THE MAN OF PERDITION; WHO IS HE?

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,10:58)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,10:11) it is the 'son of perdition' – not… 'MAN OF PERDITION' EDJ. The son of perdition suits your doctrine,for he is lucifer in your eyes; but that only makes God the CREATOR the father of the son. And God is not the father of perdition. A son is a person,a man,and his father is satan. wakeup.

The 'son of perdition' is what scripture says.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,11:12)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,10:58) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,10:11) it is the 'son of perdition' – not…      'MAN OF PERDITION' EDJ. The son of perdition suits your doctrine,for he is lucifer in your eyes; but that only makes God the CREATOR the father of the son. And God is not the father of perdition. A son is a person,a man,and his father is satan. wakeup. The 'son of perdition' is what scripture says.

Edj.

Thats true,and I am not denying that.thanks.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,11:17)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,11:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,10:58) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,10:11) it is the 'son of perdition' – not…      'MAN OF PERDITION' EDJ. The son of perdition suits your doctrine,for he is lucifer in your eyes; but that only makes God the CREATOR the father of the son. And God is not the father of perdition. A son is a person,a man,and his father is satan. wakeup. The 'son of perdition' is what scripture says. Edj. Thats true,and I am not denying that.thanks. wakeup.

Do you believe it is OK for you to change it to…   'THE MAN OF PERDITION'   ?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,13:12)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,11:17) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,11:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,10:58) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,10:11) it is the 'son of perdition' – not…      'MAN OF PERDITION' EDJ. The son of perdition suits your doctrine,for he is lucifer in your eyes; but that only makes God the CREATOR the father of the son. And God is not the father of perdition. A son is a person,a man,and his father is satan. wakeup. The 'son of perdition' is what scripture says. Edj. Thats true,and I am not denying that.thanks. wakeup. Do you believe it is OK for you to change it to…   'THE MAN OF PERDITION'   ?

Edj.

I should have said SON.YES
But that does not change the meaning by saying man.
Jesus is the SON OF GOD. he is also the MAN OF GOD.
No man has gone to heaven but he(man) that came down from heaven.

The SON OF SATAN can not be satan,as you say he is.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,23:27)

Edj. I should have said SON.YES But that does not change the meaning by saying man. Jesus is the SON OF GOD. he is also the MAN OF GOD. No man has gone to heaven but he(man) that came down from heaven. The SON OF SATAN can not be satan,as you say he is. wakeup.

Hi Waheup,

I never said the son of satan was satan – get you facts straight.
Seems your mind makes these changes automatically, huh?
You cannot absorb what I say because you believe
your mind is a fixed position; this is the proof.

'The man of sin' is incorrect
as I have pointed out.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,06:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,23:27) Edj. I should have said SON.YES But that does not change the meaning by saying man. Jesus is the SON OF GOD. he is also the MAN OF GOD. No man has gone to heaven but he(man) that came down from heaven. The SON OF SATAN can not be satan,as you say he is. wakeup. Hi Waheup, I never said the son of satan was satan – get you facts straight. Seems your mind makes these changes automatically, huh? You cannot absorb what I say because you believe your mind is a fixed position; this is the proof. 'The man of sin' is incorrect as I have pointed out. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Your own words: you said lucifer is the son of perdition.
Is lucifer not satan?

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Is satan not perdition himself?
How can satan be the son of satan?

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 30 2012,08:33)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,06:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2012,23:27) Edj. I should have said SON.YES But that does not change the meaning by saying man. Jesus is the SON OF GOD. he is also the MAN OF GOD. No man has gone to heaven but he(man) that came down from heaven. The SON OF SATAN can not be satan,as you say he is. wakeup. Hi Waheup, I never said the son of satan was satan – get you facts straight. Seems your mind makes these changes automatically, huh? You cannot absorb what I say because you believe your mind is a fixed position; this is the proof. 'The man of sin' is incorrect as I have pointed out. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Your own words: you said lucifer is the son of perdition. Is lucifer not satan? wakeup.

Yep

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 30 2012,08:41)

(1)Is satan not perdition himself? (2)How can satan be the son of satan?

Hi Wakeup,

1) Incorrect assumption.
2) He can't.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,09:25)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 30 2012,08:41) (1)Is satan not perdition himself? (2)How can satan be the son of satan? Hi Wakeup, 1) Incorrect assumption. 2) He can't. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

So you agree with that satan is not the son of satan.
So who is this son of perdition?

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 30 2012,17:20)

Edj. who is this son of perdition? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Lucifer  (Ezek 28:18-19)
“Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities,
by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee,
it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.”

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2012,14:01)

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 30 2012,17:20) Edj. who is this son of perdition? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Lucifer  (Ezek 28:18-19) “Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed,
God has a son, now Satan wants his own too.
He always tries to copy,
but for evil purposes.
He will do this abomination soon.
His son is already in the world,
but hasn't shown himself yet,
until God allows him,
when the Sealing is completed

[Ed J]

Hi Georgie,

Lucifer is the son of perdition, you disagree?     …if so, why?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2012,14:19)

Hi Georgie, Lucifer is the son of perdition, you disagree?     …if so, why? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Edj

The “Son of Perdition” was only mentioned twice in the bible.

JUDAS
John 17:12   While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, butthe son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. (Psalm 109:8, Acts 1:20)

THE FALSE PROPHET
2 Thessalonians 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4   Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
2 Thessalonians 2:9   Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders
2 Thessalonians 2:10   And with all decievableness of uprighteousness in them that perish because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Thesallonians 2:11   And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

The Lord (Jesus Christ) does not destroy Satan at his coming, but destroys the false prophet and the beast.(rev 19:20)
as Satan is bound for 1000 years. (rev 20:2)
So none of the two scriptures mentioned refer to Satan.
God is our Father,
Satan is their Father,
they are sons.

John 8:44   Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

[terraricca]

J42

in my view ,you using men's approach and so not understand this SON OF PERDITION, DID REALY CHRIST LIVED WITH SATAN 3.5 YEARS

THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENS , the son of God pick him for the purpose of the fulfillment of scriptures ,is this not tell you something

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 31 2012,22:18)

J42 in my view ,you using men's approach and so not understand this SON OF PERDITION, DID REALY CHRIST LIVED WITH SATAN 3.5 YEARS THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENS , the son of God pick him for the purpose of the fulfillment of scriptures ,is this not tell you something

Hi Pierre

I can only give the scriptures that speak of the Son of Perdition.
In John, Jesus was clearly speaking about the 12 apostles, how he lost only one (Judas) and yes, this is for the fulfillment of scriptures,

and in the 2 thesselonians, he is speaking of another that calls himself God, and he says this is a MAN of Sin.
Satan is a spirit,
so this can only mean one thing, that this man of sin is flesh.

What do you mean did Christ live with Satan for 3.5 years?
where did you get this from?
can you show me the scripture you are speaking of?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2012,14:19)

Hi Georgie, Lucifer is the son of perdition, you disagree?     …if so, why? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Please concentrate:

Judas was called the son of perdition: now who was his father? was it not satan?

In the last days the son of perdition is coming; Now who's son is he? is he not the son satan?
The son of perdition is a man(person),just like Judas.not lucifer: for he is the father,of his son.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,12:41)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2012,14:19) Hi Georgie, Lucifer is the son of perdition, you disagree?     …if so, why? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Please concentrate: Judas was called the son of perdition: now who was his father? was it not satan? In the last days the son of perdition is coming; Now who's son is he? is he not the son satan? The son of perdition is a man(person),just like Judas.not lucifer: for he is the father,of his son. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in
in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46)

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,12:41) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2012,14:19) Hi Georgie, Lucifer is the son of perdition, you disagree?     …if so, why? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Please concentrate: Judas was called the son of perdition: now who was his father? was it not satan? In the last days the son of perdition is coming; Now who's son is he? is he not the son satan? The son of perdition is a man(person),just like Judas.not lucifer: for he is the father,of his son. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

THe one that betrayed Jesus was calleth the son of perdition,he came out of the flock of 12.(12 chosen ones).

In the last days the son of perdition will come preaching peace to the world.
He will speak marvellous things,–AGAINST GOD.
He will disregard any god,for he himself is god,and will sit in the temple of God.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,17:59)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,16:46) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,12:41) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2012,14:19) Hi Georgie, Lucifer is the son of perdition, you disagree?     …if so, why? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Please concentrate: Judas was called the son of perdition: now who was his father? was it not satan? In the last days the son of perdition is coming; Now who's son is he? is he not the son satan? The son of perdition is a man(person),just like Judas.not lucifer: for he is the father,of his son. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Have you not considered that 'the son of perdition' in in 2Thess.2:3 is also 'the son of perdition' John 17:12?           …satan entered him. (John 13:27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. THe one that betrayed Jesus was calleth the son of perdition,he came out of the flock of 12.(12 chosen ones). In the last days the son of perdition will come preaching peace to the world. He will speak marvellous things,–AGAINST GOD. He will disregard any god,for he himself is god,and will sit in the temple of God. wakeup.

This is what Lucifer does under the title name 'i am'.  (Link)

“Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?
but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand
of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)

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