(satans puppet).

    4. Rev13:13. This beast coming out of the earth also does great miracles and power, to have every one in this world to have a number.(he is flesh and blood).(not invisible). (satans puppet).

    5. Rev.19:20. The false prophet that wrought miracles,and deceive them that received the mark: both will be cast ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE into the burning fire.(the false proph. is a singular,not many).(he is flesh and blood).(satans puppet).

    6. My conclusion: The son of perdition; the beast out of the earth; the false prophet; have the same in common,and is the same person.(satans puppet).

    7. And anyone trying to say that its all spiritual,is just hiding behind that word for safety,just incase,he is caught lying.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) No I didn't.

    3) Under the title name 'i am'.

    4) Clearly this beast is the false prophet;
        I believe we agree on this point.

    5) Islam is certainly still alive on planet Earth.

    6) Great, let's here it! But where is your evidence for this?

    7) You are entitled to your opinion, but I would advise against name calling.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    ed

    Quote
    7) You are entitled to your opinion

    this is were all things are ending with you ,and many others ,
    so looking back in the topics it is the same ,wen it start and at the end just the same , Why ????

    no one seems to know ;even the truth can be stumbled by the foot in this way,


    Hi Wakeup,

    Do you not believe God's kingdom and God's word are spiritual?
    Understanding this is not an end but merely just the beginning.     …do you not agree?

    You are more than welcome to continue any point that you wish to make, my goal is not to stop the conversation! :)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    Yes Gods word is spiritual.
    But Abraham is real flesh,Moses is real flesh,the prophets are real flesh,Jesus was real flesh,the apostles were real flesh,the false prophet will also be real flesh.

    Only the flesh can preach to flesh,this is how God has planned.

    We can not have angels traveling around preaching.
    Why? Because all would believe,for the wrong reason.
    What wrong reason? because we would believe with our physical eyes,not with our spiritual eyes.

    Dont you think that after a while it will become the normal thing to mankind? Just like the forming of a baby in the belly,this is a great miracle,but it has become the norm. So what,they say,its just a baby,whats great about that.

    Beautiful fruits coming out of the dirt,and animal dung,is a great miracle. So what they say, dont trees suppose to give fruits? Whats the big deal? its nature.

    You know what people do when they see a miracle,like the appearing of Mary; they all go to see with their eyes
    only. Will that stop men from sinning? NO. Will that make us know God? NO.

    Why didnt Jesus come and preach in his spirit body?
    Everyone would believe then. NO, after a while it would become the norm,and it wont stop them from sinning.

    The bad in human must be uprooted from the inside.
    The pleasurable, bad habits,must be changed into good habits.

    wakeup.

    #312513
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 12 2012,21:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,15:50)

    Hi Wakeup,

    Do you not believe God's kingdom and God's word are spiritual?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj.

    Yes Gods word is spiritual.
    But Abraham is real flesh,Moses is real flesh,the prophets are real flesh,Jesus was real flesh,the apostles were real flesh,the false prophet will also be real flesh.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting people are God's kingdom?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312515
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,22:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 12 2012,21:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,15:50)

    Hi Wakeup,

    Do you not believe God's kingdom and God's word are spiritual?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj.

    Yes Gods word is spiritual.
    But Abraham is real flesh,Moses is real flesh,the prophets are real flesh,Jesus was real flesh,the apostles were real flesh,the false prophet will also be real flesh.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting people are God's kingdom?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    In the end Gods kingdom will consist of people with a glorified body,and all the angels.
    In the 1000yr reign people will be living in the kingdom.
    But no tears,no pain,no wars,they still die.

    wakeup.

    #312517
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 12 2012,22:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,22:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 12 2012,21:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,15:50)

    Hi Wakeup,

    Do you not believe God's kingdom and God's word are spiritual?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj.

    Yes Gods word is spiritual.
    But Abraham is real flesh,Moses is real flesh,the prophets are real flesh,Jesus was real flesh,the apostles were real flesh,the false prophet will also be real flesh.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting people are God's kingdom?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    In the end Gods kingdom will consist of people with a glorified body,and all the angels.
    In the 1000yr reign people will be living in the kingdom.
    But no tears,no pain,no wars,they still die.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Is your answer yes then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312521
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,22:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 12 2012,22:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,22:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 12 2012,21:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 12 2012,15:50)

    Hi Wakeup,

    Do you not believe God's kingdom and God's word are spiritual?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj.

    Yes Gods word is spiritual.
    But Abraham is real flesh,Moses is real flesh,the prophets are real flesh,Jesus was real flesh,the apostles were real flesh,the false prophet will also be real flesh.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting people are God's kingdom?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    In the end Gods kingdom will consist of people with a glorified body,and all the angels.
    In the 1000yr reign people will be living in the kingdom.
    But no tears,no pain,no wars,they still die.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Is your answer yes then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Still cant understand?

    YES.

    Are we going to discus prophesies or is this just a diversion?

    wakeup.

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