The Lamb of God

[kenrch]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 17 2007,12:03)

Thanks, brothers. But the question remains unanswered…..

Are you the same blood as your husband?

[Not3in1]

Quote (kenrch @ July 17 2007,12:06)

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 17 2007,12:03) Thanks, brothers. But the question remains unanswered….. Are you the same blood as your husband?

Yes, we are in-breeders here in WA State.

Sorry, I don't see the point you're trying to make.

We adopt after our own kind. Could God have adopted us prior to Jesus? IMHO, no. Why? Because God is Spirit.

First comes the natural and then the spiritual…… Why not the spiritual first?

[kenrch]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 17 2007,12:10)

Quote (kenrch @ July 17 2007,12:06) Quote (Not3in1 @ July 17 2007,12:03) Thanks, brothers. But the question remains unanswered….. Are you the same blood as your husband? Yes, we are in-breeders here in WA State. Sorry, I don't see the point you're trying to make. We adopt after our own kind.  Could God have adopted us prior to Jesus?  IMHO, no.  Why?  Because God is Spirit. First comes the natural and then the spiritual……  Why not the spiritual first?

Well your husband is not Mr. NotIN3 is he? You are now part of him though not according to the flesh but by spirit. The same as we who are the bride of Christ we are His wife not the same as our husband being the only begotten of the Father but belonging to the Father through marriage. Your father in law should be considered your father and you his daughter. Of course this is an analogy the same as adoption.

So through our husband Jesus we are children of God.

UMMMMMM Did that make sense?

[NickHassan]

Hi Not3,
Salvation is in the Son of God.

He is the way.
We abandoned our God in the loins of Adam.
We have no rights in this matter having made satan our father.
We can only hope to be wrapped in the robe of the righteousness of the Son.

Those who were No people have undeservedly become My people.

[Not3in1]

Quote (kenrch @ July 17 2007,12:28)

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 17 2007,12:10) Quote (kenrch @ July 17 2007,12:06) Quote (Not3in1 @ July 17 2007,12:03) Thanks, brothers. But the question remains unanswered….. Are you the same blood as your husband? Yes, we are in-breeders here in WA State. Sorry, I don't see the point you're trying to make. We adopt after our own kind.  Could God have adopted us prior to Jesus?  IMHO, no.  Why?  Because God is Spirit. First comes the natural and then the spiritual……  Why not the spiritual first? Well your husband is not Mr. NotIN3 is he?  You are now part of him though not according to the flesh but by spirit.  The same as we who are the bride of Christ we are His wife not the same as our husband being the only begotten of the Father but belonging to the Father through marriage.  Your father in law should be considered your father and you his daughter. Of course this is an analogy the same as adoption. So through our husband Jesus we are children of God. UMMMMMM Did that make sense?

No.

But love to you for trying.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2007,13:01)

Hi Not3, Salvation is in the Son of God. He is the way. We abandoned our God in the loins of Adam. We have no rights in this matter having made satan our father. We can only hope to be wrapped in the robe of the righteousness of the Son. Those who were No people have undeservedly become My people.

This sounds wonderful, and I believe it. It just doesn't answer the question that was asked. Thanks, though.

[NickHassan]

Hi not 3,
How can you understand if you do not know
the son was the firstborn,a son before he was a man.

[Not3in1]

A son before he was a man……

Hmmmm

Sounds a little too mystic for me!

[NickHassan]

Hi Not3,
Monogenes

[Not3in1]

Yes….monogenes.

UNIQUE Son. Different? Advantaged? Not the same as mere man? Just like us in every way?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
“Found in appearance” just as a man,
needing to be transformed by the Spirit of God
to fulfill his given roles and tasks of revealing God on earth.

[Not3in1]

Note the scripture does not say: Because Jesus was found to be an exact man, different in no way.

Why did he “appear” to be a man? Because of his gender, and because he was a human being. After all, his mother was Mary (a human). However, things are not always as they “appear” are they? Inside of Jesus were the “perfect, new genes” of God Almighty, his true and biological Father.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
So his perfect half set of new genes made him almost like Adam.
So?

[Not3in1]

Almost like Adam? Adam was created. Adam was also believed to be perfect or “very good” at least. After the fall, we no longer enjoyed that condition (thanks, Eve).

Now that Jesus has a perfect, new set of genes given by the Father – is he different from you? Yes, indeed he is!

He may have “appeared” as a human being – but he is not puny mankind like we are. Last time I checked, I did not have “perfect, new genes from God.”

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
He only has a half set of perfect genes.
Scripture says he is a man and you should too.
No more demigod status but someone we can follow.

[Not3in1]

“Only a half set of perfect genes………he is a man.”

OK, Nick.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Really.
You and I have two damaged sets but we get by.
He has one damaged set and a new set we assume.
A man.

[Not3in1]

Within your post you highlight the differences between us and Jesus. There is a difference.

Does that leave us with 2 types of “man” then?

Group 1 – 2 sets of damaged genes (all of mankind)
Group 2 – 1 damaged set and 1 perfect set of genes (Jesus ONLY)

Good grief

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Do not forget that men do not have exactly the same genes and women are different genetically to men and those with chromosomal abnormailities still are men worthy of salvation.
We should not concentrate on minute differences as if these affect God's view of men. Neither should our view of Christ be just according to lowly flesh.

Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Romans 9:5
Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
2 Corinthians 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
1 Peter 4:1
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

Flesh has no future, cannot inherit the kingdom, and even the flesh of the Son of God is no more as he has a heavenly body. We should raise our view from puny man.

[kenrch]

No one can deny that Jesus was special being born of God's Spirit. But He did not use that to His advantage. He humbled Himself and became as Adam was before the fall.

Phi 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

The word fasion:

G4976
σχῆμα
schēma
skhay'-mah
From the alternate of G2192; a figure (as a mode or circumstance), that is, (by implication) external condition: – fashion.

Jesus denied His Majesty and became as Adam being in the same circumstance. He was Tempted but did not sin as the first Adam did.

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

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