THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

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  • #311991
    Ed J
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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,00:57)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,21:02)
    Hi Pierre,

    It is a baseless charge;
    why do you agree with him?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ed

    wakeup has a point ,right ??? in his last post to you ?  :)


    What point is that?

    #311995
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,10:14)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,00:57)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,21:02)
    Hi Pierre,

    It is a baseless charge;
    why do you agree with him?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ed

    wakeup has a point ,right ??? in his last post to you ?  :)


    What point is that?


    EdJ.

    The point is that Jesus did not come back on the day of pantecost,infact he is at the moment with his father in heaven,waiting for his father to put down his enemies.

    wakeup.

    #311997
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,10:14)
    Hi Wakeup,

        “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
        and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

        John 16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,
        a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

        If you are able to attach these verses to your understanding,
        you will be able to understand that they were fulfilled on Pentecost.
        Is 54 days “A LITTLE WHILE” or 2000+ years?       …which is “A LITTLE WHILE”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org                                                                


    Hi Wake-up,

    Will you please address this?

    #312004
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,17:14)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,00:57)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,21:02)
    Hi Pierre,

    It is a baseless charge;
    why do you agree with him?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ed

    wakeup has a point ,right ??? in his last post to you ?  :)


    What point is that?


    ed

    this one;from wakeup

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    Sample: The lord has come already ,at pantecost spritually. The kingdom of God is on earth now,and satan is locked up now,he will be let lose for a season before Christ coming and then judged.

    #312010
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,12:26)
    ed

    this one;from wakeup

    Quote
    Sample: The lord has come already ,at pantecost spritually. The kingdom of God is on earth now,and satan is locked up now,he will be let lose for a season before Christ coming and then judged.


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    The lord has come already ,at pantecost spritually.

          Yes

    Quote
    The kingdom of God is on earth now

          Yes

    Quote
    and satan is locked up now

          YHVH locks him up till you are mature enough to lock him up yourself

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    he will be let lose for a season before Christ coming and then judged.

          Spin

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312017
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,19:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,12:26)
    ed

    this one;from wakeup

    Quote
    Sample: The lord has come already ,at pantecost spritually. The kingdom of God is on earth now,and satan is locked up now,he will be let lose for a season before Christ coming and then judged.


    Quote
    The lord has come already ,at pantecost spritually.

          Yes

    Quote
    The kingdom of God is on earth now

          Yes

    Quote
    and satan is locked up now

          YHVH locks him up till you are mature enough to lock him up yourself

    Quote
    he will be let lose for a season before Christ coming and then judged.

          Spin

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ed

    nice;just put two scriptures in front of your” YES” and quote,ok???

    #312025
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,12:52)

    Quote
    The lord has come already ,at pantecost spritually.

          Yes

    ed

    nice;just put two scriptures in front of your” YES” and quote,ok???


       “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
        and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

        John 16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,
        a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

        If you are able to attach these verses to your understanding,
        you will be able to understand that they were fulfilled on Pentecost.
        Is 54 days “A LITTLE WHILE” or 2000+ years?       …which is “A LITTLE WHILE”?

    #312026
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,12:52)

    Quote
    The kingdom of God is on earth now

          Yes

    ed

    nice;just put two scriptures in front of your” YES” and quote,ok???


    “if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.” (Matt 12:28)

    “being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:” (Acts 1:3)

    “For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the HolSpirit.” (Rom.14:17)

    #312028
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,20:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,12:52)

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    The lord has come already ,at pantecost spritually.

          Yes

    ed

    nice;just put two scriptures in front of your” YES” and quote,ok???


       “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
        and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

        John 16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,
        a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

        If you are able to attach these verses to your understanding,
        you will be able to understand that they were fulfilled on Pentecost.
        Is 54 days “A LITTLE WHILE” or 2000+ years?       …which is “A LITTLE WHILE”?


    ed

    Jn 16:5 “Now I am going to him who sent me, yet none of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’
    Jn 16:6 Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief.
    Jn 16:7 But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
    Jn 16:8 When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:
    Jn 16:9 in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me;
    Jn 16:10 in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer;
    Jn 16:11 and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
    Jn 16:12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.
    Jn 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
    Jn 16:14 He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you.
    Jn 16:15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.
    Jn 16:16 “In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me.”

    Jesus was talking about his dead and resurrection ,and the comforter he will send.

    #312030
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,20:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,12:52)

    Quote
    The kingdom of God is on earth now

          Yes

    ed

    nice;just put two scriptures in front of your” YES” and quote,ok???


    “if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.” (Matt 12:28)

    “being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:” (Acts 1:3)

    “For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the HolSpirit.” (Rom.14:17)


    ed

    those scriptures do not say what you want them to say,

    Christ talks about the devil being cast out of heaven ,but still on earth ,Ro 14:16 Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil.
    Ro 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,
    Ro 14:18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.
    Ro 14:19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification.

    #312034
    Ed J
    Participant

    “it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks”

    #312036
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote
       “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
        and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

        John 16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,
        a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

        If you are able to attach these verses to your understanding,
        you will be able to understand that they were fulfilled on Pentecost.
        Is 54 days “A LITTLE WHILE” or 2000+ years?       …which is “A LITTLE WHILE”?


    Hi Pierre,

    The Theomatic formula of [63+54=117] helps to conclusively prove “YHVH is GOD”=117.

    “YHVH”=63 as the “Spirit [of] God” (God Spirit=117) indwells in mankind starting after
    a 54-day period which began at the crucifixion and ended at Pentecost. On day four,
    Jesus is living again, “GOD the Father”=117 raised Him back to life (Gal.1:1).
    Pentecost in Greek means fifty; which started fifty days after the resurrection.
    Pentecost brings a close to the fifty-four day period that began at Jesus’ death.
    “Pentecost”=117 therefore began 54 days after the crucifixion.

    “YHVH”=63 plus the 54 days it took prior to “Pentecost”=117 starting,
    can therefore be mathematically (Theomatically) stated as (63+54=117).
    This formula lends strong support to the claim of English Gematria
    in general and stronger evidence that “YHVH is GOD”=117.

                       The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
                       God's Name יהוה  translates directly into English as YHVH=63
    Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
                       is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
                       [“The Latter Rain“=151 and former rain“=117] unto the earth.


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

                The Passover“=148
                      [74+74=148]  
    Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148

                   Pentecost“=117      
                  Former Rain=117
           (Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
      63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
    +54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
    117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

               
                 The Latter Rain=151
                Feast of Booths“=151
              (Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
               “Jesus is Lord”=151,
    because “HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
         “The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
             Click Here for more


    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps to corroborate this all important “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117! (Isaiah 43:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

    #312042
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,21:08)

    Quote
       “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
        and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)

        John 16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,
        a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

        If you are able to attach these verses to your understanding,
        you will be able to understand that they were fulfilled on Pentecost.
        Is 54 days “A LITTLE WHILE” or 2000+ years?       …which is “A LITTLE WHILE”?


    Hi Pierre,

    The Theomatic formula of [63+54=117] helps to conclusively prove “YHVH is GOD”=117.

    “YHVH”=63 as the “Spirit [of] God” (God Spirit=117) indwells in mankind starting after
    a 54-day period which began at the crucifixion and ended at Pentecost. On day four,
    Jesus is living again, “GOD the Father”=117 raised Him back to life (Gal.1:1).
    Pentecost in Greek means fifty; which started fifty days after the resurrection.
    Pentecost brings a close to the fifty-four day period that began at Jesus’ death.
    “Pentecost”=117 therefore began 54 days after the crucifixion.

    “YHVH”=63 plus the 54 days it took prior to “Pentecost”=117 starting,
    can therefore be mathematically (Theomatically) stated as (63+54=117).
    This formula lends strong support to the claim of English Gematria
    in general and stronger evidence that “YHVH is GOD”=117.

                       The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
                       God's Name יהוה  translates directly into English as YHVH=63
    Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
                       is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
                       [“The Latter Rain“=151 and former rain“=117] unto the earth.


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

                The Passover“=148
                      [74+74=148]  
    Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148

                   Pentecost“=117      
                  Former Rain=117
           (Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
      63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
    +54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
    117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

               
                 The Latter Rain=151
                Feast of Booths“=151
              (Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
               “Jesus is Lord”=151,
    because “HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
         “The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
             Click Here for more


    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps to corroborate this all important “Bible Truth”=117!
    “The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117! (Isaiah 43:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)


    ed

    you will be always right ,in your own mind,until Christ will return to finish all prophecies .then we will know ,who was really truthful ,until then ,you are free to dream your way to heaven .

    #312046
    Ed J
    Participant

    You can ask Jesus to explain it to you, when yo die; OK?

    #312050
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,22:12)
    You can ask Jesus to explain it to you, when yo die; OK?


    ed

    I died long ago ,

    #312051
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2012,15:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,22:12)
    You can ask Jesus to explain it to you, when yo die; OK?


    ed

    I died long ago ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Then how come you don't know?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #312056
    journey42
    Participant

    Your scriptures are fruitless, to fit into your belief.  

    The scriptures for us on the other hand is a witness you do not understand them, for you have not put the scriptures together, so they harmonise (telling the same story)

    The scriptures already show us that when Jesus rose from the dead that morning, he saw Mary, and said do not touch me, for I have not been to the father, then returned later that same day to meet with the apostles, all but thomas (John 20:24)

    JESUS SEES MARY IN THE MORNING
    John 20:17
      Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    JESUS MEETS WITH APPOSTLES BY EVENING
    John 20:19
      Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

    Christ died, then rose 3 1/2 days later,
    he appeared to Mary,
    for she is a witness that Christ is raised from the dead,
    she ran and told the others
    then Christ went up to the Father shortly after seeing Mary,
    and came back down that very same day,
    by evening,
    and showed himself to the apostles.
    that he is risen from the dead.

    Quote
    John 16:16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,
        a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.


    A little while is 3 1/2 days Ed.  Christ went up, came down, and stayed for 40 days with them, teaching them further, and appearing to whoever.
    Pentecost started after he went back up after the 40 days.

    Quote
    If you are able to attach these verses to your understanding,
        you will be able to understand that they were fulfilled on Pentecost.
        Is 54 days “A LITTLE WHILE” or 2000+ years?       …which is “A LITTLE WHILE”?

    The holy spirit came during Pentecost, not Christ.  
    Christ had already gone back to the Father,
    and he was already spirit after he rose,
    so he did not come in the flesh the second time, as there is no flesh when we are resurrected.
    did you not get the message?

    So with these scriptures already given to you, by God himself, through the Word, then confirmed and reminded by those who read his Word for doctrine, & reproof, YOU STILL REJECT.

    #312060
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Georgie,

                                   Pentecost“=117      
                                  Former Rain=117
                           (Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
                     63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
                  +54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
                   117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

    “God The Father”(117) raised Jesus from the dead. (Gal.1:1)
    Pentecost: in Greek means “Fifty”, fifty days later was “Pentecost”.
    4 days is a fractal truth of when they saw Jesus again (in the flesh).  (Link)
    Jesus was raised right at the end of the third day not in the middle of it as you suggest.
    JESUS RETURNED (in spirit form) 54 DAYS AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION!                 

          


                                               (The LORD JEHOVAH=151)         
                       The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
                       God's Name יהוה  translates directly into English as YHVH=63
    Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
                       is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
                       [“The Latter Rain“=151 and former rain“=117] unto the earth.


    (Witness)

    #312061
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 09 2012,16:12)

    So with these scriptures already given to you, by God himself, through the Word, then confirmed and reminded by those who read his Word for doctrine, & reproof, YOU STILL REJECT.


    No, what I reject is your 'spin'.

    I provide Scripture verses that doesn't fit into “YOUR” big picture
    and then ask you to make them fit into it – this is where your difficulty arises.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #312062
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,17:11)
    Hi Georgie,

                                   Pentecost“=117      
                                  Former Rain=117
                           (Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
                     63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
                  +54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
                   117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

    “God The Father”(117) raised Jesus from the dead. (Gal.1:1)
    Pentecost: in Greek means “Fifty”, fifty days later was “Pentecost”.
    4 days is a fractal truth of when they saw Jesus again (in the flesh).  (Link)
    Jesus was raised right at the end of the third day not in the middle of it as you suggest.
    JESUS RETURNED (in spirit form) 54 DAYS AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION!                 

          


                                               (The LORD JEHOVAH=151)         
                       The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
                       God's Name יהוה  translates directly into English as YHVH=63
    Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
                       is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
                       [“The Latter Rain“=151 and former rain“=117] unto the earth.


    (Witness)


    Georgie [4+50=54],

    4 days, seen in the flesh.
    54 days, seen in the spirit.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

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